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OKAY. I'm going with Jill Stein if I can't go with Bernie

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I have defined socialism and democratic socialism.

I have used current definitions.

You, I don't know what to say. . . .

You curse, spout vulgarities, all because someone doesn't embrace your ideology.

This speaks more of you than it does of me.

Socialism is wrong, in my opinion. Bernie is a socialist, in my opinion. Socialism is just the step prior to communism, in my opinion.

Socialism is weakness. It's giving up, giving in. It's surrendering to authority.

Weak people embrace socialism.

my opinion.




posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You need to own up to how you have misrepresented "Democratic Socialism" all this time - trying to portray it as "communism" and "authoritarianism" and some despotic horrible thing, when it is none of that.

It is merely a check-and-balance against only five people being staggeringly-super-wealthy, while everyone else slaves at their expense. I believe that either you are just stubbornly refusing to educate yourself, or you are truly too dense for it to sink in to your thick skull that Bernie is not a "communist", and nothing he is talking about takes away any of your "freedoms."


NONE OF IT TOUCHES YOUR "FREEDOMS."

For you to keep saying that it does is deliberate disinfo! So please, cut it out. Knock it off. Quit. Stop it. Your "opinion" notwithstanding, you are on a public forum, you have been given the sources and tools to educate yourself, and you persist in this nonsense. If you choose not to educate yourself, fine. Just STOP trying to mislead others. Bernie is not a communist, nor is his plan "authoritarian". If you continue pushing that lie, then you are simply here to make trouble. I am here asking you to stop it.

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

If you honestly think that socialism or democratic socialism will only affect 5 people, then you are misguided.

And I'm being polite here.

Your ideology is wrong.

Sorry. I know it's not nice to hear.

Find a safe space or something.

Because I will offer only my opinion, but it is based on long years of living in socialist countries abroad.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Eventually, we'll see socialism tried here in the US. It's only a matter of time.

For some reason, people tend to drift towards an authoritarian/socialist state.

You'll get your wish.



It is a carefully crafted genetically , imbalance in the brain that is the ROOT cause of all of this.

The ones who are so sure that it is "human nature" may want to look into this issue................



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



If you honestly think that socialism or democratic socialism will only affect 5 people, then you are misguided.


True. Socialism is the basic principle behind the military, police, fire fighters, public roadways, etc. We all benefit from it.

I fail to see how that is wrong. Well, unless you hate all those things.

You don't hate those things, do you?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Your ways of thinking will be disappeared faster than you can blink, soon.

I suggest you steel your very cells for this moment.




posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

okay.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Bull.

Mislabel socialism all you wish. It is the control of the means of production.

Look it up. Seems to be the theme here.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Eventually, we'll see socialism tried here in the US. It's only a matter of time.

For some reason, people tend to drift towards an authoritarian/socialist state.

You'll get your wish.



It is a carefully crafted genetically , imbalance in the brain that is the ROOT cause of all of this.

The ones who are so sure that it is "human nature" may want to look into this issue................


Social engineering favors socialism.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

Bull.

Mislabel socialism all you wish. It is the control of the means of production.

Look it up. Seems to be the theme here.



a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole


The product is the military, it is distributed and regulated as needed and paid for by the community as a whole.

The product is the police, distributed as needed and regulated as needed and paid for by the community as a whole.

The product is a roadway, distributed as needed and regulated as needed and paid for by the community as a whole.

Methinks you don't want to admit what is obvious.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


If you honestly think that socialism or democratic socialism will only affect 5 people, then you are misguided.

And I'm being polite here.

Your ideology is wrong.


What? Nono, dude.

The "five people" are the super-wealthy that you revere and hold in such high esteem that they must never be touched or held accountable......and they are the ones you hope some day to emulate......
and whether you're "polite" or not makes no difference, because in any case, you're spreading lies about what Bernie stands for.......

my ideology is fine. YOUR attempts to redefine what Bernie stands for are egregiously, outrageously out of bounds.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

NO IT IS NOT

OMG!!!!!!!!!

NO, IT IS NOT!!!



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

*sigh*


a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies


www.merriam-webster.com...



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

*sigh*


a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies


www.merriam-webster.com...


The Military is a major industry.

The police are a major industry.

Roads are a major industry...all owned by the collective government and not owned by the people or private companies.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Yep, and look how screwed up it is now.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

Yep, and look how screwed up it is now.


So you admit what I described is socialism.

Cool. That's all I needed.

How well they work, well, do you complain when the military saves your ass from outside threats? Do you complain when police catch killers and other criminals? Do you complain when driving on the roads I helped pay for on the way to work or the grocery store?

Ya, that's screwed up.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: DBCowboy

Socialism has existed in some form in this country for over a 100 years now. Where have you been?


And the country has been going downhill for oh... hey look! 100 years.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

Yep, and look how screwed up it is now.


So you admit what I described is socialism.

Cool. That's all I needed.

How well they work, well, do you would complain when the military saves your ass from outside threats? Do you complain when police catch killers and other criminals? Do you complain when driving on the roads I helped pay for on the way to work or the grocery store?

Ya, that's screwed up.


Military, Police and Roads are not private goods and services.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

Yep, and look how screwed up it is now.


So you admit what I described is socialism.

Cool. That's all I needed.

How well they work, well, do you would complain when the military saves your ass from outside threats? Do you complain when police catch killers and other criminals? Do you complain when driving on the roads I helped pay for on the way to work or the grocery store?

Ya, that's screwed up.


Military, Police and Roads are not private goods and services.


Exactly. They are goods paid for by the collective wealth of the nation.

Socialism...you're welcome.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:19 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: DBCowboy

NO IT IS NOT

OMG!!!!!!!!!

NO, IT IS NOT!!!



Just because you have convinced yourself otherwise, does not change what socialism is.

You seem to have mistaken the governmental ideology of socialism for some type of star-trekkish utopian... thing.




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