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SPACE WARS The Pentagon is spending $2 billion on mysterious space weapons

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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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22 Billion a year on Space programs by the Pentagon? Really? And we still haven't even gotten to Mars yet? Really? Well, we haven't done these things in the public sector but this article concerns the Pentagon so this spending probably involves Black budget spending. Anyway, this article discusses an apparent urgency by the Pentagon to increase its Space program spending by 5 billion this year over its yearly 22 billion spending budget. According to the article, the Pentagon is working to develop a national security infrastructure in Space.



The Pentagon spends $22 billion on space programs and is investing an additional $5 billion in space efforts this year, including $2 billion for what is known as "space control,” which includes its highly classified offensive programs. [Air Force Gen. John] Hyten declined to discuss the ways in which the United States is preparing to attack other countries in space. But the United States has had the capability to blow up satellites since 1985, when an F-15 fighter pilot fired a missile into space that took out an old military observation satellite. [The Washington Post]


Why the sudden need for Space defense now? There's a lot of talk about satellite protection in the article but i think there's a lot more to it than just that...What says ATS?

theweek.com...




posted on May, 11 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: lostbook

Because Russia and China both have been pushing pretty hard developing ASAT weapons. The US cancelled the F-15 launched system after successfully blowing up a satellite with it, because they determined that it might violate treaties at the time. Currently the best weapon we have is the Aegis BMD system. They're trying not to fall too far behind in the ASAT field.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: lostbook

Because Russia and China both have been pushing pretty hard developing ASAT weapons. The US cancelled the F-15 launched system after successfully blowing up a satellite with it, because they determined that it might violate treaties at the time. Currently the best weapon we have is the Aegis BMD system. They're trying not to fall too far behind in the ASAT field.


See, that's the problem. Why are we behind with those type of expenditures? Trump may be right yet again, we don't win anymore in anything.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Because China wasn't a signatory to any treaties banning the weapons, and after they canceled the ASM-135 work slowed way down on our ASAT systems. They still worked on them but they weren't as much of a priority as they had been.

Just because we spend a lot on the military doesn't mean that we're developing ground breaking weapons in every field. A huge chunk of that budget goes to base upkeep, fuel, and regular maintenance costs for our forces.
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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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As far as space weapons, show of hands who doesn't think the military has nukes in space ready to drop on targets?

Obviously a tactical advantage, Incoming warheads have no ground launch detection signature to detect, and lots less flight time to target.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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Why can't we allocate this to space travel?

I would make the comment longer, but I need to get back to work and pay for an imaginary defense system that will protect us from their imaginary defense system.

Christ, for 22 bill, we could build the gd Starship Enterprise and hire Kirk.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: lostbook

Because Russia and China both have been pushing pretty hard developing ASAT weapons. The US cancelled the F-15 launched system after successfully blowing up a satellite with it, because they determined that it might violate treaties at the time. Currently the best weapon we have is the Aegis BMD system. They're trying not to fall too far behind in the ASAT field.


No disrespect to our brave men and women, just trying to make sense of it all....the urgency might be from intel we're not privy to. I wonder if there will be weaponized satellites......? I think there's a prophecy somewhere of some kind of "war in the heavens." Maybe this is what was predicted.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: lostbook

There's a lot of urgency, partly because Russia and China have closed the gap in a number of areas that the US has traditionally been well ahead in, and it's caught the people that should have seen it coming flat footed. The general thinking was that "we've always been ahead, so it'll be years before they catch us", and suddenly new weapons come out that are either almost as good as what we're fielding, or even slightly better.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: lostbook

There's a lot of urgency, partly because Russia and China have closed the gap in a number of areas that the US has traditionally been well ahead in, and it's caught the people that should have seen it coming flat footed. The general thinking was that "we've always been ahead, so it'll be years before they catch us", and suddenly new weapons come out that are either almost as good as what we're fielding, or even slightly better.


Well, that's not good. Not good at all. What about all of the supposed hidden tech which is supposed to be light years ahead of what there is now? Why isn't some of that tech released and made public if it's for defense of the public?



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Because China wasn't a signatory to any treaties banning the weapons, and after they canceled the ASM-135 work slowed way down on our ASAT systems. They still worked on them but they weren't as much of a priority as they had been.

Just because we spend a lot on the military doesn't mean that we're developing ground breaking weapons in every field. A huge chunk of that budget goes to base upkeep, fuel, and regular maintenance costs for our forces.


Why do we sign treaties that exclude others from the same limitations? Sounds like another one of Trump's complaints, rookies making deals ruining the country.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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Does this have anything to do with the earth space defense and us army and Independence Day 2 movie?



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

At the time the treaty was signed, China wasn't in any position to have anything that would be able to hit a satellite for a long time. Congress banned testing of the ASM-135 on space based targets in 1985. The first Chinese ASAT weapon was seen in the 2000s.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: lostbook

It's not light years ahead, but if it's necessary it will be brought out. There are a number of systems that are starting to see the light of day that are in electronics and fields that aren't going to be useful in weapons areas, but will work as defensive systems.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:06 PM
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Because you can never have too many close-up pictures of young Russian women sunbathing by the Black Sea.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

At the time the treaty was signed, China wasn't in any position to have anything that would be able to hit a satellite for a long time. Congress banned testing of the ASM-135 on space based targets in 1985. The first Chinese ASAT weapon was seen in the 2000s.


That's like letting Iran have nukes because they didn't have any when we signed testing bans and non proliferation treaties.
Our wise leaders holding us back from the finish line, and letting the turtles pass us by.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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Whoever controls space, control the world.

Better get it together America, or we'll all be speaking Chinese by 2020.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Considering Iran doesn't have nukes, that's a poor analogy.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
Whoever controls space, control the world.

Better get it together America, or we'll all be speaking Chinese by 2020.



Dont fret. Im pretty sure we got it covered....and for a while now.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Considering Iran doesn't have nukes, that's a poor analogy.


No it is perfect, they can acquire them because they are exempt from all the nuke treaties ever made because they were not at the table when they were signed. That is the same position China is using to have space weapons.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

First off, Iran is a signatory of the NPT. Secondly, the treaty on weapons in space only bans weapons of mass destruction being placed into orbit. China is also a signatory of that treaty too. It doesn't ban conventional weapons in orbit, or ASAT weapons in space.



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