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OKAY. I'm going with Jill Stein if I can't go with Bernie

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: AlaskanDad
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

No I not saying anything of the sort, lol's at the Horus spin machine.

I say that you have spun and misrepresented both Sen Sanders and Dr Steins position as carbon copying the failed USSR, which is not the case!

No you said Bernie and Jill
Are evolved and I ask you how? You are the one twisting all this stuff around. I posted Lenin and stalin's words to show what communism and socialism is and you insisted that the Bernie and Jill styles are somehow different and evolved. Tell me how specifically. Is the definition of communism and socialism changed over the years?
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Yet those countries have just as many failures that affect as much of the populations as the U.S. failures do.



Nobody can come up solutions that eliminate the failures.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

People have forgotten.

We have a whole generation of people growing up who think communism and socialism are great because Venezuela isn't "real" socialism.

Only Denmark is.

Scary thing is, they'll be the leaders in another 20 years.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Wow so much spin and disingenuous attacks over the mention of voting fo Dr Stein and the green party. What we are seeing here is an all out attack on a third party candidate, that has little or no chance of success. I wonder why the constant attempt to use russia extreme violent over throw of their government to compare to Sen Sanders and Dr Stein.

I feel fear, might it be we're question the great R & D and suggesting that their corporate ideals are not representing us?

How dare we to talk of taking back the government of "We The People" from the corps that bought it.

Lol's at the status quo!!!



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

I am neither an R or D,

do not include me when you say 'We the people', you nor anyone else represents me or my beliefs.

I am beginning to think defecting is the only option.

Ever since the Bush years, I have been harassed, stalked, and intimidated by government agencies; it got real bad when I started going to kung fu class, and when I wrote on the internet about US government coups. That is not a free society, and under a socialist government, I would be killed.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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So how close is she to winning?



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

Under a socialist government, I'd just be left to die.

Yay socialism, huh!



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: AlaskanDad
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

No I not saying anything of the sort, lol's at the Horus spin machine.

I say that you have spun and misrepresented both Sen Sanders and Dr Steins position as carbon copying the failed USSR, which is not the case!

No you said Bernie and Jill
Are evolved and I ask you how? You are the one twisting all this stuff around. I posted Lenin and stalin's words to show what communism and socialism is and you insisted that the Bernie and Jill styles are somehow different and evolved. Tell me how specifically. Is the definition of communism and socialism changed over the years?



No you said Bernie and Jill
Are evolved


Would you quote where I said that?

Like alien hybrids, or just evolved in general.

If you're inferring to the fact that Sen Sanders nor Dr Steins social ideasl do not plan to follow the Russians example in change or policy then you are correct. I say their plan will evolve from our current system.



Tell me how specifically. Is the definition of communism and socialism changed over the years?


Funny how definitions and meanings can change, there was a time gay meant happy.

Can you tell me the exact type of government we currently have? Will youn answer meet every criteria that can be applied to it



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

We live under a corporate fascist oligarchy, parading as a federal constitutional republic. Our economic system is fascist/corporatist, in that it values corporate protectionism and corporate welfare.

Under the future socialist democracy, the proper term would be Authoritarian Technocractic Dictatorship, or Scientific Dictatorship.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

Ever since the Bush years, I have been harassed, stalked, and intimidated by government agencies; it got real bad when I started going to kung fu class, and when I wrote on the internet about US government coups. That is not a free society, and under a socialist government, I would be killed.


Lol's

Could you point me to where Sen Sanders Or Dr Stein have included plans for your death in their campaign platforms?

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: AlaskanDad

We live under a corporate fascist oligarchy, parading as a federal constitutional republic. Our economic system is fascist/corporatist, in that it values corporate protectionism and corporate welfare.

Under the future socialist democracy, the proper term would be Authoritarian Technocractic Dictatorship, or Scientific Dictatorship.


OIC

ROTFLMAO

You forgot the socialist part in your description of the US of A's government, nor did you bother to address the country you're discussing, I assume the US of A?




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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

We've had social programs since the New Deal. Pity things have gone for the worse as the years roll by. Did the current democrat socialist admin make things better or reduce our debt? Noooooo they did not. Now we've lost jobs in the coal industry which the content admin is trying to destroy and threatened to destroy 7 years ago. We have an eps which floods rivers with toxic spills (see Colorado) and an attempt to control and regulate ditch water on private property. It's absolutely disgusting what they've been doing. So ol Bernie or maybe this Jill chick is going to do it all better than the last potus? Keep dreaming the utopian dream .
By the way my edits are usually typos or just adding content. And speaks my of lol ...... What we need is bigger government and more red tap and more spying on our personal lives and more taxes ...... Lol lol lol lol
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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

What's so funny?

Where am I wrong?

So in your 'democratic socialist' utopia, you elect your dictator, and then he says we need single payer; so in a 'democratic socialist' utopia, the people put it to a vote, let's say 51% said NO to single payer; well they just are stupid so we'll do it anyway. Authoritarian technocratic dictatorship, that is the kind of socialism you are advocating.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

And defending the status quo is going to fix this how?

That has got to be the stupidest argument I have ever seen.

We have lots of problems, so don't vote for a candidate that makes fixing them part of their campaign platform.


This is OMG ROTFLMAO funny!



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: AlaskanDad

What's so funny?

Where am I wrong?

So in your 'democratic socialist' utopia, you elect your dictator, and then he says we need single payer; so in a 'democratic socialist' utopia, the people put it to a vote, let's say 51% said NO to single payer; well they just are stupid so we'll do it anyway. Authoritarian technocratic dictatorship, that is the kind of socialism you are advocating.


Please show me where Sen Sanders or Dr Stein. call for making the US of A a dictatorship?

effing stupidity!!!

Sounds more like the guy from the Apprentice, Donald Trump.


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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: amazing

Yet those countries have just as many failures that affect as much of the populations as the U.S. failures do.



Nobody can come up solutions that eliminate the failures.


No... but the smart thing to do is take the wins, the things that work and implement them. If we just did that...Because many of those countries are winning in a lot of areas.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad
Wow spin and disingenuous attacks because we have a difference of opinion? Because we don't agree with your premise that socialism works or that it has evolved to be better? Interesting. It is a fact that the Soviet Union failed from deadly centralized planning. It's a fact that communism is the goal off socialism. It's a fact that there were bread lines in the United Soviet socialist republic. Fact: Bernie stated that bread lines are a good thing
I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and its rotten to the (common) core.

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

They can't shoot it down, man. They just keep bringing up tired memes like "Agenda 21", and "Communism" - neither of which have any single damn thing to do with what Bernie is suggesting.

Oh well - at least there are 9,000,000 PLUS people who haven't been tainted by the Conspiracy Theory illusions.

It astounds me, really - how stuck some people are.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

O
M
G
You just don't get it.
You don't.

You don't realize that what Bernie is proposing (and MILLIONS of normal (sane) people agree with)....has not one damned thing to do with the USSR, or any other fascist dictatorship.

You just don't get it. You don't. That's what I would say, but the fact is that you keep on with this tripe no matter how many hundreds of posts and sources prove that you are full of crap.......you just refuse.


I find it incomprehensible that you, a literate citizen of planet Earth, continue to spew this crap that Bernie is a communist.

It is, truly, embarrassing (for you) and idiotic (in general). I weep for this country.


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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

As to hungry people that have no bread lines to go to, they are a good thing.

I think this is a better idea:

Switzerland May Guarantee All Citizens $2,600 Monthly Income




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