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Leftists and Democrats Opposing America. Mexican Flag Waving & Vicente's Middle FInger.

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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

There is no doubt that some people tied to La Raza or that support them are racist. Just as there are people tied to and/or support the Republican party that are racist. But that does not represent the whole.




posted on May, 11 2016 @ 12:19 PM
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I think about the term 'racist' thrown at me when I talk about Mexico, South America, Illegal Immigration, and my hatred for the Mexican Government.

I look back at my life and the fact that MOST of the women I've dated have been Hispanic. My greatest relationships have been with Hispanic women, and some of my WORST.

One of the greatest women I dated was in fact an Illegal Immigrant FROM Mexico. She was a Dental Tech, spoke perfect English, one of the kindest woman I've ever met. Found out she was here Illegally, taken in as a young kid.

Out of principle/philosophy I couldn't get over it. Told her we "just weren't for each other"...but it was a lie. She cried and I felt bad for a while, but I couldn't do it, it really bugged me. But she was in fact kinder and more genuine than most "American" girls I know.

Another one, the girl I SHOULD have married in my 20s, and took for granted, half "Mexican".

So don't tell me about "racism" or bigotry. I've probably been with more "Hispanic/Mexican" women than all the people in this thread put together, in FACT.

It doesn't cut it to call someone an EASY name and claim an EASY slander. Just doesn't work anymore.

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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TheBulk

Yes, there are groups out there that do exactly what you claim, but La Raza is advocacy group that does not focus on color. You are severely misinformed about that group.

But your focus is color, so I can see why you would lump them all together.

La voz de la raza means the voice of The Race meaning the voice of the race of mexico/aztlan. Thought you would want to know as progressives support this type of nationalism in the US because they are a voting bloc for the Democrat Party.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TheBulk

Yes, there are groups out there that do exactly what you claim, but La Raza is advocacy group that does not focus on color. You are severely misinformed about that group.

But your focus is color, so I can see why you would lump them all together.

La voz de la raza means the voice of The Race meaning the voice of the race of mexico/aztlan. Thought you would want to know as progressives support this type of nationalism in the US because they are a voting bloc for the Democrat Party. And yes they do protest on
The traditional day of communist parades likely because many of them support Che Guevara type Marxism and there are radicals who organize these protests who are connected to communism
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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TinfoilTP




So you are proposing that they are attempting to make their votes count more than other peoples votes?


No. I"m proposing that perhaps the waving of Mexican flags is "free speech", and not unexpected of proud Mexican Americans who resent what Trump said about them.


I say this: Say whatever you want. Wave whatever flag you want. Just get out of the damn road.

Harte


I support legal, peaceful (free speech) protests of all kinds, whether or not I agree with their political stances.



So shutting down other's free speech is in fact free speech?



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TheBulk

There is no doubt that some people tied to La Raza or that support them are racist. Just as there are people tied to and/or support the Republican party that are racist. But that does not represent the whole.


That's like saying some people connected the the KKK aren't racist.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

So if someone is connected to the Republicans, they are racist?



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TheBulk

So if someone is connected to the Republicans, they are racist?



No, No, only if they are white, but they could be racist if they are black and working for white causes like the republican party, there's exceptions for this to, for instance, if you go to the trump campaign to help but with the ulterior motive to prove racism and when non is found you claim micro aggression you are not a racist. It gets confusing but that's the general idea



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TheBulk

So if someone is connected to the Republicans, they are racist?



No, No, only if they are white, but they could be racist if they are black and working for white causes like the republican party, there's exceptions for this to, for instance, if you go to the trump campaign to help but with the ulterior motive to prove racism and when non is found you claim micro aggression you are not a racist. It gets confusing but that's the general idea


Ya, it's confusing because it makes absolutely no sense.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Agreed, guess we aren't that far apart then.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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Vicente Fox threatening/proposing WAR between Mexico and the U.S. Over words and a border wall.

Get it yet?




posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TheBulk

So if someone is connected to the Republicans, they are racist?


What are you talking about? The GOP isnt a racist organization. La Raza and the KKK are racist organizations.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TinfoilTP




So you are proposing that they are attempting to make their votes count more than other peoples votes?


No. I"m proposing that perhaps the waving of Mexican flags is "free speech", and not unexpected of proud Mexican Americans who resent what Trump said about them.


I say this: Say whatever you want. Wave whatever flag you want. Just get out of the damn road.

Harte


I support legal, peaceful (free speech) protests of all kinds, whether or not I agree with their political stances.


I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.

Personally, I don't think the right to free speech applies in a venue while there is a published agenda of scheduled speakers, such as an arranged political speech or rally. Unless, of course, there is a scheduled Q&A session or time set aside for public comments.
Even then, I feel that the event organizer has the right to limit the speech that occurs during such a public session.

Bernie's folks (for example) don't support Trump? Then don't vote for him.
You don't have a "right" to try and shout him down during one of his scheduled speeches to supporters.

There is no "right" to blockade a legitimate (or illegitimate) candidate for office from arriving at a scheduled rally, even if you don't block the highway for everyone else while doing so.

Harte



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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There is no "right" to blockade a legitimate (or illegitimate) candidate for office from arriving at a scheduled rally, even if you don't block the highway for everyone else while doing so.


Right!

However, I believe that I only have seen one incident of such a blockade. In the meantime, Mexican flag waving doesn't equal anti-American, law breaking, communist, socialist, leftist or any of the wide brush generalities being thrown at the Hispanic community.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 04:46 PM
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You are just spitting the propaganda you have been exposed to for all these years. Only thing you forgot was communist.

Deny Ignorance , you know Nothing about me Personally , and everything i mentioned in my previous Post is TRUTH . Take it or Leave it , but just remember America was Never Meant to be what it is Today .



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:15 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Harte




There is no "right" to blockade a legitimate (or illegitimate) candidate for office from arriving at a scheduled rally, even if you don't block the highway for everyone else while doing so.


Right!

However, I believe that I only have seen one incident of such a blockade. In the meantime, Mexican flag waving doesn't equal anti-American, law breaking, communist, socialist, leftist or any of the wide brush generalities being thrown at the Hispanic community.


I would call Mexican flag waving in this context anti-American.
Now, on May 5th (for example,) and in a different setting, it would be a different story.

But I don't think being anti-American in itself is illegal. And you won't win many hearts and minds that way. In fact, it could be damaging to whatever agenda is being promoted.

Harte



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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I don't see it as anti-American in this context, seeing how Trump called all Mexican immigrants criminals, drug dealers and rapists. I see it as a cultural push back.




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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Harte

I don't see it as anti-American in this context, seeing how Trump called all Mexican immigrants criminals, drug dealers and rapists. I see it as a cultural push back.





Your own video shows that Trump said:

"And some, I assume, are good people"

If SOME are good people, how would your statement that he said ALL...are rapists, etc.....be true.

Your post contradicts itself. Are you going to continue with the false narrative or admit your own video proves you wrong?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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And some, I assume, are good people."

How you don't see that as an insult is beyond me! But then again, I don't seem to understand the whole "Trump Supporter" mindset.



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