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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: Agartha

www.elixirs.com...


Homeopathy doesn't work and I can post recent studies about it if you want


Please do. and I am sure you have gone over the studies to confirm there were no vested interests and that the genuine salts were being used as the cell salts being used today are mainly made by chemical companies that are all connected to the pharmaceutical companies


So no evidence to back up any of your claims?



yes plenty of evidence its just going to take me a while again you are trying to twist my words why would you need to do that?
www.csicop.org...

and if people are going to try and misdirect people then that means that their motives are not to find out the truth and it is pointless me going through the net grabbing what I have already read. if people are just going to show me statistics which have no relation to anything as they are manipulated then what's the point

If you do not understand how this world works then how can we find the truth
Do you see where I am coming from?




posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: SaturnFX
The first person I look at on your link and I come across this LOL


If you are going to give me rubbish then at least make sure it doesn't have someone that works in the industry and would have first hand knowledge of it.

www.quackwatch.org...
Debbie was a registered nurse at the Kaiser hospital in Portland, Oregon, but she had a deep distrust of standard medical practice

Classic, honestly, defeating your own argument in one swoop, I'm going to look for some more now oh Debbie's cancer report on your quack site did not say what stage her cancer was at so why is your quack site not giving ALL the information? in order for people to judge these matters correctly we need all the info not just the parts used to fool people that don't actually know anything about how these things work, hiding information Is not a great way to win an argument and shows us that they are trying to mislead people do you set this or shall we talk about Nibiru?
Oh look the pharmaceutical industry that you are protecting seem to be infecting people with AIDS

This is a small report on the fraud that goes on within the industry you are protecting now if you cannot understand that the charts you are showing me cannot be manipulated then you need to have a look within as you are just trying to defend your ego.
www.uow.edu.au...

and this one is your beloved pharma companies infecting people with the AIDS virus and you want to trust these maniacs www.uow.edu.au... 2

And I will get hold of Sebis court case if that is possible so you can have absolute proof that sebi went into court and proved he cured these things just so you can't manipulate things with telling everyone that its a conspiracy site, I will also find out about your quackwatch site and see if it is linked to the pharma companies as I seem to remember that it was linked to them.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: jinni73

Please stop, i saw a movie once.. A little girl lived in a fantasy so her mind would not shatter into tiny pieces.. She died at the end..

If you believe in it, let it stay there.. If your imagination has a single chance of dealing more harm than good to a single person.. Then just keep it in your head..





And have you actually considered the possibility that maybe just maybe I know what I am talking about, How much study have you done on the pharmaceutical industry in fact do you know anything about this world as you seem only to be able to relate to stories and incorrect statistics.
and what about the people I have helped that the doctors couldn't would you tell them not to listen to me? as I think you might be looked at as rather strange



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 01:01 AM
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a reply to: jinni73

I have big library and its old.. I look at things different than you do..

Offer hope, do not offer a solution of falsehood called a miracle..



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: jinni73

I have big library and its old.. I look at things different than you do..

Offer hope, do not offer a solution of falsehood called a miracle..


There are no miracles its just simple understanding and not believing what companies use to make money, 10% of people will always die but 90% do not need to and this is not making up lies there are many ways to treat people not just the one which uses methods that are highly dubious.

I think the older knowledge is just as good as todays some of the studies carried out in the 40s to 60s are eye opening and some go completely against what the doctors are taught today like the operations removing 90% of peoples livers and as long as they survived the op they made full recoveries, yet doctors are taught the liver can only regenerate from 20%. I started reading a pharmacology book which is used by students and by the 30th page I had found 3 lies and that about sums up the pharmaceutical industry,
and if anyone wants me to prove that all diseases can be cured then email me and I will tell you what to do and where to go to get different types of things that are needed,
just buying a cool mist humidifier and adding in some 3% food grade Hydrogen Peroxide creates a hyper baric oxygen chamber, so instead of you paying out heaps to go to a specialised place (its 96 Aus dollars here for a 1 hour session) you can buy the humidifier for 50 dollars and then online you can buy a litre of HP for 25 dollars plus postage. if anyone has any lung problems just try this method while you sleep and see how you feel the next day. there are so many cheap ways of fighting disease and most people can be cured within a few days yet doctors will keep you coming back for months and all the while giving you drugs that deplete other nutrients out of your body its just insane but people want to show you stats and shout and rant at people who tell the truth about it.

and I know what you mean about false hope I have been researching Sebi some more and found one test imonial that goes against the proof but it seems things have changed and he does not attend people like he used to but his advice makes sense and food does cure people or at least the chemicals in the food (bladder and brain cancer the pharmaceutical industry use Frankincense oil for leukemia they use Madagascar periwinkle) yet you use there drugs and they are not good,
I know a girl who contracted leukemia after her son had a vaccine there were 7 other kids in the ward all suffering the same and only her son came out alive now this about 25 years ago If St Judes figures were true then about 50% should of come out alive especially as they say they share the information yet the specialists don't say they cure they only say they prolong the lives. this is the truth about them and there statistics


After an hour-long conversation in which he offered us hope with a treatment regimen that is prolonging many young lives, he reminded us of the hospital’s policy: if we were uninsured or our hospital did not offer the recommended treatment, St. Jude would take care of our daughter for free. And they’d foot our plane fares plus six weeks’ accommodation while she would be under their care.





and then there is this court case against the owner of quackwatch for defamation he has even had a go at mercola which I like as some of the things mercola comes out with are not on the level.
www.naturalnews.com... and I can't find the outcome of the case but it definitely seems that barrett needs to be using his trade on himself. web.archive.org...://bolenreport.com/feature_articles/Doctor's-Data-v-Barrett/discovery%20dam%20burst6.htm

It seems Mr Barrett a psychiatrist is intent on keeping up the charade that he is part of. psychiatry is another con that the pharmaceutical industry prey on, Russian studies used fasting to cure 70% of scitzophrenics. Fasting which is probably the most effective way of curing any disease.

Medicine is not to be trusted at least the medicine we know of as pharmacy, what the doctors practise today will be looked back in years to come as nothing other than genocide which is exactly what it is and it is hiding behind lies.

We need to look at what the body does when it is ill and aid that and curing people is pretty basic its not rocket science and the quack doctors that just Practice medicine should only be used to get a diagnosis.

If you look at the various cures for cancer like germanium and MMS they all deliver oxygen around the body cancer survives in an oxygen depleted environment Hydrogen Peroxide is amazing for curing cancer, Iodine and sodium bicarbonate also cure cancer these things costs virtually nothing compared to the pharmaceutical methods which can be thousands of dollars.
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: jinni73
a reply to: TerryDon79

This doctor who I can't remember was treating cancer for 48 years and he was photographing the germ, he proved there were only 3 types, I understand this extremely well and am not fooled by misdirection,

we need to look at the introduction of chemicals especially uranium and its decay products.



So now cancer is a germ??

You're talking bs with nothing to back it up with.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: jinni73
just buying a cool mist humidifier and adding in some 3% food grade Hydrogen Peroxide creates a hyper baric oxygen chamber, so instead of you paying out heaps to go to a specialised place (its 96 Aus dollars here for a 1 hour session) you can buy the humidifier for 50 dollars and then online you can buy a litre of HP for 25 dollars plus postage.


you say a lot of paranoid stuff, but that actually sounds like a interesting idea.
gonna check on that to see if thats how it works.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: jinni73
and if people are going to try and misdirect people then that means that their motives are not to find out the truth and it is pointless me going through the net grabbing what I have already read. if people are just going to show me statistics which have no relation to anything as they are manipulated then what's the point

If you do not understand how this world works then how can we find the truth
Do you see where I am coming from?


Oh, I understand how the world works very well, thank you. I am the one who has to look after patients who got really unwell trying all the quackery you are promoting.

You've posted two sites as evidence: one is a fringe site that examines the paranormal, another one is a homeopathy shopping site. You must be joking. We are talking about cancer here and you suggest salt and homeopathic preparations can cure it? Show me the evidence, real peer reviewed studies that showed what you are promoting works, studies that have been replicated, and then I'll believe it.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: jinni73
a reply to: TerryDon79

This doctor who I can't remember was treating cancer for 48 years and he was photographing the germ, he proved there were only 3 types, I understand this extremely well and am not fooled by misdirection,

we need to look at the introduction of chemicals especially uranium and its decay products.



So now cancer is a germ??

You're talking bs with nothing to back it up with.


You cannot change the truth mate
how about reading what I write and trying to prove it wrong! you can't as the truth is always the truth, so you are just making up statements that have no basis in reality.

and you can prove that cancer was not a germ can you? again I wait as I will remember the doctor

and my knowledge comes from 2 and a half years of intensive study and the fact that I have cured people where doctors hospitals can't!

Just because I can't remember the doctors name does not take away from the fact that he photographed 3 different types of cancers and that these were proven to be germs, the book stated he was practising medicine for 48 years between 1900 and 1948 now for all those with the power of discernment they will see that I have obviously read about this as I am being pretty specific and in fact it is not BS.


Today there are around one hundred different types of cancers, 20 of these are caused by fluoride the others by way of looking at the introduction of chemicals and withdrawal from the diet of iodine and oxygen are major contributing factors.
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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And I put right the quackery that goes on in the hospitals and you even see it, and then have the audacity to have a go at me

I was showing you what a cell salt was why are you trying to misdirect the conversation who gives a damn what site its on! this is just a book I am not interested what other pseudo rubbish they talk about I am only interested in the one line I am researching. issuu.com...

just because my words go against your profit driven world that is used to end peoples lives prematurely and if you cannot see that then I suggest you start opening your eyes to what is going on in your hospital.
I will give you a challenge research boron and magnesium these 2 elements would reduce the arthritis and broken bone admissions by 20% this is not quackery these are simple minerals that are being removed from our food chain by the use of chemical fertiliser.


I am the one who has to look after patients who got really unwell trying all the quackery you are promoting

But you also have to look after the people that have been poisoned by your own industry in fact and there are nowhere near the amount of people in there because of naturopaths that have been educated incorrectly compared to the people that are in there due to stopping their medications what's the real figure 10 or is it 15% of all people in hospital are there because they have suffered a reaction to stopping their meds.

I know there are naturopaths who are idiots and don't understand what the truth Is normally due to the teaching they have undertaken and bang on about soy or dairy products do you know how many endocrinologists tell people to take dairy products or milk to get fats in their diet do you know how dangerous dairy products are due to the pasteurisation and homogenising

get a nutritional leaflet that the hospitals give out to people I will show you all of the inaccuracies on it there are so many it is amazing.

what about the so called heart specialists that dispense furosemide when people have oedema and heart problems the furosemide depletes magnesium out of the heart (as well as other minerals but as long as the swelling goes down that's OK Is It?) which is essential for heart stability that is not a good way to treat people and shows that they are not experts at all.

I talk to Nurses and Doctors and they do not say what you are saying, how strange is that that they all tell me how screwed up the system is want some examples

Aspirin causes bleeding, damages the liver and poisons the system
Penicillin depletes B6 out of the body which causes Diabetes within 48 hours, damages the villi which then affects nutritional uptake boosts the Adrenal glands which if antibiotics keep getting prescribed will eventually give up and will kill the person.
Fluoride the number 1 cause of Cancer, Hypothyroidism and Skeletal Fluorosis which affects 50% of over 50s

and these are trumpeted as the greatest of medical breakthroughs

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:52 AM
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So now cancer is a germ??

You're talking bs with nothing to back it up with.


and the first photo that I find with a simple search which was taken in 1912 was not the doctor I was talking about

clickamericana.com...

www.forbes.com...

The science says about 15% of all todays cancers are caused by germs.
but they would not be able to survive if there was enough oxygen in the body.
chlorine is a major contributor of oxygen destruction in the body as the chemical reaction once it has destroyed the oxygen recycles itself back into chlorine therefore chlorine acts like an enzyme or an anti enzyme if you like

and then fluoride also destroys peroxidase and pancreatic enzymes by attacking the Hydrogen Ions
we will just stick this in the water and it will make them so ill they won't have any energy to fight us. but of course I'm just talking BS
www.slweb.org...

www.jbc.org...



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:29 AM
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I can prove cancer is not a germ.

What is cancer?

I know exactly what cancer is. I've lost 2 stepdads to it and my wife has it. Each had a different type of cancer.

How about you try backing up any of your bs claims with some evidence.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 05:33 AM
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You don't even read your links.

The first one about a study done over 100 years ago trying to figure out what cancer is. Dr Odin thought it was a germ. He was wrong.

The second link is ASKING if germs CAUSE cancer. Not that germs are cancer.



posted on May, 14 2016 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: jinni73

I can prove cancer is not a germ.

What is cancer?

I know exactly what cancer is. I've lost 2 stepdads to it and my wife has it. Each had a different type of cancer.

How about you try backing up any of your bs claims with some evidence.


as I said cancer was a bacteria before 1948 the doctor that I read about thought there were three types but it seems rifes more powerful microscope found there were 6 so sorry I said there were 3 but the doctor that I was referring to still had a 90% cure rate, Obviously due to the toxins in our environment today it is a lot more difficult but this just means you have to do a little more
educate-yourself.org...

and I draw your attention to this excerpt that maybe some people are supressing the truth especially the cancer industry.


As for the other researchers who have found the same microbial cause for cancer as Rife, they have all been persecuted, while their work has been maimed and discredited by the corrupt higher ruling circles of what currently passes for legitimate medicine and microbiology. Perhaps a brief review of the work of one victim is in order.


There are also studies that have confirmed rife had a 100% cure rate for cancer conducted in hospitals using his electronic generator not that that means you go out and buy a generator as since 1939 they do not work as they have changed them.

Wouldn't your energy be better spent in asking me how to cure your wife than fighting me in order to try and prove me wrong most people have no clue about this world and the misdirection and lies that are used.

Pharmaceutical grade sodium bicarbonate and 7% iodine is very effective in dealing with cancer as well as using distilled water as the normal waters are no good whether they be in a bottle or a tap. also eating organically grown food and not cooking it above 40c as it denatures the enzymes and your body has to provide them which take them away from your organs.



posted on May, 14 2016 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: jinni73

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: jinni73

I can prove cancer is not a germ.

What is cancer?

I know exactly what cancer is. I've lost 2 stepdads to it and my wife has it. Each had a different type of cancer.

How about you try backing up any of your bs claims with some evidence.


as I said cancer was a bacteria before 1948 the doctor that I read about thought there were three types but it seems rifes more powerful microscope found there were 6 so sorry I said there were 3 but the doctor that I was referring to still had a 90% cure rate, Obviously due to the toxins in our environment today it is a lot more difficult but this just means you have to do a little more
educate-yourself.org...
No. Cancer was not a germ. Cancer has never been a germ. People might have thought it was a germ, but it isn't.


and I draw your attention to this excerpt that maybe some people are supressing the truth especially the cancer industry.


As for the other researchers who have found the same microbial cause for cancer as Rife, they have all been persecuted, while their work has been maimed and discredited by the corrupt higher ruling circles of what currently passes for legitimate medicine and microbiology. Perhaps a brief review of the work of one victim is in order.


There are also studies that have confirmed rife had a 100% cure rate for cancer conducted in hospitals using his electronic generator not that that means you go out and buy a generator as since 1939 they do not work as they have changed them.
I'm sure there's hundreds lol. Care to share any of these studies? Or are they actually testimonials?


Wouldn't your energy be better spent in asking me how to cure your wife than fighting me in order to try and prove me wrong most people have no clue about this world and the misdirection and lies that are used.
Ive been around cancer for 27 years. I think I know what it is. My wife has cancer. I'm pretty sure she knows what it is too.


Pharmaceutical grade sodium bicarbonate and 7% iodine is very effective in dealing with cancer as well as using distilled water as the normal waters are no good whether they be in a bottle or a tap. also eating organically grown food and not cooking it above 40c as it denatures the enzymes and your body has to provide them which take them away from your organs.
Actually, that's bs. Bicarbonate of soda is not a cancer cure. Never has been. The only people that push it are the ones who believe Dr Sircus, who stole it from another doctor (Simoncini). That doctor then KILLED people while trying to "cure" them. Oh, he's also no longer a doctor.

So, where's these studies? Trust me, you won't be able to show a single study that proves bicarbonate of soda cures cancer.

ETA: If you're so sure about all this, why not make a thread? I'm sure we'd all like to see what your conclusions are.
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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 10:47 PM
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So, where's these studies? Trust me, you won't be able to show a single study that proves bicarbonate of soda cures cancer.


The study was carried out by me on a girl who had stage 4 breast cancer, who the doctors said was incurable but they could try radiation treatment.
She took 5 grams a day of pharma grade sodium bicarbonate which inhibits the fermentation process in yeast which the cancer feeds on and 2 grams a day of 7% lugols Iodine, the body uses the Iodine to kill cancer. the bicarb is taken half an hour before food and the iodine taken after food again half an hour.
She divided these amounts throughout the day to 5 doses in 5 ounces of distilled water of each substance. we cut out dairy meat and grains from her diet and only ate fruit and vegetables not grown in chemical fertiliser or had pestcides applied.

6 weeks and the cancer was completely gone as I said to agartha if you do not try and test these things then what chance have you got,
your knowledge is always going to be based on trusting another human and when I present a reference point for you to read and you refuse to read it and do any research yourself then you are only kidding yourself
But of course you want a scientific study that goes against a trillion dollar a year industry. the proof of the microbes was pointed to in the rife article I posted but you do not seem willing to educate yourself and would rather go against these reasons
and here's a link for those who do understand that our world is controlled by people who use people to make money
www.cancerdefeated.com...

•For research foundations and universities, it would mean the end of the 'gravy train' — research money for their institutions. •The great 'protectors of health' in the pharmaceutical industry would want to smash it because it would make drugs obsolete. •Oncologists, radiologists, and surgeons stand to lose $300,000 (and more) per cancer patient, so they would want it silenced. •Hospitals and big clinics would now have empty hospital beds, useless staff, and greatly reduced revenue, so why on earth would they want this cure?


If you want to believe the fake world that has been created that's fine by me but when I present evidence for you to read and you refuse to read it then you don't look too reliable as a proponent for cancer is not a germ.

If you want to protect an industry that is murdering people including your own family then it's your soul mate not mine. If you are genuine then its not hard to read this and work it out yourself
educate-yourself.org...


the evidence is documented in the barry lynes book but of course he only wrote the book to make money and there is no truth in it
The strongest microscopes today are not strong enough

Microscopes have come a long way since then—today's strongest compound microscopes have magnifying powers of 1,000 to 2,000X



Yet to see the cancer microbe or germ you need a lot more resolution rife achieved 23000
library.si.edu... theunhivedmind.com...

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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 11:29 PM
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Well I won't be going through all your bs again.

I asked for proof, you failed. There's no studies proving what you said. Therefore, you lied.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: jinni73

Well I won't be going through all your bs again.

I asked for proof, you failed. There's no studies proving what you said. Therefore, you lied.


Umm OK, LOL

and what are these studies you require my friend are they to be found on pubmed? or the one you can test yourself?

maybe the proof you require could be looked at as testing what I said, you get the Iodine on altcancer.org although I do not know why I am still helping you.

and another article with the proof you do not want to read again in the same article that you did not read in the first place and then continue to insult me.
educate-yourself.org...


Dr. Virginia Livingston-Wheeler in 1947, while studying tumors, found the same organism in all of them. Her findings were published in August 1948 by the New York Microscopical Society Bulletin. Later in Dec. 1950, Wheeler had an article published in the American Journal of Medical Sciences on microbes cultures taken from both human and animal tumors. On Sept. 10, 1953 The Washington Post reported the discoveries of Dr. Wheeler and her team from Rutgers-Presbyterian Hospital Laboratory which were disclosed at the 6 th International Congress of Microbiology in Rome. They had found conducive proof of a microbial cause for cancer. When Dr. Wheeler and her group returned from Rome to Rutgers-Presbyterian Hospital they found that the funds for their laboratory were being cut off. The laboratory was closed. This was the behind-the-scenes work and doings of Dr. Corneluis P. Rhoads, the head of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. The fear of the cancer industry elite is and was immense. If the truth about the true cause of cancer becomes known, a cheap cure will be found shortly thereafter. This will kill the cancer goose which lays tens of billions of dollars worth of eggs a year. Is there nothing these scum will not do for their god money? No


You see when people only throw insults about they could be looked at as having another agenda especially when anyone that can read can see that cancer is a germ and that information is being covered up. I do feel sorry for people like you and please stop insulting me its not conducive to a happy life as it only rebounds back on you.
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posted on May, 15 2016 @ 11:43 PM
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The would be the studies you said exist.


There are also studies that have confirmed rife had a 100% cure rate for cancer conducted in hospitals using his electronic generator not that that means you go out and buy a generator as since 1939 they do not work as they have changed them.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

we are all responsible for ourselves if you cannot do the work yourself then what chance do you have. your wife is suffering from cancer and you can't be bothered to research what I am providing to you.

www.rife.de...
www.rife.de...



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