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As above, so below. From Nimrod to Jesus

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:41 PM
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Successions of wise sages have taught the axiom as above, so below. As without so within. But does any body know its origin?

Keep in mind I am just a nobody with a lot of time on my hands.

Nimrod said, "let us make a " name"(HaShem) for ourselves.

But HaShem can mean "the name, God, or heaven"

So he said "let us make a heaven for ourselves"

As above, so below

Nimrod is also known under the biblical pseudonym Amraphel. Separate Amraph and scramble it and you get Rampha. In Hebrew vowels didn't exist at the time so that gives us Rempha the god also known as Saturn.

The star of Rempha(n) is the hexagram. One triangle up one down(as above, so below) all 60 degree angles making 666 in a few ways. Saturn is the 6th planet and has 61 known moons. 616 is the Latin Nero beast number. And the atomic structure of the elusive carbon 7. Carbon 12 is 666. Maybe they will find 5 more moons but if not 616 still equals 13, an ominous number.

Saturn also has a hexagonal storm at one pole. The hexagon is the center of the star of Rempha/Saturn. As below, so above?

Nimrod is Osiris who must have taught Thoth/Hermes the axiom because Hermes is the most informative on the meaning of the axiom and it is considered Hermetic or Egyptian in origin.


The last great sage to teach it was Jesus:

"On earth, as it is in heaven. The kingdom of God is within...."


Hope I got everything right.
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: TefarimCanin

Here is some more for You:
gnosticwarrior.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

The movie "As Above, So Below" was a "Stinker"...



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: JimNasium
a reply to: TefarimCanin

Here is some more for You:
gnosticwarrior.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

The movie "As Above, So Below" was a "Stinker"...


It was a terrible movie. Thanks for the links.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 02:25 AM
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a reply to: TefarimCanin

Hey, I thought it was ok. But then again, I am a big fan of found footage movies. So this saying has merits in the real world, in the form of contradictions?? I need more elaboration.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 02:50 AM
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You can also get the numerology 33:6 Master Number from the As Above So Below shapes being placed on top of one another.

Kronus is also involved in this especially when the hexagon star gate appears at the North Pole of Saturn (haSatan).



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:55 AM
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a reply to: Rapha

I know Saturn is associated with Satan today, but the Old Testament Ha Satan is not Saturn/Nimrod/Baal who the Israelites worshipped under the name YHVH until the Persians introduced them to Dualistic Monotheism, of which a small number of Israelites adopted while the rest curse his wife Asherah and decided he was the only God and Most High.

YHVH and Satan are a team, but Osiris became Nimrod then Baal then YHVH etc.

Baal Shem Tov is one of the most prominent Jewish organizations today so if Nimrod/Saturn/Baal are Satan then they named a lot of people in the Bible based on his name and an organization and made the word mean prince or Lord. When you worship Lord YHVH you are worshipping Baal.

When you say Shalom you are saying the name of a Canaanite Venus goddess Shalim altering one vowel.

Amen or Amun is another god you honor at the end of prayers.

Semiramis is Shem + Miriam+ (priest and priestess) +IS

Molech or Melech is the god of infant sacrifice. Why do they use that for King? Why Baal for Lord?

So YHVH and Saturn are the same.

El Elyon is the Most High God, father of all gods and goddesses.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: AmericanRealist

It just means heaven is above and below, God is within and without.

Read the Kybalion at sacred-texts.com



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 06:16 AM
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originally posted by: TefarimCanin
I know Saturn is associated with Satan today, but the Old Testament Ha Satan is not Saturn/Nimrod/Baal who the Israelites worshipped under the name YHVH until the Persians introduced them to Dualistic Monotheism, of which a small number of Israelites adopted while the rest curse his wife Asherah and decided he was the only God and Most High.

YHVH and Satan are a team, but Osiris became Nimrod then Baal then YHVH etc.

So if this is the new understanding of haSatan, what is your take on the old understanding ?

Is it connected with Iblis who leads the Shaitan class djinn as well as the other 4 jinn types, that existed long before Adam & Eve came into existence ?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: TefarimCanin

You have this:


Which interestingly could be symbolic of a few things.
1. How all the religions of the world if you just read a little about them, have very similar God stories and themes, so really it shows that there is a common past and a common future of all religions.

2. Interestingly what I see communicated:
OM - The infinite
Swastika - Creates
Star of Chiun (Saturn) - As above (OM) so below (on Earth)
Ankh the Egyptian Cross - Gods with us. (Egyptian Gods and God-men carried it) At the heart of it all we all have the divine in us, as this is in the center of the expression.
Ouroboros Serpent - Connects each aspect together, taking power and knowledge out from the infinite, using the power and knowledge to create as it passes through the Swastika, encircles and bridges between the above and the created. Also as it makes a full circle and eats it's tail, it is the continual cyclical change of this eternal process. Also serpents do this in a symbolic way shedding their skin for new.

3. Completely coincidental, this symbol that was put together by the Theosophical Society, I might assume around when it was founded in the 1880's, has another possible way to look at it. Through the lense of actual world history that unfolded decades after it's inception and the symbology used not only by nations and cultures that didn't exist yet, but also that the order they would appear in history would match the Theosophy symbol, as well as an actual connection in certain aspects of the meanings of each symbol not only in idea, but also the historical connection of the people that caused these symbols to be taken, going back to Theosophy, or Freemasonry, Catholic church, Jewish Mysticism, Pagan religions, and to Egypt. All tying in together, just as the Theosophy symbol would suggest.

OM - The infinite speaking through the ascended masters to spiritual humans like Helena Blavatsky and others began a new age of spiritual awakening to raise humanity to a new evolution, or possibly rediscovering who we are.
Aleister Crowley was born the year Blavatsky founded Theosophy in 1875. He was liked Blavatsky and the Theosophical understanding and gave her a high grade in his system of Thelema, but wanted to take the beliefs and put them to action.

Swastika: In the early 1900's Ariosophy blended Theosophy with Aryan race ideology which helped the rise of Germanic paganism, and one of it's important symbols was the Swastika. Armanism called for a return to ancient Pagan religions and to break away from rigid Christian beliefs. From the other side in Germany there was the Thule society, which has it's roots in a blend of Theosophy with the secret society of the Knights of the Teutonic Order, which is also a Catholic religious order. The Thule societies symbol is a Swastika and the Teutonic Order's symbol is the Iron Cross. Interestingly the freemason's also stake claim to the Teutonic Knights, closely related to the Knights Templar. The Thule society's membership was comprised of nearly all of the leaders of what would eventually become the Nazi party. They funded and created the Nazi party. One of the founders was an occult medium named Dietrich Eckart, who wrote poems months before he met Adolf Hitler, of a coming Great One, Nameless One, a German Messiah. When Eckart met Hitler, he was convinced Hitler was this German Messiah. He then introduced Hitler to influential circles at the same time Eckart introduced Hitler to Theosophy and Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine. Eventually what became of the Nazi worldview was something of twisting together of Christ mixed with Norse gods and mystic new age ideas, mixed with a view of humanity being able to attain a higher status of supermen, mixed with anti-Semitism. Eckart also put Hitler in contact with "Great Old ones" (like Blavatksy's Masters or World teacher). By the time Hitler was Fuhrer, he was against there being any secret societies in Germany or occultists. Although, it could be argued after reading all the previous the reason was because the Nazi party WAS the secret society open and dominating all of society. The Nazi party WAS occultism, now it was not "hidden" (occult), it was flown on a flag everywhere and Germany's messiah was Hitler. Theosophy + Old Pagan = Armanism. Old Pagan + Secret Catholicism/Freemason + Theosophy = Thule. The sum = Nazism.

CONT...



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 06:22 AM
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Star of Chiun (Saturn) - The Swastika did indeed cause massive change to the world because of WWII. The Jewish nation state of Israel came back into existence after about 1900 years of non-existence, on May 14th 1948. So it would be another interesting coincidence that in the order of symbology on the symbol of Theosophy thought of and put together about 60 years before these events, that it would match perfectly going from Swastika to Star of Chiun, but not just in some kind of mystic principal, but in huge world changes that would shape history. It is interesting that the Star of Chiun, is mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible in the Jewish holy scriptures more than once. However, it is NEVER referred to as the Star of David as it is today. It is historically the Star of Chiun, Remphan, Saturn, Cronus. These gods are the same thing, minor differences may exist in the lore of different cultures. Interestingly, you can find talisman's with this six pointed, six triangle, six sided star on one side, and on the other side is a five pointed star or pentacle / pentagram. The USA uses the inside geometry of the Pentagram in the Pentagon. The design of Washington DC in front of the Whitehouse is laid out in the shape of a Pentagram. Freemasonry, to whom a very large portion of the founding fathers and the powerful men of all generations of American history belonged, use a Pentagram as a sacred symbol. All throughout the Old Testament the Hebrews are reprimanded and judged for amulets, alters, idols and magic practices devoted to these pagan gods. Sometimes there were child sacrifices to the God Moloch (also named along side Remphan/Saturn) by placing infants onto red hot bronze hands of the statue idol. The Bohemian grove event near San Francisco in the woods, where the most powerful in industry and politics go every year, begin the event with a ritualistic mock Pagan sacrifice to the god Moloch. The Freemason's attribute the origin of their "craft" as they call it, to either the building of King Solomon's temple (which was during a time that paganism thrived in Isreal), or even back to the building of the Egyptian pyramids. A brief look at Freemasonry and many of their ritual and symbolism is indeed a mixture of Jewish mysticism coupled with Pagan & Egyptian mystery religion.

CONT...



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 06:48 AM
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Ankh the Egyptian Cross - At this point in time, I cannot see the sign as being anything yet taken by any nation or a political organization or any major religion. However, since there is no other symbol that is deeper within the Serpent that surrounds the Theosophical symbol, I would assume that this is the culmination of the movement through the whole of it. Because Egypt might be the oldest of the religions and possibly at the root of the gods and god-men and stories of them, I would guess that it is also where it will end. It might be why US Dollar has an Eye of Ra or Horus in a capstone, that is not attached to the Pyramid (human beings), but rather floating from above. It is also giving light down onto the pyramid that we build up to it. So it's this divine light that illuminates all of mankind, from the lowest of the masses on the bottom of the Pyramid, as well as illuminating the fewer at the top who receive more of it's light being closer to the divine in knowledge than the bottom. It is those at the top that have a clear view and that secrets are revealed to, rather than those at the bottom. However, it takes all the stones laid together in order for mankind to be close to and receive the divine light. Also interestingly, that the Egyptian God Horus is can also be related to Saturn. Horus is the brother AND the son of Isis. Isis is Ishtar and can also be related to the Virgin Mary in a way, that Horus might be beside Isis, and he also is her son. Mary Queen of Heaven, Jesus the Son of God, but also the son of a woman, Mary. Certain beliefs exist as well, that Jesus and the name Lucifer are speaking of the same person, or that they are two aspects of the divine. Light and dark. Duality of god. It is also interesting that the symbol most related to Jesus is the cross which represents eternal life because of his sacrifice, also that the Egyptian Gods a depicted carrying this symbol, which represents eternal life, and the Pharoahs also which were considered partially divine, are depicted carrying this symbol too. The ankh represents a also female and male in unity. So because most ancient societies looked the stars for their Gods including beliefs of the Egyptians, that the culmination of all world religions will come full circle, back from the stars, and will represent this ancient of belief, that has moved through all cultures in all of mankind's recorded history, to bring the fullness of these entire symbology of the Theosophical thought, the fullness of the light of this god that will unify mankind and promise to bring peace and massive evolutionary leap for mankind into the future. Possibly to become "star men" themselves, gods if you will. I think there are hints of this coming right now with all of the Egyptian symbolism found front and center in all of our most watched media events.

CONT....



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 07:19 AM
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This is why there is so much similarity between world religions throughout history.....With the exception of one.

The story contained in the Old Testament, tells of a God that is the only God. The Almighty. Slow to anger and quick to forgive. A real God above all other beings that are imposters. A God that loves the World so much that he would show us how to live, by actually living on Earth with us. That the books that record the history of His people the Jews, and how he would fulfill a promise to all mankind through Abraham, that he would bring all of mankind through the power of his grace and the work he fulfilled of the Law, by showing people the way how to live and to worship, and the last once and for all sacrifice of atonement he made Himself. It would have been blaspheme to say he could forgive men's sins, if he was not the Son of God. It's also the reason the Apostle Thomas who doubted he resurrected himself by his own power, after putting his finger into his pierced side, and into the hole of his hand, said, "My Lord, and my God". It's by his stripes we are healed. It's by his atonement, that all people can been be grafted into the Olive Tree, and are well, Jewish by the covenant of his blood. All who call on the name of Jesus the Messiah will be saved. This is a story of a God that really sounds nothing like any of the other stories that sound the same. Jesus is not beside Mary in heaven. Son of God Jesus is at the right hand of God Yahweh the Father. The holy spirit will be given to anyone who submits their self rule over to the loving rule and perfect way of Jesus Christ. Unfortunately men have made idols of things in his name. Like war in his name. Worldly success in his name. Putting any church first before Jesus. Arguing legalistic doctrines in his name. Gossiping and being arrogant in his name. Pretending in his name. Hating others, in his name. Even now, falling away from him, in his name.

I do believe in all of the connections of the mystery religions that do have a shell of morality, but in the end, they all do tie together in a historical thread. It is the desire to exalt ourselves as being divine, which the real "secret doctrine" that Theosophy ties all together, is that it is held together rightly by the serpent. In a not too distant future from now, the star man from space, that knows all science beyond our knowledge, and that has power far greater than any human's on his own, will come and present himself as the unifying God that has been spoken of and worshipped throughout history in different forms and names, but the same one. He will have be in union in an anti-trinity of false prophet, false religious messiah, and false God from space.

Just sharing my personal belief. Everyone is entitled to their own views, and I find it fascinating to listen anyone's take on any of my views.

"The Stone that the builder refused, shall be the head capstone"
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: SelectStart
This is why there is so much similarity between world religions throughout history.....With the exception of one.

The story contained in the Old Testament, tells of a God that is the only God. The Almighty. Slow to anger and quick to forgive. A real God above all other beings that are imposters. A God that loves the World so much that he would show us how to live, by actually living on Earth with us. That the books that record the history of His people the Jews, and how he would fulfill a promise to all mankind through Abraham, that he would bring all of mankind through the power of his grace and the work he fulfilled of the Law, by showing people the way how to live and to worship, and the last once and for all sacrifice of atonement he made Himself. It would have been blaspheme to say he could forgive men's sins, if he was not the Son of God. It's also the reason the Apostle Thomas who doubted he resurrected himself by his own power, after putting his finger into his pierced side, and into the hole of his hand, said, "My Lord, and my God". It's by his stripes we are healed. It's by his atonement, that all people can been be grafted into the Olive Tree, and are well, Jewish by the covenant of his blood. All who call on the name of Jesus the Messiah will be saved. This is a story of a God that really sounds nothing like any of the other stories that sound the same. Jesus is not beside Mary in heaven. Son of God Jesus is at the right hand of God Yahweh the Father. The holy spirit will be given to anyone who submits their self rule over to the loving rule and perfect way of Jesus Christ. Unfortunately men have made idols of things in his name. Like war in his name. Worldly success in his name. Putting any church first before Jesus. Arguing legalistic doctrines in his name. Gossiping and being arrogant in his name. Pretending in his name. Hating others, in his name. Even now, falling away from him, in his name.

I do believe in all of the connections of the mystery religions that do have a shell of morality, but in the end, they all do tie together in a historical thread. It is the desire to exalt ourselves as being divine, which the real "secret doctrine" that Theosophy ties all together, is that it is held together rightly by the serpent. In a not too distant future from now, the star man from space, that knows all science beyond our knowledge, and that has power far greater than any human's on his own, will come and present himself as the unifying God that has been spoken of and worshipped throughout history in different forms and names, but the same one. He will have be in union in an anti-trinity of false prophet, false religious messiah, and false God from space.

Just sharing my personal belief. Everyone is entitled to their own views, and I find it fascinating to listen anyone's take on any of my views.

"The Stone that the builder refused, shall be the head capstone"



I hate to burst your bubble, but the Israelites were not monotheistic, did not worship a different god than the Canaanites, Babylonians, or Egyptians.

They just hated everyone and combined all the myths and traditions of antiquity and told them as Israel's history with the " great men" like Abraham the sister pimp huckster patriarch being their founding father. Abraham is named after Brahma and his sister/wife Sarah is named after Sarasvati, Brahma's sister/wife.

El Elyon is a Canaanite God and Father of all the gods including Baal/YHVH. YHVH is not The Most High God. Elohim is not God's name it is the descriptive term for the gods plural. El or Eloah is the singular. Many of the Canaanite gods are in the Bible and have Israelites named after them. Jeroboam married JezeBel, daughter of Ethbaal, king of Sidonia.

Baal-Hanan was an official in the court of David.

"YHVH gives the tribe of Asher, (male version of goddess named Asherah) AlamMELECH, (Melech is the god of infant sacrifice), Beth-DAGON(father of Baal), towns named for other gods and never does he ask they change the name.

Issachar, Jacobs son, has Shachar, the Canaanite morning star in it.

The warrior Gideon tore down Baal's alter and YHVH changed his name to Jerubbaal, who names his son AbiMELECH.

Saul, the first king of Israel, named his son IshBAAL, who ruled 11 tribes for two years.

Judah followed David and had a town with the Ark of God in it called Baale-Judah.

King Saul's grandson was named Merib-baal

Israelites were not 12 tribes of monotheist before, during or after Babylon. They were never monotheistic but claimed to worship the on true God outwardly. They have and had many secrets and secret traditions that go way beyond monotheism.

YHWH is no more special than or different from Baal. He controls both good and evil through his emissaries.

Why would you take the name of your gods arch enemy (Baal) and use it to mean Lord Prince or Master?

And his other "enemy" Melech and make it mean king as in Melchizedek Melech Zedek?

That is like a Christian calling his governor Satan. Admiringly.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: TefarimCanin
I know Saturn is associated with Satan today, but the Old Testament Ha Satan is not Saturn/Nimrod/Baal who the Israelites worshipped under the name YHVH until the Persians introduced them to Dualistic Monotheism, of which a small number of Israelites adopted while the rest curse his wife Asherah and decided he was the only God and Most High.

YHVH and Satan are a team, but Osiris became Nimrod then Baal then YHVH etc.

So if this is the new understanding of haSatan, what is your take on the old understanding ?

Is it connected with Iblis who leads the Shaitan class djinn as well as the other 4 jinn types, that existed long before Adam & Eve came into existence ?


Satan comes from Shet-hen, official title of Set/Typhon.

The Egyptians considered Shem to be Set(h)/Typhon as the one who ordered Nimrod/Osiris murder.

Israelites actually consider the word Shem in HaShem as a word for god or heaven. They say it means The Name, but I have my suspicions that Shem is considered divine and not human fully.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:52 AM
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Iblis is just the Muslims Lucifer and they just copied the Catholics but added the djinn as their own unique feature. They are like mischievous pagan elementals.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: TefarimCanin
Satan comes from Shet-hen, official title of Set/Typhon.

The Egyptians considered Shem to be Set(h)/Typhon as the one who ordered Nimrod/Osiris murder.

Israelites actually consider the word Shem in HaShem as a word for god or heaven. They say it means The Name, but I have my suspicions that Shem is considered divine and not human fully.

Iblis is just the Muslims Lucifer and they just copied the Catholics but added the djinn as their own unique feature. They are like mischievous pagan elementals.

So i wonder what the joint leader of the fallen watchers - Shemyhaza actually means when its supposed to say Name-of-Power

Would you say that they are all 4 elemental types or just air and fire ?

If Lucifer commands the fire elementals or Shaitan jinn; who (if different) commands the air elementals ?

Can you verify that air elementals can be seen as blue electrical streaks in black smoke ?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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Power of heaven? Or it can mean reputation (Shem) and they swore a pact with him as leader.

What does the jaza mean in Semyjaza?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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I can't verify that and only think of Lucifer in mythological terms because the day star is Shachar in Hebrew and a minor Canaanite goddess. Lucifer isn't a real Jewish character and has been reduced to day star in most bibles because of the erroneous interpretation as Satan before his "fall" that is pure myth in Christianity.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: TefarimCanin
Power of heaven? Or it can mean reputation (Shem) and they swore a pact with him as leader.

What does the jaza mean in Semyjaza?

I can't verify that and only think of Lucifer in mythological terms because the day star is Shachar in Hebrew and a minor Canaanite goddess. Lucifer isn't a real Jewish character and has been reduced to day star in most bibles because of the erroneous interpretation as Satan before his "fall" that is pure myth in Christianity.


Could be pact swearing.
Well according to Hebrew: Shem + y + haza equals Name of Power. However, this watcher signs with the signature Shymhz as back in the days of Enoch, vowels (A-E-I-O-U) didn't exist.

But according to him, shem + ya'ah + aza = "of the Name of power".

Do you think the truth will ever be disclosed as to their true identities and histories ?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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thanks for the heads up ive been thinking of watching because of the name,
my interpretation is that everything you will find in the universe u will find on earth and everything you search for without you will find by looking within.
everything is made up of atoms so it may well be true eh,
am just putting stuff out there, its great living in a world where anything is possible!




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