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originally posted by: chunder
For a start, "not the faintest hint of govt interest" - really, there are so many different ways to tear that statement apart it isn't even worth bothering to start.
originally posted by: chunder
"UFO's are a scientific problem" - Jacques Vallee must be laughing hysterically, there is no such thing as a scientific problem etc.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
If that is true, why wouldn't the DoD want to know what was flying around the skies in Illinois in 2000 if it wasn't one of theirs? I think that would be highly irrational of the DoD to take such a position, so his claims don't add up to me.
Chris (right) with former Secretary of Defense Bill Cohen in 1995. Note the inscription: “The Other Man who kept all the secrets.” Chris drafted the bill for Cohen that established the US Special Operations Command.
originally posted by: JimOberg
The guy speaks rationally and patiently, from a position where he should know, and from a lifetime's private fascination with the UFO subject. Very smooth, if it's all a charade. Very insightful and helpful, if not.
He speaks rationally and patiently is an opinion, I disagree. He was not in a position to know diddley squat really and if he has a lifetimes fascination with the subject he has not yet figured out the basics.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: JimOberg
Interesting thread Mr Oberg.
What I find difficult to believe is that for 70 years the US Government, it's allies and even our sworn enemies would keep the lid on a Cosmic Secret. Many nations now have the technology to scour the skies and even peer out into the galaxy.
In his interview he said most military witnesses don't report due to fear of being ridiculed...so do you think he would?
Do you not think there are people above him or don't you think those who do work on alien tech in black projects are public figures or even in contact with public figures in the government where things could be leaked out?
Also, it is totally uncharacteristic of the US military to conduct experimental tests of new vehicles over populated areas where security would be compromised and innocent civilians placed in harms way. That’s completely contrary to military DNA. Alien visitation is actually easier to believe than that level of stupidity being exhibited by the brilliant people developing new aircraft technologies for DoD.
In my experience, on those rare occasions when UFO incidents involving the government occur, they are highly inconvenient, awkward and embarrassing for the afflicted government officials who want nothing more than to put the issue behind them as quickly as possible! The military seems generally unwilling to investigate even when UFO reports come from our own military pilots or officials in high office such as Fife Symington, the former governor of Arizona. Senior officials are so fearful of being ridiculed that they conceal any expression of interest or curiosity.
If it were me, and I were trying to bury it deep, I’d take it outside government oversight entirely and place it in a compartment as a new entity within an existing defense company and manage it as what we call an “IRAD” or “Independent Research and Development Activity.”
The UFO mystery is a scientific problem.
He think's it's more logical for example the OHare Airport sighting was aliens and not some top secret stealth warcraft.