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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: TheTory

Thank you. "Worse" is a relative term, I think. Child abuse is child abuse - abused, brainwashed children grow up to be abusive, insane adults.




posted on May, 15 2016 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Dfairlite


They will simply kill you. You won't get a chance to change opinion.

I just can't wait for it to happen to people like you. You'll wish for the days of the christians.


Did you just say this? Really??

You can't wait for people to kill us? Yeah - sorry, but that's a hideous (and reportable) thing to say. I don't know anyone who would miss "Christians" like you.



Yeah, it's not the christian part of me that will enjoy it, it's the worldly part of me. That part of me loves justice over mercy and it will be sweet justice to know that those with your mindset got theirs. The christian part of me will beg for mercy for your eternal souls.

Newsflash: You're indoctrinating your children with any belief you hold. A society simply consists of a group of individuals who indoctrinate their children in similar ways. The tactic you are employing is very cunning and evil. You use the term "critical thinking" as cover for what you really expect will happen; that they'll be shamed out of their faith. Of course, people like you do the shaming and it hurts your cause when our children are properly taught to have faith despite the influences of people like you.

"Sorry - you were appointed to be the judge of me.....when?"

I am not sentencing you to anything simply seeing your actions through to their logical conclusion. Something you have failed to do.

"You don't know me at all."

Sure I do, you are a worshiper of big government. You are an anti-theist. You are an environmental psychopath. I've read many of your posts on here. In fact, I probably know your opinions better than I know the opinions of people I work with on a daily basis.

" If you want the child to have a healthy and sound mind, don't pump it full of lies."
So I should definitely not teach them anything cutting edge in the scientific fields. After all, most of that will be proven to be lies. I bet you would be ok with having my children read scientific journals. Yet, most of those articles are disproved within a decade. Yet you don't want me to teach them faith in something that cannot be proven wrong. It's funny how that works. And what harm does faith do? Oh that's right, it makes it harder for your types to push obscenities upon them. It's harder for people like you to get them to do things that are not good for them. And heaven forbid that!

"Have you managed to traumatize the little darling yet with your threats and lies about "going to hell"? Teaching them to hate atheists, Muslims, Jews, gays, and most importantly, themselves?"
Nope, they are simply taught to love God. It's interesting that you put gays in with religious affiliations. But I do hope they hate homosexuality. I also hope they hate alcoholism, drug abuse, infidelity, and a whole host of other impulses and bad habits. I will have done an excellent job if they hate those things.

"... not magical baloney and lies."
I love when your types use the word magical because it is the perfect word. It's the word people use when they don't understand something, it tells a lot about your mindset.

finally:
The reason you'll miss Christians like me is simple: I would never do any physical harm to you or anyone else, intentionally. Those who you're replacing people like me with, will. People like me rebut your ideas through words not violence. It's a pretty simple concept, do you follow?
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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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Can't we just agree that Christianity AND Islam suck?



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite

"Have you managed to traumatize the little darling yet with your threats and lies about "going to hell"? Teaching them to hate atheists, Muslims, Jews, gays, and most importantly, themselves?"
Nope, they are simply taught to love God. It's interesting that you put gays in with religious affiliations. But I do hope they hate homosexuality. I also hope they hate alcoholism, drug abuse, infidelity, and a whole host of other impulses and bad habits. I will have done an excellent job if they hate those things.

What sect of Christianity is this? I'm not an expert (or a Christian) but I have read the New Testament and really can't recall the part where Jesus wants us to instruct our children to hate.

Do you believe in a "day of reckoning"? What are you gonna say? "oh...that wasn't my Christian side, it was my worldly side, you know the one that looked forward to atheist people being beheaded sometimes"
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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

you know little of islam

Isis is as close to true islam as one can be. Their beliefs are exactly following the commands of the qur'an. The big difference is that all muslims believe that the quran is the actual real word of god. There have been many worldwide polls and surveys done in the very recent past that show that literally a billion muslims of those polled support sharia law. And not in theory but in practice and this includes stoning for adultery, killing gays death for apostasy there are hundreds of reasons why islam is bad. And yet no one ever gives reasons as to why it is good. DId you actually read the list of prohibitions and regulations? Only the same lame tired old sleight of hand trying to compare it to Christianity or other religions. I always see the most ignorant uniformed well meaning lazy liberal minded people try to defend such nonsense. It reminds me of those who try to defend minorities. I have friends who have never lived near blacks or in mixed neighborhoods yet they seem to be the most anti racist and astute at determining others inherent or invisible racism
There is also a category of person called a realist, It seems that most of the knee jerk reactions to the original post are so lacking of any serious thought or rationality. Everyone likes to say that Christians killed people, yes so but on a sincerely small scale and hundreds of years ago. Any cursory glance at current belief and behavior shows that this is not the case today. Christian used to kill people muslims Still DO. What many seem to miss is the simple fact that whatever culture is dominant controls the society. I personally do not want to live under a culture of ridiculous archaic superstitious religious wacko neanderthals. The idea that religion deserves respect is a funny thing because according to the fair and genius liberals this only applies to the almighty islam they have no problem criticizing and condemning all others. Yet they are willing to fight and defend this political ideology masquerading as a religion.
I challenge anyone to spend just a couple hours and learn what islam is actually about, its founding, its beliefs,
its practices, if you can defend such stupid rubbish after you actually know something then good for you become a deluded dumb# muslim.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Meh, I skipped to the end of your wall of text, wasn't really interested in being lectured by someone who has no concept of grace.

I'll respond to this part, though:

I would never do any physical harm to you or anyone else, intentionally. Those who you're replacing people like me with, will. People like me rebut your ideas through words not violence. It's a pretty simple concept, do you follow?



You would never do any physical harm to me - but you "can't wait" until the Islamists do it for you, and you expect to enjoy it.

I don't have any interest in "Christians like you" who impatiently await the execution of the godless at the hands of psycho killers....I surround myself with thinkers.

LOL!! You didn't "rebut" my ideas - you insulted me, told me a four-year-old was more competent in a subject that I have spent half a century familiar with, and pretty much said "I hope they kill you, so you'll miss me."

But you pretend to be a kind person...right?
I get the concept, trust me. You are simply reinforcing the increasingly common awareness that "Christians" are nasty and not very bright, and tend to mess up their kids. No thanks. I don't want or need your esteem or praise.


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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Christianity has been the #1 religion in the world for a while now. Let me ask you something, how has it benefited the world and how could Islam make it any worse?

We've had wars and genocide for thousands of years now regardless of what religion has been #1, I'm sure that trend will continue whether Islam becomes #1 or not.

Stop with the fear mongering.


Because of the same people WHO CALL THEMSELVES JEWS yet are not, Zionist Kazars from Turkey!!!!! All the wars of the 20th century have made the people who call themselves Jews yet are not a lot of money and weakened their enemies at the same time.

The Jewish Zionist acting bankers run America, Europe and did Russia. That is why they ran from Putin.

Christianity is no different from Islam in their eyes. They the so called ZIONIST JEWS are the Synagogue of Satan.

God said if you act like a Jew your not and anyone who believes in Jesus is. They did not listen and that is why they were cast to the wind. He took their nation away.

The real Christians had nothing to do with slaughtering anyone unless ordered to under false pretenses perpetrated by the Zionist Banks.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 12:38 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

You seem to forget that many governments are allied to a religion whether the people like it or not. Ordinary people don't get a choice and so sharia sly coming into my country in the biggest cities isn't funny, or a choice. You also don't take into account that islam brain washes men every time they attend the mosque having been schooled in the madrases from childhood.

Its when you speak to people from so-called islamic countries working over here, such as an Iranian friend who told me Islam was fine until it was forced onto them with the Ayotollah Khomeini that Iran changed and the religious police took to the streets.

Personally I like religion in the way it rules our lives, for me it should be a personal choice and certainly not oinked into politics or have its own police forces - I do understand real and what's trying to manifest, do you?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 05:12 AM
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I wonder if Vatican can exist without any Christians. It looks like they can. In fact, Vatican is the one who sanctioned Muslims to spread to Western Europe. Once all the Christians are gone, I guess there will be no reason for Catholics to exist either. Good riddance....



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Yeah, this morning I decided to read your "rebuttal" here.

What a classy diatribe! DRIPPING with malice, and you're not even trying to conceal it.
That certainly helps everything. Especially the truism that loads of Christians in America (but not all) are, well, jerks.
And yes, Humanists will prevail. We will assist your children in grasping the facts that you failed to pass on to them.

You are really pathetic. An awful but excellent example of exactly why "people like me" (an environmental psychopath? LOL!) have absolute disdain for the truly ugly, self-absorbed, misguided crusaders that you are.

You just keep proving my point. Do you realize that? Just how creepy, hypocritical, and hateful do you allow yourself to get? Do you hear yourself?

My kids are grown. I did a great job with them - they are educated, open-minded, responsible, kind, and productive people.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:43 AM
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Not me, I could care less about all of those silly middle eastern bullsh*t religions..........they are ALL middle eastern bullsh*t.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Dfairlite

Yeah, this morning I decided to read your "rebuttal" here.

What a classy diatribe! DRIPPING with malice, and you're not even trying to conceal it.
That certainly helps everything. Especially the truism that loads of Christians in America (but not all) are, well, jerks.
And yes, Humanists will prevail. We will assist your children in grasping the facts that you failed to pass on to them.

You are really pathetic. An awful but excellent example of exactly why "people like me" (an environmental psychopath? LOL!) have absolute disdain for the truly ugly, self-absorbed, misguided crusaders that you are.

You just keep proving my point. Do you realize that? Just how creepy, hypocritical, and hateful do you allow yourself to get? Do you hear yourself?

My kids are grown. I did a great job with them - they are educated, open-minded, responsible, kind, and productive people.





I'm glad it has been eating at you this long. It means you've been thinking about it. Do me a favor and rather than double down on saying that I'm hateful because I'll enjoy the justice of your actions and words, think about it from the perspective of "What if they're right".

I do have to laugh when you types get mad at such things. I mean, I'm hateful for possibly finding a little enjoyment in someone getting theirs, but you're not hateful when you call Christians hateful, hypocritical, creepy, dumb, ugly, self-absorbed, and bad parents. Good one. The best part is that you don't even see how full of hate you really are. I acknowledge that my enjoying your types logical end is not the better part of me, but you don't see a flaw in your attitude towards Christians. Absolutely Classic.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: Vasteel

originally posted by: Dfairlite

"Have you managed to traumatize the little darling yet with your threats and lies about "going to hell"? Teaching them to hate atheists, Muslims, Jews, gays, and most importantly, themselves?"
Nope, they are simply taught to love God. It's interesting that you put gays in with religious affiliations. But I do hope they hate homosexuality. I also hope they hate alcoholism, drug abuse, infidelity, and a whole host of other impulses and bad habits. I will have done an excellent job if they hate those things.

What sect of Christianity is this? I'm not an expert (or a Christian) but I have read the New Testament and really can't recall the part where Jesus wants us to instruct our children to hate.

Do you believe in a "day of reckoning"? What are you gonna say? "oh...that wasn't my Christian side, it was my worldly side, you know the one that looked forward to atheist people being beheaded sometimes"


Quite frankly, yes, that's exactly what will happen on the day of reckoning with everyone. No one is perfect that's where Christ's role is. Maybe you missed that part in your studies.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

You really ought to stop typing now.
You're just making things worse and worse for your fellow "Christians" (and for your own cause), humiliating yourself without even knowing it (like someone who has cognitive deficits would do), further setting a wretched example, and doing as much to turn people off of Christians as you possibly could.

What makes you any better than the asshat who walked into a church and shot a doctor in cold blood? Oh, or, the jihadist who shoves a homosexual off of a building (his dad told him to)? What makes you superior to those nutters? That you don't have a hunting knife on you? Or your own flag? (It's a rhetorical set of questions, provided solely for your pre-slumber contemplation.

Jesus H Christ - and you all wonder why we aren't on your side any more than we are on the side of your Muslim cousins.....you're all "God-fearing Abrahamic brethren Of The Book". No thanks. You know, actually the Catholics are looking better and better all the time.

Prehistoric cave men got along better than you lot.


But, if you insist, I suppose you can type out your rabid eruptions as they occur, and always come back later to see that you are just like that jerk who left the disabled Bernie-supporter lady on the side of the road.

Disgraceful. Utterly astounding that you don't realize how many times you've indicted yourself. Try pleading the fifth; right now, it is far and away your best bet going into damage control mode.)

Welcome to real life. It doesn't involve imaginary friends you invent to act as the Supreme Bully coming to save you.
Nor is your "worldly" self immune to consequences "so long as you profess Christ."


What a huge load of crap. Good riddance to modern Protestant Christianity and Radical Islam both -- how about you all just fight it out to the death.

I don't know why you people even come here.

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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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I'm hateful for possibly finding a little enjoyment in someone getting theirs, but you're not hateful when you call Christians hateful, hypocritical, creepy, dumb, ugly, self-absorbed, and bad parents. Good one. The best part is that you don't even see how full of hate you really are. I acknowledge that my enjoying your types logical end is not the better part of me, but you don't see a flaw in your attitude towards Christians. Absolutely Classic.

But see, I do see how you all twist it to be "persecution" when our documentation is nothing more than a presentation of facts.

To wit:


Many Christians do hate! (You've proved it here in this thread)
They do take delight in fantasizing about the untimely demise of others (again, you admitted it, and even described it the way you dream of it)
It is hypocritical to judge us, condemn us, and tell us you'll be happy to watch us die (That iscreepy after all!)
What you believe in tends to suggest that you aren't working with a full deck, yes...and what you are displaying here (i.e. wishing for our hastened torture and death so you can rub your hands together with glee, jumping up and down)
I mean, that is pretty ugly man.

I don't know man - would you send your kid to Jesus Camp (if it hadn't been shut down, that is)?


I mean, if you wanna get bent out of shape, blame those people.
I'm just telling it like it is



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Dfairlite

You really ought to stop typing now.
You're just making things worse and worse for your fellow "Christians" (and for your own cause), humiliating yourself without even knowing it (like someone who has cognitive deficits would do), further setting a wretched example, and doing as much to turn people off of Christians as you possibly could.

What makes you any better than the asshat who walked into a church and shot a doctor in cold blood? Oh, or, the jihadist who shoves a homosexual off of a building (his dad told him to)? What makes you superior to those nutters? That you don't have a hunting knife on you? Or your own flag? (It's a rhetorical set of questions, provided solely for your pre-slumber contemplation.

Jesus H Christ - and you all wonder why we aren't on your side any more than we are on the side of your Muslim cousins.....you're all "God-fearing Abrahamic brethren Of The Book". No thanks. You know, actually the Catholics are looking better and better all the time.

Prehistoric cave men got along better than you lot.


But, if you insist, I suppose you can type out your rabid eruptions as they occur, and always come back later to see that you are just like that jerk who left the disabled Bernie-supporter lady on the side of the road.

Disgraceful. Utterly astounding that you don't realize how many times you've indicted yourself. Try pleading the fifth; right now, it is far and away your best bet going into damage control mode.)

Welcome to real life. It doesn't involve imaginary friends you invent to act as the Supreme Bully coming to save you.
Nor is your "worldly" self immune to consequences "so long as you profess Christ."


What a huge load of crap. Good riddance to modern Protestant Christianity and Radical Islam both -- how about you all just fight it out to the death.

I don't know why you people even come here.


This is absolutely fantastic. Keep it going. Absolutely no rebuttal from you, just more venom and an attempt to strike a victory pose.

"You're just making things worse and worse for your fellow "Christians" (and for your own cause), humiliating yourself without even knowing it (like someone who has cognitive deficits would do), further setting a wretched example, and doing as much to turn people off of Christians as you possibly could."

I should stop trying because you think I'm stupid. Thanks, but no thanks.

"What makes you any better than the asshat who walked into a church and shot a doctor in cold blood? Oh, or, the jihadist who shoves a homosexual off of a building (his dad told him to)? What makes you superior to those nutters?"

The fact that you can't see the difference between someone who disagrees with you and someone who literally kills or mames others is a testament to your depravity.

"and you all wonder why we aren't on your side any more than we are on the side of your Muslim cousins.....you're all "God-fearing Abrahamic brethren Of The Book". No thanks. You know, actually the Catholics are looking better and better all the time."

I like catholics, protestants, and mormons all the same. Sure, we have our disagreements, but far be it for me to get caught up in such frivolous issues when there are people like you out there.

"Disgraceful. Utterly astounding that you don't realize how many times you've indicted yourself."

Aside from the guilty unchristian pleasure I may get from you meeting justice, where else have I indicted myself? You've continually alluded that I have but have yet to provide an example.

"Welcome to real life. It doesn't involve imaginary friends you invent to act as the Supreme Bully coming to save you. "
And this is why I say a four year old has a better understanding of Christianity than you do. These statements don't help your cause.

"Nor is your "worldly" self immune to consequences "so long as you profess Christ."
Now I'm not sure what you mean here. You could be hinting towards judgement day, which means you're absolutely insane since you don't believe in such. Or you're saying I am bound by the laws of this world, to which I can only respond: Ok...?

"Good riddance to modern Protestant Christianity and Radical Islam both -- how about you all just fight it out to the death."

I'm not protestant and like I said before, I like the protestants just fine. I like the Catholics just fine, I like evangelicals just fine, and I like the Mormons just fine. Not sure why we would be fighting each other, much less to the death.
But this brings us full circle. Remember how evil I was for saying I would get some sort of satisfaction out of you meeting your logical end at the hands of the Muslims you're replacing Christians with? You have now just professed the exact same sentiment. I can't believe how evil you are!

"I don't know why you people even come here."
Simple, I don't mind having my thoughts challenged and I have no problem defending my thoughts and ideas.

Why do you come here?
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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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Why do I come here?

LOL!!! To discuss the state of society in general.
And to point out things like this:



erm, and this:



It's my chosen profession, has always been on my mind. A natural-born Social Worker.

Thanks for asking!


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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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I'm glad it has been eating at you this long. It means you've been thinking about it.

No....

lololol...

it means that I was bored and decided to go back and read more carefullly, look at some of your post history, realize that you are this way with everyone, that you are a dad of kids, etc. That's all readily available. You can look up my stats, too, you know - read back.

I think about it every time I see a kid being traumatized with brain-washing, humiliation, threats of hell....yep! You caught me. I think about it every day, truth be told. That's why I'm here. But I did NOT read your whole post until this morning.

You were wondering what the term "self-absorbed" had to do with the constructive feedback I'm attempting to provide? Your whole post there was perfect. Examples? The evidence for your guilt is not something I need to redistribute - copies are readily available above.....

kinda sad, really.
But mostly it's scary.


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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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... I like evangelicals just fine... I can't believe how evil you are!


...which explains a lot. Start to dehumanize that opponent of a hippie now, you're pretty close. Ugly as it is.


...
The truth about religion is that there is no truth. You think there is only one, singular definition of what should count as religion? Think again. The sacred is, potentially, anywhere and everywhere. Contrary to years past, one dominant religious authority (Christianity, and more specifically Protestantism) no longer holds all the cards and makes all the rules.

American Religion: Less is More

I'm sorry for your loss, have a nice crusade!




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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But mostly it's scary.


Fundamentalism always is. Have a great time nevertheless!





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