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Sanders' campaign manager: 'we're going to have a contested convention'

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 09:55 PM
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"The Democratic Party must decide if they want the candidate with the momentum who is best positioned to beat (Donald) Trump or if they are willing to roll the dice and court disaster simply to protect the status quo for the political and financial establishment of this country," Weaver wrote.

He cited a "scary" Quinnipiac University poll of swing states Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania showing tight races between Clinton and presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump -- races that Sanders performed slightly better in, though within the poll's margin of error.

"Because we must do everything we can to defeat Trump in November, our mission is to win as many pledged delegates as we can between now and June 14," Weaver wrote. "Then we're going to have a contested convention."
Sanders campaign: Dems 'court disaster' in Clinton


Having Sanders' campaign manager make this kind of bold prediction is noteworthy in my opinion. It helps to explain why Biden has an 8% probability of winning the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination according to the corresponding market at PredictIt:

Who will win the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination?

That's American "democracy" for you. According to the market linked to above, we've got the following:

Clinton 90% chance of winning the nomination

Sanders 11% chance of winning the nomination

Biden 8% chance of winning the nomination

So, all of Sanders' work and all of the delegates that he's won only give him a 3% better chance of winning the nomination than a man who hasn't even had a campaign?

That is not how a real democracy functions.

The Huffington Post has an interesting take on this topic:

Yes, Bernie Sanders Will Win the Contested Democratic Convention
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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The DNC convention will not be "contested". It will be all Bernie's, if the timeline of Hillary's indictment rumors are true.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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It is certainly not Democracy and that is because "our" government is not a Democracy of the people and for the people. This sad fact is just now becoming so blatantly obvious that even the average American citizen is questioning the system because in essence what we have is taxation without representation and THAT right there my friend and fellow Sanders supporter is EXACTLY why the United States of America was even formed in the first place! Holy Flaming Hand grenades , if the Founding Fathers could see this Disgrace they would VOMIT TO DEATH
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Flag and a star!!!



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
The DNC convention will not be "contested". It will be all Bernie's, if the timeline of Hillary's indictment rumors are true.

I can only imagine the furor if Clinton is tapped as the nominee ... and then winds up behind bars. Bernie won't even see the table scraps.

I've called the election for Trump in a landslide. But, if the above occurs ... it'll look like the election took place in North Korea.

Muhwahahahaha



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Democrats will really have to decide if they want establishment or well. . . . establishment.

Both Hillary and Bernie have spent the last 4 decades in DC.

The democrats apparently want establishment.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:33 PM
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This sad fact is just now becoming so blatantly obvious that even the average American citizen is questioning the system
a reply to: 191stMIDET

Exactly! This crazy election has exposed how our party system rigs and chooses our candidates. It ignores and blatantly tries to circumvent choosing an alternative candidate that fits their party expectations. Our election system has made a mockery of our supposed "free and fair democratic system." The idea that the American people choose and elect their president, is nothing but a fallacy. It was clearly designed to use smoke and mirrors to make the public think we had free and fair elections.

I hope the people of this country, start uniting and demand an end to the delegate system and the implementation of Campaign Finance Reform. It's become crystal clear, the U.S. is not "for and by the people."



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

Star!!!👍



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Your definition of establishment is very different from my definition of establishment. Clinton is establishment because she is bought and paid for by corporations, banks, and the wealthy. She is a part of the 1%. Sanders is not bought and paid for. He is one of the poorest members of senate which is quite a feat because most members find their net worth increases greatly while being a public servant.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:56 PM
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Could someone explain to me why Sanders idea's are so bad ?

Free College Education - seems pretty bloody good and a good step for the future
Women's Choices - leaving abortion up to women and the doctors.
Enforce background checks in gun purchases
Stop foreign wars and military adventures
Make the wealthy pay more tax

forgive me for being a foreigner, but whats wrong with that ?
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: Swills

Bernie Sanders' Troubling History of Supporting US Military Violence Abroad

Bernie Sanders Voting Record Antithetical To His Purported Anti-War Stance

A Socialist in the Senate?

If you look at the above in an unbiased way, the words "establishment supporter" may come to mind.


originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Could someone explain to me why Sanders idea's are so bad ?

Free College Education - seems pretty bloody good and a good step for the future
Women's Choices - leaving abortion up to women and the doctors.
Enforce background checks in gun purchases
Stop foreign wars and military adventures
Make the wealthy pay more tax

forgive me for being a foreigner, but whats wrong with that ?


It's a part of American culture to be anti-communist and anti-socialist. It's so ingrained, it amazes many that Sanders is doing so well. He mainly is because generation Y seems to have a different culture than previous generations...


www.youtube.com...
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: DBCowboy

Your definition of establishment is very different from my definition of establishment. He is one of the poorest members of senate

And you see this as a good trait to have in the leader of the US? I am glad we DO have elections so differing minds can choose a different option.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

We have two different definitions of establishment. I don't fault a politician for a long record of service because that's stupid. Instead, I judge them on their character and integrity.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

A good trait that he isn't bought and paid for by the elite? It isn't a good trait that he doesn't sell out the people he represents to make himself rich?

Btw, of all the senators he's the most popular and there isn't a close second.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: Swills

You don't survive in DC for 4 decades without being establishment.

Calling Bernie anti-establishment is funny, but hardly realistic.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Could someone explain to me why Sanders idea's are so bad ?

Free College Education - seems pretty bloody good and a good step for the future
Women's Choices - leaving abortion up to women and the doctors.
Enforce background checks in gun purchases
Stop foreign wars and military adventures
Make the wealthy pay more tax

forgive me for being a foreigner, but whats wrong with that ?


Who's going to pay for this "free" college you speak of?
Abortion will not be going away anytime soon with a republican in the WH.
I'm sorry, but when I purchase guns, I DO have a background check on me already. How many more would you like me to go through?
I have no problem defunding foreign aid to other countries. Bring our troops home, build that wall, and let the world do what they will without our military there to back them up.
And finally, tax the rich more? Uh huh. Let's see how that works out. Dollars moved to offshore accounts, corporations, if they haven't already, will be moving headquarters to tax havens around the world.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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Bernie does poll better against Trump in the General Election, but Kasic also polled better against Hillary than any other candidate.

Are we willing to subvert the process' the parties created to win the race, or are we going to be honest and let it stand as it is?

Perhaps we should work to change the process and not subvert.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: carewemust
The DNC convention will not be "contested". It will be all Bernie's, if the timeline of Hillary's indictment rumors are true.

I can only imagine the furor if Clinton is tapped as the nominee ... and then winds up behind bars. Bernie won't even see the table scraps.

I've called the election for Trump in a landslide. But, if the above occurs ... it'll look like the election took place in North Korea.

Muhwahahahaha


If Sanders wins it will be 100% because the Republicans pushed for an investigation into Hillary.

If Sanders makes it to the general he will be the next President.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: rollanotherone

Btw, of all the senators he's the most popular and there isn't a close second.

Awesome. Not only is he broke, but he never seems to say anything to upset the herd. Talk about knee deep in the establishment. The delusion.

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Are we seriously going with this narrative? He is the most popular with his own people? And how is our government working out for We The People anyways? Last I checked, it wasn't.
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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Sanders voted with Democrats 93% of the time.

It's fun to paint him as an outsider, but just use 7% of the paint.




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