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OKAY. I'm going with Jill Stein if I can't go with Bernie

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad
You are just looking for a way to take the focus off your inability to defend your reasoning for supporting communist/socialist planning.
More power to me.
Shall we get to a rational discussion of these things? Here's more of jills plan

A Green New Deal: Create millions of jobs by transitioning to 100% clean renewable energy by 2030, and investing in public transit, sustainable agriculture, and conservation.
www.jill2016.com...
Ok green new deal.... Isn't that a throw back to the FDR socialist New Deal? Only it's green now not red. Why is it green? Why, it's because of the Green Agenda of "sustainable development" which is right out of Agenda 21. And she says right in her statement she's going to create millions of new jobs with this sustainability stuff and alternative energy and conservation. I bet she's going to create jobs just like potus did with solyndra and Peabody Coal.
Want me to keep going?
My new phone is changing my text and I don't catch it till its posted. Sorry it's such a problem for you
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

Oh goodbye then.. Sorry it's just getting interesting. Let's discuss jills plan.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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Here's more agenda 21 stuff in her green plan

Lead on a global treaty to halt climate change. End destructive energy extraction: fracking, tar sands, offshore drilling, oil trains, mountaintop removal, and uranium mines. Protect our public lands, water supplies, biological diversity, parks, and pollinators. Label GMOs, and put a moratorium on GMOs and pesticides until they are proven safe. Protect the rights of futu
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A global treaty to halt climate change ????? And you guys are calling me nuts..... She's going to end offshore drilling...is that going to be in the new global treaty? Will China sign it? Screams U N to me mightily.shes going to end fracking---yes that should create millions of new jobs right there. She's going to stop oil trains yep I've seen those signs in every yard of every progressive in my area... Except they were coal ...
I can do more on this.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Just kiss freedom, opportunity, self-reliance, individualism goodbye.

Too many don't want freedom anymore.

They want to rely on the state.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Hillary is stealing the nomination from Bernie with the supers, Bernie could win California, there is a push for the GOP to help Bernie in California.
Check this out....GOP

If the supers had brains and integrity they would do what Tulsi Gabbard did and get behind Bernie.
This election should be Trump VS Sanders, I believe that both of these guys actually care about America, either one would be better than Clinton.

Some are quick to write off Trump, but he will be a "legacy" guy, he will care that he leaves a good legacy, to that end I think he will try his best, and not be pathetic and infamous like Bush was/is.
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:22 PM
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Yes, it should be Trump vs Sanders -

honestly, I'd prefer either one of them over Hillary! Or any "Republican" stand-in for Trump!

The supers - well - the "super-delegates" need to get their act together. If they weren't included in the poll numbers (which they shouldn't be), he'd be ahead......

even CNN had an article yesterday about how he's a better bet to beat Trump!!!

And yet - if Trump wins, I'd be all, "Okay - show us what you got." I mean, it's not like Congress has to go along with anything he says (neither does Mexico! LOL!!). Still, if he is handed the mic, then let's hear what he's got!!!! Can't be worse than what "the establishment" would say.....Green Eggs and Ham???? REALLY?

Gawd, I'm just so glad Ted got his Cruz handed to him.
But I really, really love Caroline (his daughter). Flicking his head, and telling the story about the "Daddy-Daughter-Day".







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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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Easy to say, but when I got into mine, the economy had not yet crashed, and I had every reason to expect it would not be difficult to repay with my MBA. I had a good job, was making good money, and even traveled often for my job. After 2008, I was WRONG, so WRONG....


Yep!

I won't be able to pay off my Master's either!

Thought it would be easy - but nope! Now it's impossible. Oh damn well.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Maybe the U.S. already has the wins (whatever those are supposed to be).



Us does have good things going for it and other countries do copy and imitate many of our laws and policies. That's for sure. America is a great country, however we have many problems and do many things badly or a lot worse than some other countries. It's never a bad thing to take what works in another country and implement a similar policy here. Only a fool doesn't copy success.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:31 PM
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Oh my god.

WILL you please get over the "Agenda 21" crap??? - Or at least take it elsewhere! It's ridiculous. There's really nothing in "Agenda 21" that is going to hurt you. It's not a law. It's not being forced on anyone. It's not a huge threat. You are wasting lots of energy, time, and emotion on it.
Something that doesn't have any effect on our daily lives whatsoever. Just - let it go. Try to focus on what's going on now.

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Oh my god.

WILL you please get over the "Agenda 21" crap??? - Or at least take it elsewhere! It's ridiculous. There's really nothing in "Agenda 21" that is going to hurt you. It's not a law. It's not being forced on anyone. It's not a huge threat. You are wasting lots of energy, time, and emotion on it.
Something that doesn't have any effect on our daily lives whatsoever. Just - let it go. Try to focus on what's going on now.
It's all over her freaking platform!!!!! Sorry if you can't see it. Have a good night.



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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Whether anyone "sees it" or not makes no difference. You're tilting at windmills. Do you not realize that?

It's silly.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Don Quixote should be a role model for everyone fighting against socialism.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Exactly.
Because it's going to happen - it already is happening, and you all are acting like it's the end of the world, when it won't do one damn thing but HELP you (unless you're a billionaire. Are you a billionaire? then why are you even here?).


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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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Just because it's going to happen doesn't mean that people should simply bend over and take it.

Some will fight.

Don Quixote and I and others will tilt at the windmills you embrace, simply because we are free people who desire freedom.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:04 PM
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Bend over and take what? Feeling secure that you won't die on the streets? That you'll have enough to eat and medicine if you get sick? That your kids will get an education AND not starve AND not die of medical neglect?

Why on earth would you fight against that?

You make no sense. You and ThirdEye and all of you "OH NOEZ AGENDA 21!" types. It's just ridiculous.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I won't die on the streets, I always have enough to eat, and I have medicine if I fall ill.

But then again, I take responsibility for myself and my family.

I don't cede it for the sake of convenience.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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No one who is competent, able, and sufficiently set up cedes responsibility. You are conflating the facts - just like you are typically lying about what Democratic Socialism is....

and since you really have nothing to offer this thread (because you refuse and/or are unable to comprehend what is being discussed), why are you here?

We all know where we can find lies and propaganda and right-wing rhetoric when we want to hear it.
I actually thought ATS was about real information, about not spreading stupid lies and misleading vulnerable people.



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