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OKAY. I'm going with Jill Stein if I can't go with Bernie

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Socialism is the state ownership of the means of production.

Democratic socialism is the state ownership of the means of production through the democratic process.

That is what it means, what have you been led to believe it means?




posted on May, 12 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

And like I said earlier, you can change the definition of dog poo to "chocolate syrup". But it'll still taste like crap when you put it on ice cream.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Stop it!! I can't stop laughing!!!

ROFL, mmmm some of that chocolate syrups, why it taste so funny?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

YOU ARE BOTH WRONG.

Do more homework.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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Jill Stein is a joke candidate. This is from here AMA.



She can't even spell Fukushima, is completely wrong about cost, is completely wrong about safety, is completely wrong about nuclear power not being clean.

She's a nutter butter. As I recall she's an anti-vaxxer too. I'd prefer Bernie and his communism.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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As a country I would like America to stay out of the top half of this spectrum.


edit on 12-5-2016 by Konduit because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Love that chart.




posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

The AMA basically turned into a mudslinging competition between different Liberal factions. It was interesting to see how quickly they turned on each other.

edit on 12-5-2016 by Konduit because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

The salt was delicious!




posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
Jill Stein is a joke candidate. This is from here AMA.



She can't even spell Fukushima, is completely wrong about cost, is completely wrong about safety, is completely wrong about nuclear power not being clean.

She's a nutter butter. As I recall she's an anti-vaxxer too. I'd prefer Bernie and his communism.


Looks like a simple typo, BFD!!!!

As for the rest of your accusations:

I am Jill Stein, Green Party candidate for President, AMA! by jillstein2016 in IAmA

[–]jillstein2016[S] -879 points 22 hours ago*

Nuclear energy is dirty, dangerous and expensive and should be ruled out for all those reasons. Fukoshima is the poster child of the nuclear power industry. You can put it in someone else's back yard or on the other side of the world but we are all endangered by it.

And we don't need it! Renewable are the least expensive. Nuclear is the most expensive. It only survives because our government is in bed with the industry and campaign contributions by the loan guarantees that the industry cannot operate without. The continued existence of this lethal form of energy is a tribute to the corruption of our political system. Clean up our energy. Clean up our politics. Join the Green movement.

You can refer to answers I've already given to vaccines and homeopathy during tonights AMA. How the average person can help: go to Jill2016.com, sign up for email, volunteer, chip in if you can (donations doubled by matching funds). Spread the word however you can, including FB and Twitter. Join the Jill Stein for President Social Media Team on FB - we'd love to have more communication with reddit users!

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I notice you left out her answer to the question, you're being quite lame by leaving out the source link too!



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
Jill Stein is a joke candidate. This is from here AMA.



She can't even spell Fukushima, is completely wrong about cost, is completely wrong about safety, is completely wrong about nuclear power not being clean.

She's a nutter butter. As I recall she's an anti-vaxxer too. I'd prefer Bernie and his communism.


Dr Steins view on Vaccines and homeopathy:


I am Jill Stein, Green Party candidate for President, AMA! by jillstein2016 in IAmA

[–]jillstein2016[S] -229 points 22 hours ago

I don't know if we have an "official" stance, but I can tell you my personal stance at this point. According to the most recent review of vaccination policies across the globe, mandatory vaccination that doesn't allow for medical exemptions is practically unheard of. In most countries, people trust their regulatory agencies and have very high rates of vaccination through voluntary programs. In the US, however, regulatory agencies are routinely packed with corporate lobbyists and CEOs. So the foxes are guarding the chicken coop as usual in the US. So who wouldn't be skeptical? I think dropping vaccinations rates that can and must be fixed in order to get at the vaccination issue: the widespread distrust of the medical-indsutrial complex.

Vaccines in general have made a huge contribution to public health. Reducing or eliminating devastating diseases like small pox and polio. In Canada, where I happen to have some numbers, hundreds of annual death from measles and whooping cough were eliminated after vaccines were introduced. Still, vaccines should be treated like any medical procedure--each one needs to be tested and regulated by parties that do not have a financial interest in them. In an age when industry lobbyists and CEOs are routinely appointed to key regulatory positions through the notorious revolving door, its no wonder many Americans don't trust the FDA to be an unbiased source of sound advice. A Monsanto lobbyists and CEO like Michael Taylor, former high-ranking DEA official, should not decide what food is safe for you to eat. Same goes for vaccines and pharmaceuticals. We need to take the corporate influence out of government so people will trust our health authorities, and the rest of the government for that matter. End the revolving door. Appoint qualified professionals without a financial interest in the product being regulated. Create public funding of elections to stop the buying of elections by corporations and the super-rich.

For homeopathy, just because something is untested doesn't mean it's safe. By the same token, being "tested" and "reviewed" by agencies tied to big pharma and the chemical industry is also problematic. There's a lot of snake-oil in this system. We need research and licensing boards that are protected from conflicts of interest. They should not be limited by arbitrary definitions of what is "natural" or not.


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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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I don't really trust Mexicans. Honestly I do not trust them. My interaction with Mexicans, including the working force, has been very rocky. Politically they trust who ever has a Mexican sounding last name to vote for president.

Want a good example? New Mexico. I still live here. And my overall summary of life here is that they are patchwork civilians. Oh this is broken? Just patch it instead of fixing it.

Honestly.... I do not trust them. Especially considering Suzanas model to make money for New Mexico.

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I consider myself to be a right-leaning Libertarian, which I guess puts me in a pretty good spot on the freedom scale compared to some other folks on here.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: xuenchen

I consider myself to be a right-leaning Libertarian, which I guess puts me in a pretty good spot on the freedom scale compared to some other folks on here.


That pretty much describes me as well




posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:00 PM
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/yawn

TIME MAG: American Capitalism's Great Crisis


How Wall Street is choking our economy and how to fix it



A couple of weeks ago, a poll conducted by the Harvard Institute of Politics found something startling: only 19% of Americans ages 18 to 29 identified themselves as “capitalists.” In the richest and most market-oriented country in the world, only 42% of that group said they “supported capitalism.”

The numbers were higher among older people; still, only 26% considered themselves capitalists. A little over half supported the system as a whole.


This represents more than just millennials not minding the label “socialist” or disaffected middle-aged Americans tiring of an anemic recovery. This is a majority of citizens being uncomfortable with the country’s economic foundation—a system that over hundreds of years turned a fledgling society of farmers and prospectors into the most prosperous nation in human history.

To be sure, polls measure feelings, not hard market data. But public sentiment reflects day-to-day economic reality. And the data (more on that later) shows Americans have plenty of concrete reasons to question their system.


Did you read that, everyone? Read it. If you only skimmed it, read it again. I am not making this sh!t up. Keep reading.
Actually click on the site link and read the freaking article.




corporate stock buybacks, corporate pay and the wealth gap have risen concurrently over the past four decades. There are any number of studies that illustrate this type of intersection between financialization and inequality. One of the most striking was by economists James Galbraith and Travis Hale, who showed how during the late 1990s, changing income inequality tracked the go-go Nasdaq stock index to a remarkable degree.

Recently, this pattern has become evident at a number of well-known U.S. companies. Take Apple, one of the most successful over the past 50 years. Apple has around $200 billion sitting in the bank, yet it has borrowed billions of dollars cheaply over the past several years, thanks to superlow interest rates (themselves a response to the financial crisis) to pay back investors in order to bolster its share price.

Why borrow? In part because it’s cheaper than repatriating cash and paying U.S. taxes. All the financial engineering helped boost the California firm’s share price for a while. But it didn’t stop activist investor Carl Icahn, who had manically advocated for borrowing and buybacks, from dumping the stock the minute revenue growth took a turn for the worse in late April.

It is perhaps the ultimate irony that large, rich companies like Apple are most involved with financial markets at times when they don’t need any financing. Top-tier U.S. businesses have never enjoyed greater financial resources. They have a record $2 trillion in cash on their balance sheets—enough money combined to make them the 10th largest economy in the world.

Yet in the bizarre order that finance has created, they are also taking on record amounts of debt to buy back their own stock, creating what may be the next debt bubble to burst.

You and I, whether we recognize it or not, are also part of a dysfunctional ecosystem that fuels short-term thinking in business.


All you Nuh-uh folks need to provide valid sources to uphold your claims.
Lord knows a simple ATS search would provide you with innumberable sources, but since you don't listen, or comprehend very well what you read (or selectively ignore stuff that doesn't suit your agenda), you still don't get it.

Provide sources.
Or concede.

Capitalism is broken. Socialism is already here. You need to deal with that.

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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I notice you left out her answer to the question, you're being quite lame by leaving out the source link too!


I had the crop handy from something else. Jill Stein panders to crazies. I'm actually happy if you decide to vote for her now that Bernie is out, it helps take away from Hillary. This election cycle should be about keeping Hillary out. All this leftist infighting is very helpful, Bernie supporters wrecked Stein in that AMA.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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I'm actually happy if you decide to vote for her now that Bernie is out, it helps take away from Hillary.

Bernie isn't out.

And you are as bad as Slimeball Cruz for saying that.

Bernie is staying in it.
Here’s Why Bernie Sanders Hasn’t Dropped out

Who could possibly have thought—even two weeks ago—that Hillary Clinton would still be struggling to dispatch the pesky Bernie Sanders, who, from Clinton’s perspective, keeps hanging around like an unwelcome guest? And after his West Virginia win on Tuesday, he likely isn’t going away anytime soon.

Sanders sees himself as leading a movement, not just engaged in a political campaign.


Neither of them can now win the "required number" without the super-delegates.
He's within a few hundred of her. He's not out.

Deal with it. Stop with the lies.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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Seriously, people?

This thread is not in the MudPit.
You all have made this into some sort of troll-fest, and it's disgraceful.

I'm not supposed to call people "shills" or "trolls", but are you all really serious?
All of this is disgraceful disinformation you are spewing about. And you aren't even taking much time to do it. It takes five seconds to type out a ten-syllable insult. How much actual information has been accessed by you?

(My hunch: NONE. You're like a bunch of unruly brats in a sophomore civics class, who don't give a crap about any of this, and think it's funny to make snide remarks, insult the instructors, tear up the hand-outs and rip them into confetti. Real mature NOT.)

Really?

REALLY?

It's like you guys aren't even trying.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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Neither of them can now win the "required number" without the super-delegates.


And who are the super delegates supporting by a wide margin?



Deal with it. Stop with the lies.


I'd prefer Sanders to Hillary. No lies, just truth. There is no way Sanders can win at this point. He knows it, he's just staying in because he thinks he can force a few policy points. He should be ashamed of himself for still accepting donations that are going to wind up going into Hillary's coffers since he's already eliminated.

I'm fairly certain you're aware Sanders is out, since you started a thread about voting for Stein.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: AlaskanDad




I notice you left out her answer to the question, you're being quite lame by leaving out the source link too!


I had the crop handy from something else. Jill Stein panders to crazies. I'm actually happy if you decide to vote for her now that Bernie is out, it helps take away from Hillary. This election cycle should be about keeping Hillary out. All this leftist infighting is very helpful, Bernie supporters wrecked Stein in that AMA.



Now dear....



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