Russia to test unstoppable 'Satan 2' stealth nuke capable of wiping out an ENTIRE NATION

Having read the article, the following can be stated:

Russia is not going to test fire a nuke. They are part of various test ban treaties and other treaties that they will uphold. What they will be testing, is the delivery system for a nuclear weapon. This means that they are going to fire off a missile and see if they have the tech and know how to have one that either could be difficult to or hard to track.
Combine that with its current modernization of its nuclear arsenal and now they have the capacity to do such.

The Soviet Union, in the heyday of its attempt to develop weapons of mass destruction, including its nuclear weapons, came up with the biggest weapon of all, called Tsar Bomba. It only detonated the small one, dropped from an air plane a 50 mt weapon, the initial blast could be seen and felt over 600 miles away. The blast wave, encircled the earth, and was seen around the world.

What we should read into this article is 2 things: 1) They are updating their nuclear arsenal, including the delivery vehicles to be able to hit a target miles away. 2) They are going back and trying to reduce the size of their biggest weapon, the Tsar Bomba, (the big 100 mt) weapon to fit on this delivery vehicle. That is the only way they could be guarantee to have a blast that would devastate an area the size of France/Texas depending on where it was dropped.

What they are going to do, is show that they have a viable delivery vehicle. Does not need to test or drop a weapon, just show the capacity and usually it will give them leverage for such in the eyes of the rest of the world. A position of power.

Thanks to everyone contributing to my thread. There is some great discussion here and that's the true reason why I started it with this topic.

There is no theoretical limit to the yield of a fusion device.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
There is no theoretical limit to the yield of a fusion device.

Sure there is...

Its the point at which yield and effect on the planet / living entities cross and we all die.

a reply to: KnightFire

They would more than likely use SLBM's. Why launch a nuke from halfway across the world when you have stealth nuclear armed submarines..

Russia has Submarines that could wipe out an entire continent and they cannot be detected until they engage.

Russian RSM-56 Bulava SLBM nuclear missile test. Oct, 2014.

www.youtube.com...

ICBM's are stoppable if you scramble fighter jets and gun them down.

Guys guys guys,


All they need is one, and it doesn't have to be very big to get through. At that point it doesn't matter what detects what...its over...for everyone.

originally posted by: BooCrackers
Guys guys guys,


All they need is one, and it doesn't have to be very big to get through. At that point it doesn't matter what detects what...its over...for everyone.

The other thing to consider is a nuclear launch on the US is an article V NATO issue and there are a couple NATO members who either have US nukes stored there or they have their own nuclear weapons. An attack on the US would require a simultaneous attack on those NATO members. Since some of those nukes are on subs any nuclear exchange means all sides lose.

Given Putins mental stability I doubt he could accept a scenario where a NATO member gets the last shot in a tit for tat exchange.

a reply to: TheLordOfFlies23

*Stoppable if you scramble SR-72's to Intercept

www.lockheedmartin.com...

ICBM's move at Mach 10.. SR-72's move at Mach 20.

SR-72 can hit the ICBM is space before it disconnects from the MIRV.

MAD is still in effect and it will be until every last nuke on the planet is dealt with.

Unfortunately that's never likely to happen, because there is no reason either side would trust the other.

It's a certainty that any nation firing any nuke on any other nation would face retaliation.

The testing of a new delivery system is really nothing more than propaganda, posturing, muscle flexing. It's an expensive stage show for Russia and not much else.

The current threat is from a concealed device.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
The current threat is from a concealed device.

and most likely dirty and not Nagasaki.

a reply to: FlyingFox

You cannot put that big of a nuke in a small device tho.. No Country would do this and no country would be foolish enough to allow a nuke to fall into a terrorist hands. Terrorist disdain all forms of government and would be just as likely to attack the country providing the Nuclear Weapon. Small Nuclear Weapons are below SLBM's & ICBM's on a threat level. If a country we're to Nuke another country.. It would only make sense to do so on a level where the target country is completely incapacitated.. and whats left of it would have to be immediately invaded, It's leader immediately captured. Otherwise the attacking country would be completely incapacitated by counter attacks in return. Nuclear SLBM attacks on strategic locations is the biggest threat . SLBM can do what an ICBM can do and do it much closer; Also within the realms of stealth. Thus giving the Nuclear Attack better odds to be successful.

I wish for once they would use one of these IMCB's, seems like such a waste to let them pile dust.

Let's start with Mecca, it's a cool name although in this case Shaytan 2 would be more appropriate.

At the end of the day, I think we've all forgotten what it's like to face or become a beast like Hitler and Napoleon. Those experiences died with our forefathers and great grandfathers. Nobody wins in a nuclear war, When massive amounts of people are dieing there is no limitations to the depths of hell that a man or whats left of an army and/or country is willing to fall in Vengeance. When you have nothing to loose and are faced with certain death, There's only one choice in my mind.. Not today mother f*ckers. You will quickly find yourself in the fight of your life dealing with me or my country because I will become a monster that even monsters FEAR.

It's just another rocket with a fancy name. lol. The United States of America isn't Impressed.
We fly our nukes in because we prefer to be intimate.

Back in the day, Russia, then the USSR detonated a bomb so powerful that it scared them so bad they never repeated it. It was said that such detonations could trigger a chain reaction and set the atmosphere on fire. Yet, don't fear, the arsenal contained by the US and Russia is more than enough to wipe out all life many times over on the earth. And as we get more nations having the nuke you can bet that at some point some one will pop open the lid and let Pandora out of the box.

a reply to: Fromabove

Russia will be the one to pop Nukes off first. Do you see The United States of America creating ICBM's that can wipe out entire nations? No, Instead we build nuclear defense systems and place them Areas that detour Russia. Given Russia's continued focus and involvement on a nuclear program that involves building ICBM's and SLBM's with that kind of capability for destruction. I think it's safe to say that Russia is preparing for some kind of massive assault on America and then the world if America falls. Russia's nuclear program is the #1 world threat.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: KnightFire

Satellites do not use radar to detect an ICBM launch they use infrared.

That can be foiled rather easily these days...have you not seen the video clips going around that show tanks and armoured vehicles equipped with tech that allows them hide in plain sight, once the active como systems are engaged, the vehicle becomes invisible to IR detectors?

And let's remember, if we're seeing this tech on YT clips etc...it's already been superceeded and bettered by newer, better tech.

By that token, it's taken as read that the Russians would have the newer version, or better than the newer version, of this 'Invisible to IR' tech installed on all manner of vehicles, inclusing airframes and missles, probably satellites and so on too.

IR detection tech is only effective in helping the Police track down thugs and civilians trying to evade capture after comiting petty crimes etc...the days are over when it was installed in high altitude balloons to detect missile launches and the flight path of the same.

If the Russians had such a Satan 2 missile, i would assume they had a Satan 1 version...why didn't we hear about that one?

I'm puzzling over how and exactly where a country might get to test a weapon that is powerful enough to destroy entire countries, possibly continents?

The moon perhaps?