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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Are you actually saying you think with approximately 7% of the population of the EU (excluding Turkey) being Muslim that within 10 years Europe will convert to be similar to the worst of Islamic nations? The 7% are so extraordinarily powerful that they will be able to overturn the laws of the land, and the culture of the "other 93%?"

Honestly, if that's even a remotely plausible outcome, then non-Muslim Europeans might as well capitulate now. You speak as if Muslims in Europe are all extremists with super-powers. Either that, or you're just brimming over with irrational fear and cowardice. I can find a speck of rational thinking in the OP.

It only takes a small group that are willing to use any means to control a large number of people




posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Are you actually saying you think with approximately 7% of the population of the EU (excluding Turkey) being Muslim that within 10 years Europe will convert to be similar to the worst of Islamic nations? The 7% are so extraordinarily powerful that they will be able to overturn the laws of the land, and the culture of the "other 93%?"

Honestly, if that's even a remotely plausible outcome, then non-Muslim Europeans might as well capitulate now. You speak as if Muslims in Europe are all extremists with super-powers. Either that, or you're just brimming over with irrational fear and cowardice. I can find a speck of rational thinking in the OP.


You know ..... at first I was not going to reply to your post due to the ignorance of it but after seeing others giving a star I thought maybe they should hear the other side.

So I have a couple of questions for you about your watered down stats:

If a muslim has German citizenship is this person counted as a foreigner ? NO The muslim would be a German citizen.

Are people counted in European by race, color or religion? NO

EDIT LATER: Do you understand what I am telling you? European citizens are NOT part of this 7% you have so brillantly devised and many European citizens are muslims........

When was the last European wide census showing someone's religious status? As an American living in Germany for over 30 years I am still waiting for that census.

How many EXACTLY HOW MANY immigrants have came to Europe in the last 18 months? NOT even the governments can give a clear answer.......but YOU can.





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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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How many EXACTLY HOW MANY immigrants have came to Europe in the last 18 months?


Why don't you tell us? You seem to be pretty confident in the premise of this thread, so I assume you have numbers to back up your claims?



NOT even the governments can give a clear answer.......but YOU can.


Didn't you just predict what's going to happen in 10 years? So where are these numbers backing up your claims? Or are you just assuming? You know what they say about assuming, it makes an ASS out of U and ME.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:24 AM
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so you are saying that a bunch of westerners who, for various reasons rejected christianity (by the way, I didn't reject it, it rejected me) are going to allow a bunch of islamists to force their religion down their throats after those islamists acted the way you are at least claiming them as acting in your op?? christianity can't get the women to dress like decent god fearing women, but islam is going to convince them to wear burkas?
I doubt if your people are leaving the christian church to run off and join an even more authoritarian outdated religion. they are leaving it because they can no longer accept the mild restrictions it places on them. it they can't accept those mild restrictions, what in heaven's name makes you think they are going to accept the harsher restrictions of islam.

I don't know about europe but I can say here in america, the best they could hope for is all out blood filling the streets war before sharia law could be enforced on most of the citizens. maybe instead of being on boards like ATS trying to convince people to join your cult by invoking fear in the other cult, you should be instead focusing your message toward your own office holders and writing them letters and letting them know the problems these new immigrants are causing in your own neighborhoods. maybe making yourself available to improve things instead of fostering more fear and hatred between the sides.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Kneel WHITEY and bow down and accept YOUR new mandatory religion

So then this thread about Christianity is actually about Islam which is actually about race? You realize that 7 of the top 10 Christian countries aren't white?




posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: SargonThrall

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Kneel WHITEY and bow down and accept YOUR new mandatory religion

So then this thread about Christianity is actually about Islam which is actually about race? You realize that 7 of the top 10 Christian countries aren't white?



You do not understand how sarcasm works, huh?

Relax .....WHITEY......




posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Were you being sarcastic about Islam being mandatory? If not, that's a strange way of using sarcasm. Usually the entire sentence is meant to be sarcastic, not half of it.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Are you actually saying you think with approximately 7% of the population of the EU (excluding Turkey) being Muslim that within 10 years Europe will convert to be similar to the worst of Islamic nations? The 7% are so extraordinarily powerful that they will be able to overturn the laws of the land, and the culture of the "other 93%?"

Honestly, if that's even a remotely plausible outcome, then non-Muslim Europeans might as well capitulate now. You speak as if Muslims in Europe are all extremists with super-powers. Either that, or you're just brimming over with irrational fear and cowardice. I can find a speck of rational thinking in the OP.


You know ..... at first I was not going to reply to your post due to the ignorance of it but after seeing others giving a star I thought maybe they should hear the other side.

So I have a couple of questions for you about your watered down stats:

If a muslim has German citizenship is this person counted as a foreigner ? NO The muslim would be a German citizen.

Are people counted in European by race, color or religion? NO

EDIT LATER: Do you understand what I am telling you? European citizens are NOT part of this 7% you have so brillantly devised and many European citizens are muslims........

When was the last European wide census showing someone's religious status? As an American living in Germany for over 30 years I am still waiting for that census.

How many EXACTLY HOW MANY immigrants have came to Europe in the last 18 months? NOT even the governments can give a clear answer.......but YOU can.






I'm a bit confused as to why you consider my post "ignorant", seeing as I'm using actual facts, and based on those facts, wondering how this Sharia/Fundamentalist Conquest of Europe will come to pass. I'm also not sure where you got the idea that I thought Muslim = "foreigner" and that German citizen Muslims would not be counted in those numbers. They're not considered separate from citizens of the European nations - the statistics point to the percentages of the population in Europe (citizen or not) which is Muslim.

That said, I estimated 7% because the most recent statistics (2010) put it at around 5-6%. Maybe it's more than 7%. Most research predicts the Muslim population of Europe hitting upwards of 8% by 2030. Search Results

Personally, I think that's a conservative estimate, but I doubt it is off by a very significant factor. I also doubt a high percentage of them are radicals who hope for Sharia Law to conquer Europe. What percentage do you believe it is?

Regardless of what that number actually is, it's clear you believe there are enough of them who wish to install Sharia Law to overthrow the governments and defeat the militaries of Europe - or will be within 10 years. I agree it would be a terrible thing to have happen, I just don't see it as even a remotely realistic possibility in the next 50 years, let alone the within the next decade.

I guess I'm looking for a better understanding of how you believe such a small minority, deeply opposed by the majority, would completely un-do the law of the land and defeat the militaries of Europe (and probably the US and Russia) in order to bring it about (or do you think that they won't have to?) I really don't see a rational explanation - it just reads as fear and irrationality, but maybe you have reasons which make sense, which I'm either not picking up on, or you haven't written here.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DeathSlayerChristianity has been around for a very long time and has committed atrocities in its name as well, so I'd day they're all the same, they just switch back and forth between killing people.

And you have seen this yourself?

What atrocity have you seen RECENTLY?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DeathSlayerChristianity has been around for a very long time and has committed atrocities in its name as well, so I'd day they're all the same, they just switch back and forth between killing people.

And you have seen this yourself?

What atrocity have you seen RECENTLY?


6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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The churches were empty 10 years ago as well. At least until Christmas, Chistianity has other problems than 'competing' religions on the belief-basar.

The biggest one is probably science.



German Polizei walking patrol. They had a patrol car pull up with blinking lights, put her into the car and drove her home.


They don't walk patrol here, they usually drive around. And they wouldn't just bring her home without picking up the Personalien (name, address, etc) of everyone involved.
Pics or it didn't happen at all, you wanna say she somehow lost her phone that day? Yeah, thought so.

You're a funny guy, I'll give you that. But you've lost me on page one of this thread, just saying...



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

The drug cartels in Mexico commit atrocities every day, they wear crosses around their necks and have tattoos of Jesus all over their bodies. Just because you ignore their presence doesn't mean they don't exist.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

yeah they are about as Christian as you are.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer


Do I fear the Islamic faith? No, I do not..... actually I can't wait for it to fully ignite and take over the world's religions.

And why would you desire such a thing?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

And ISIS is about as Muslim as you are.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

All ISIS are Muslim, not all Muslim are ISIS. However all Muslims want worldwide Caliphate united under the 12th Imam.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: windword
again they are as Christian as your neighbors dog.

BTW, I wouldn't trust anything that comes from Southern Poverty Law Center as they are extremely left and biased as our current president.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Where is your source that states "all" Muslims want a worldwide caliphate? Even if that is true then how is that any different than all Christians wanting the world to be ruled by Jesus? That's the whole point of the Second Coming right? For Jesus to come back and reclaim the world.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You're a fan of the "no true Scottsman" fallacy aren't you? Seems as though that is your only argument against Christians committing genocide.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

it is taught in their Mosques, in the Hadiths and in their Quran. Daily prayer for the success of this is done five times a day.

and remember, HYPOCRISY DOES NOT INVALIDATE TRUTH!

You are about a enlightened as a black out light bulb when it comes to truth.
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