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All my life I have been a Christian. According to Islam, I will burn in hell. Is this true?

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Joecanada11BUT STILL YOU WONT ADMIT YOUR CLAIM WAS NOT TRUE. YOU CLAIMED. "GOD SAID HOMOSEXUALITY WAS AN ABOMINATION.". NOWHERE IN THE PARTS OF THE BIBLE YOU DO ACCEPT DOES IT EVER QUOTE THAT HE SAID THAT!
A normal logical mind would have at least admitted they MAY be in error but then again your not logically normal.

Oh that's right you don't believe ALL the bible. Only the parts you agree with and want to apply to everyone. My bad I forgot. But hey, at least you know the truth and if you hold the truth in unrighteousness then you are right there.




posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: Joecanada11

But see you have a version which has over 15k omissions. I used the preserved word of God which has all the verses in it. If men are dishonest enough to remove how much more when they translate.

My Bible also does not have the word homosexual in it. so quote those perverted bibles all day. God still never said what you say he said. those versions were created by men motivated to make a for profit. Money is the root of ALL evil.

Do you look for a bible that men have made god say something he did not so it suits your agenda.

I stick to one, the preserved word with all the verses in it. And it say you and those versions re wrong



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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Hell was made up . You all are aware of this, right?



The myth of hell developed steadily after Yeshua's death in 30 CE, but it does not appear in the Old Testament, the New Testament, Yeshua's teachings, the Acts of the Apostles, Paul's epistles, or the other epistles in the canon. The explanation of how it developed in the church follows. Paul and the early church had a dilemma. The Jewish Yeshua and those in the Jerusalem church, especially James, Yeshua's brother, held a traditional conception of the Messiah. The Messiah would be a man, perhaps descended from David, who would be anointed by God to rout the occupying army, the Romans, and establish an earthly kingdom of God (or Kingdom of Israel). It would be presided over by God's elect, but God would be the supreme ruler. It would be a theocracy. Some envisioned a new Kingdom of Heaven separate from the earth. The 12 tribes of Israel would be the citizens and beneficiaries of this kingdom. All Jews in the Diaspora would move to Israel. Some believed all other people on Earth would live normally, but be so drawn by the quality of life in the Jewish kingdom of God that they would convert and eventually, all of humanity would be Jewish. Others believed the rest of humankind would be eliminated, leaving only the Jews.


30ce.com...



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: EveryUsernameWasTaken
I have personal experiences with Islam which have indicated I am in really trouble for my beliefs. I believe a core value we should embrace is love for each other (subtext: respect, patience, tolerance, charity and humility). I learned this from my Chrsitian beliefs. Although I fail on a daily basis, I try hard to remember these things in my daily life. Do Muslims truly believe I am destined for hell?


Yes, Muslims DO believe you are destined for Hell. They also believe if they commit suicide by blowing themselves up and taking a few "infidels" with them that they will go directly to Heaven and have 72 virgins gifted to them. Why would you even CARE what they believe?

I don't know about the Quran but in the Holy Bible NOWHERE does it say when you die you will go directly to Hell- Do not pass go, do not collect 200. That is a construct of MAN in an attempt to have power and control over the population through FEAR.

Your spirit knows the truth that you have forgotten. Meditate, pray for guidance, burn some incense, have a picnic by a tree near a pond- do whatever it is that makes you feel close to your idea of God- and feel the truth!



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: Onesmartdog
Hell was made up . You all are aware of this, right?


Yup. I like to say that Hell is a 404 (Not Found).



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Joecanada11

But see you have a version which has over 15k omissions. I used the preserved word of God which has all the verses in it. If men are dishonest enough to remove how much more when they translate.

My Bible also does not have the word homosexual in it. so quote those perverted bibles all day. God still never said what you say he said. those versions were created by men motivated to make a for profit. Money is the root of ALL evil.

Do you look for a bible that men have made god say something he did not so it suits your agenda.

I stick to one, the preserved word with all the verses in it. And it say you and those versions re wrong



ChesterJohn, you need to get the beam of the imperfect KJV out of your eye before you can help Joecanada11 with the Biblical mote in his eye.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: Lazarus Short

I Just love it when people who don't believe the word of God try and be self righteous and want to try and make quotes from partial bible verses like they are the Christ rebuking Pharisees.

Good luck with that.

Find me a Bible that has all the verses in it like the AV does I might consider it but until then the AV is the Bible for me.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Lazarus Short

I Just love it when people who don't believe the word of God try and be self righteous and want to try and make quotes from partial bible verses like they are the Christ rebuking Pharisees.

Good luck with that.

Find me a Bible that has all the verses in it like the AV does I might consider it but until then the AV is the Bible for me.


It's good that it has all the verses, but that is not enough. The AV/KJV is a doctrine-driven translation. Words are mistranslated to fit doctrine, rather than for true meaning. The New World Translation follows the same path, but with different doctrines, and worse results. I actually discovered this while consulting my KJV's center-column references. For instance, I would read "Hell" in the text, see that it had a footnote, look at the reference, see that it said "or Hades," proceed to Strong's or my OED, and find that "Hades" is the exact Greek equivalent for "Sheol," the Hebrew word for the realm of the dead. Thus, I discovered in instance after instance that "Hell" is an unjustified insertion into the text. This creates a "Gospel" of fear, when the true Gospel is one of love. It also drives many into disbelief, for many people are unwilling to worship or believe in a God who sends anyone to Hell. Heresy and error, I say.

Do you begin to see why I consider the AV/KJV imperfect?
edit on 19-5-2016 by Lazarus Short because: whee!



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Lazarus Shortyou opinions mean nothing to me and does not change my faith that God kept his promise to preserve ALL his words to all generations in Psalm 12:6, 7



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 10:37 AM
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OK, so I assume that you believe in a forever-burning Hell in spite of my demonstrating that it is a deliberate mistranslation, a sleight-of-hand?

Tell me, how did you come to accept the precepts of the KJV-only theology?



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: Lazarus Short

I am not a KJV Only. I own 30 plus versions and have used as many as 15 more online.

I only believe that the AV is the preserved word of God, because God said he would do so to all generations forever, it is the only English version with all the verses intact, it has a supernatural cross-reference build in by the words, phrases and verses of its text, and it can define any English word in it by its context.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Would God, Who cannot lie, allow the deliberate mistranslation from Sheol, Hades and Gehenna to Hell, if He had purposed to give us His perfect Word in English?

BTW, is a Young's Literal Version among those 30+?



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: Lazarus ShortThat is yours and others opinions. God preserved his words into English. Regardless of what any old unverifiable copies in the original languages say.

You either believe he did preserve it or he didn't it is a matter of Faith in God keeping his word to preserve his words forever.



edit on 21-5-2016 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: EveryUsernameWasTaken

I'm sorry, but do you REALLY care...if you do, WHY?



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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I see that this is a touchstone issue for you, so I'll move on.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 12:41 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
My Bible also does not have the word homosexual in it. so quote those perverted bibles all day. God still never said what you say he said. those versions were created by men motivated to make a for profit.

The first recorded use of the word "homosexual" is from 1892. Of course your Bible does not have the word homosexual in it.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: babloyiThe AV does not need to have that word. For God does not communicate in such vulgar terms. that is why it is not said in the terms God inspired and preserved.




edit on 22-5-2016 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

It doesn't need to use the word homosexuality. It still condemns the act of it using other words.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

And it is purely yours and others opinion that the AV is the preserved word.




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