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"...not connected to the ongoing FBI criminal probe of Clinton's server."

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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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I would please ask that any and all conversation in this thread center solely around speculation (this is Skunk Works, after all) about just what in the heck Guccufer is referencing here:


"I can't tell [you] now. I can't tell because I want to talk to the FBI. It is a matter of national security. Yeah," he said. Pressed by Fox News, Lazar seemed to indicate the data was not connected to the ongoing FBI criminal probe of Clinton's server.


I ask that you leave any and all references to classified material being stored incorrectly at the door, there are a gazillion other threads in which that is being beat to death and beyond.

I am curious as to what the great minds of ATS think could be meant by Lazar. A bit more:


As for what was discussed on that plane, Lazar said he told a State Department representative on the plane about "hot" data, some of which was hidden in Google drives, and other data that was too sensitive and deleted. The hacker, who offered no proof for his claims, said cryptically that he could not say more.


Fox News

Some thing related to president Obama perhaps?

Some incontrovertible dirt on the Bushes?

Wouldn't that be somethng?

All the Bushes, big O and Hillary going down in one year?

That might almost make up for all the legendary musicians we've lost this year.

We'd never get so lucky.
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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 07:53 PM
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Hi Jaded.

Your link is not working.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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I think that it may have some very serious implications in regards to the State departments cozy relationship with Daesh and Al Nusra. Going from Syria to Libya and right on back to Iraq.

NATO's secret army has been being built behind the lies of benevolence since the false flag that initiated it. This is what I think Guccifer could be discussing, we have already seen how the Clinton foundation has received mass donations countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and we see the ramifications of these illegal weapon deals in Syria and Yemen.

I truly hope her getting taken down, takes down the entire network of warmongering psychopaths that have run this countries military for decades.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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All I know is that it concerns the 2 Gigabytes of data he says he has squirreled away.
I'm sure he wants t trade for a deal.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Russia piggy backed on Guccifers hacking into Clintons private email and itching to release what they have.

The US extradicted Guccifer for hacking, nonspecific to just Clinton.

Whatever he has, Russia has as well...both physical and digital info.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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Most of the email messages probably seemed quite innocuous to someone not involved in various issues. People write about things in their own internal language if you will, often using first names and what to the casual observer would mean quite different things when viewed by an entity that understood what was being discussed and the implications.

Heck, 75%+ of my work email would mean nothing at all to most that read them however would be devastating to my company if it was made available to competitors.

Just my $0.02 worth.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:15 PM
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Thank you one and all for your participation! Lots of great notions, keep them coming.

A few more thoughts.

If Lazar was smart, and he certainly seems to have at least a modicum of neural activity occurring with some degree of efficiency based upon the results attributed to his work, he will have dead drops set up so that in the event of his untimely shuffling off of the mortal coil, particular bits of highly sensitive yet incredibly damaging information will find its way into the public sphere.

Any such theoretical caches of information could include information not already divulged thus increasing the value of the life of one whom would hold access to such.

The aforementioned possible stash would be in a location not digitally accessible and potentially be printed hard copy.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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I don't know anything about the hacker world.

So, is it possible that he could have contacted Snowden, or the other fellow, and will maybe have his "hidden" information leaked slowly?
I hate when they do that.

I would venture a guess that he has something hard on the US government, and maybe is just working a deal to give it back, without any charges?

I always wonder, why when somebody has hacked some "Hot or Sensitive" information, that they just don't flood the world with it?
Could the general public not handle it?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: chiefsmom
I don't know anything about the hacker world.

So, is it possible that he could have contacted Snowden, or the other fellow, and will maybe have his "hidden" information leaked slowly?
I hate when they do that.

I would venture a guess that he has something hard on the US government, and maybe is just working a deal to give it back, without any charges?

I always wonder, why when somebody has hacked some "Hot or Sensitive" information, that they just don't flood the world with it?
Could the general public not handle it?


Depending on how hot the info is might get you and your friends and family all killed.



posted on May, 14 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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What if it dealt with election rigging?

Recall:


“I was not paying attention. For me, it was not like the Hillary Clinton server, it was like an email server she and others were using with political voting stuff," Guccifer said.


Fox News

When did Hillary officially announce her campaign for 2016?



launched her 2016 presidential bid on April 12 with a Tweet and a campaign video in which she cast herself as the champion of a middle class still struggling to emerge from recession.


NBC news

But, what if she was already organizing and planning while she was Secretary of State?

It was widely guessed that she would run again, but I am left wondering about the legalities of actively working on the aparatus of a presidential election whilst simultaneously holding a cabinet level position.

I really do not know and am hoping someone with more knowledge can share their thoughts on this.

Is there a point before which Hillary would have broken the law (not that she would let a detail like that stop her) had she actively worked on organizing her campaign?

The reason I ask the above question is because of an email sent congratulating her on her being appoint as SoS in which the following is also said:


BTW, would like your campaign staff for the 2016 election!
Gods speed and tight hug,
PrdJTleela Bartholomeusz
DNC Platform Committee Member


April 29, 2016
Case No. F-2015-06322


From an email sent January 2009.

If she was actively working on her presidential campaign behind the scenes while also holdng the office of SoS, did she break any laws?

This would fit in with the "...not connected to the ongoing FBI criminal probe of Clinton's server." and also fall under the category of "hot" as in time sensitive (iirc, "hot" can mean time critical) data, would it not?

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posted on May, 14 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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As for what was discussed on that plane, Lazar said he told a State Department representative on the plane about "hot" data, some of which was hidden in Google drives, and other data that was too sensitive and deleted. The hacker, who offered no proof for his claims, said cryptically that he could not say more.


So...what is "hot" data?


Hot data is data that needs to be accessed frequently. It is typically business-critical information that needs to be accessed quickly and is often used by a company for quick decision making.



Hot data usually resides on the fastest storage -- typically flash in hybrid or tiered storage environments.


Some was hidden in Google drives?!!!! Really?!!! I knew this administration is super cozy with Google, but....


For Google Drive to synchronize files between the user's computer and Google Drive storage, the Google Drive 'client' software must be running on the user's computer. The client communicates with Google Drive to synchronise data.


en.wikipedia.org...


I'm no tech, but wouldn't that open a whole can of National Security Worms?


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posted on May, 14 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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Google Drive incorporates a system of file sharing in which the creator of a file or folder is, by default, its owner. The owner can regulate the public visibility of the file or folder.


This now makes me wonder if Guccifer meant other governments or persons may have had access or visibility to some of Hillary's "hot" data....maybe even been allowed access intentionally.



posted on May, 14 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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You bring up an interesting point about this data being held on Google drives.

What do you think the odds are that ole Goog can get to that data?

Now he could have encrypted it, but how secure is that going to be against the NSA should they decide to insert their probiscus?



posted on May, 14 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: queenofswords

You bring up an interesting point about this data being held on Google drives.

What do you think the odds are that ole Goog can get to that data?

Now he could have encrypted it, but how secure is that going to be against the NSA should they decide to insert their probiscus?


jAc....You might find this reading very interesting. Our White House and Google are thick as thieves.




In this extract from his new book When Google Met Wikileaks, WikiLeaks' publisher Julian Assange describes the special relationship between Google, Hillary Clinton and the State Department


Google Is Not What It Seems
by Julian Assange

Oops! I forgot we can't link to anything from WikiLeaks. Maybe you can find it by searching for the title and author. It's a lengthy excerpt but contains lots of food for thought.


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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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Good reading there, thank you!

I also keep thinking of Pagliano and his missing .pst file. That is much more than just his emails, its his entire electronic appointment book; including contacts, his schedule, emails, tasks, and all of his use within the MS Outlook software. Investigators could learn a lot from that file.

I am reminded that his resume mentions:


Manage discrete projects as required.


Judicial Watch

Pagliano, and his .pst file, could be key in taking the whole kit and kaboodle down.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 07:00 PM
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Guess whoe else is mentioned in this email:



(Lady Lynn Rothschild knows well and I am sorry say that I supported the McCain/Palin ticket the final weeks-I truly believed Sen McCain was more likely include you his cabinet).


Here's proof the DNC and the Clintons hobnob with the elite of the elite.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 07:40 PM
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I am still waiting for the day someone just releases some revealing data. Lots of build up to very little substance. Guess it means the bombshell info gets kept well hidden.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 09:41 PM
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Many people think people like the Rothschilds are fantasy.

Just look at this Lynn Forester de Rothschild

and she's just one of them !!!!!

and of course, Lady Rothschild hosted a $100,000 a plate (minimum) campaign dinner for Lady Hillary


Pardon Me, Do You Have Any Grey Poupon?







posted on May, 26 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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The first primary had me thinking Hilley was involved in election fraud:


McGuire is close to Clinton in other ways. In 2007 she was appointed to the Women’s Leadership Council for Team Hillary, a group of 250 women whose goal was to help Clinton reach the White House.


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Could Guciffers files shed some light on the other 248 members and their planning election fraud?

I've only found mention of two members by name Wasserman Schultz and Andy McGuire head of the Iowa democrats. Both of which have promoted HRC and have been accused of tilting the primary in Hilleys favor. What if there is a list of states and election officals that lists how they would manipulate vote tallies in favor of HRC?


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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 01:01 PM
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Indeed, if there were indications of wide spread efforts to defraud voters by Hillary and members of the DNC, that would be a major setback.

That might even open a few eyes.

Might...



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