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Planned Parenthood Condom Conspiracy

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posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 08:41 AM
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Yes, this is Worldnetdaily ... but they have an interesting point -

Planned Parenthood makes money through abortion. It's one of
their major money making operations. They are anti-abstenance
and now it looks like they push the condoms with the worst
record. WHY? Because they want to make money through their
abortuaries - where 1/3 of Planned Parenthood's (PPFA) money
is made. BTW - they also make money selling the tissue and
body parts of the recently killed children .

www.worldnetdaily.com...

By Alan Sears
WorldNetDaily.com
Jan 14, 2005

Three condom types distributed by PPFA were tested. Those condoms finished 14th, 22nd, and 23rd (again, out of 23 types tested). In fact, the PPFA condoms that ranked 22nd and 23rd were the only condoms rated "poor" on strength.

The Consumer Reports article highlights the Consumers Union's view of the importance of such tests, claiming that "condoms remain the only [pregnancy prevention] method that also can help prevent sexually transmitted diseases [STDs], including HIV."

- inexplicably, PPFA's top performing condom in the study – called the Lollipop – finished in 14th place. Is it possible that the prevention of pregnancy and the preservation of life by condom use is not really Planned Parenthood's top priority?

- The Honeydew (what a name!) condom had the worst score of all 23 condoms tested. According to the report, it was given an overall rating of poor "because its strength was so low compared with the rest." Planned Parenthood's response was first to order new tests – which magically transformed the results to excellent – and second, to offer what was rated by Consumers Union as a substandard condom in new colors.

Studies such as the one reported by Consumer Reports – who we learn has its own connections with the world of abortion advocacy (headline: "Consumer Reports CEO led Planned Parenthood") –

READ MORE AT THE ARTICLE -
www.worldnetdaily.com...


[edit on 1/14/2005 by FlyersFan]

[edit on 14-1-2005 by astrocreep]




posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 08:53 AM
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Condoms just like any other birth control is not safe, pills are the closes to be good if you take them the way they should.

Now about the aborted fetuses, I know stem cells are taken from them but I did not know that other body parts are taken, and this most be from late term abortions because the early term is no body to take out.

The organs are not good enought for transplants on late term, or I am mistaken.



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 08:53 AM
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They are given out free, like candy. I suspect economics plays a more important part than any conspiracy.



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
pills are the closes to be good if you take them the way they should.
I did not know that other body parts are taken,


Ref the pill - I read a booklet called 'infant homicides through
contraceptives'. It was very interesting. Did you know that
one of the major ingredients in the pill is made by the same
company that made the deadly NAZI gasses that killed the
Jews in the concentration camps in WWII? That's right.
The company that helped gas and murder 6 million jews
(and hundreds of thousands of Catholics, mentally handicapped,
and physically handicapped people) - has a hand in stopping
life in people through the pill.

Interesting deathly legacy.

Yes, body parts and tissue from abortions are sold to
pharmacutical companies for experimentation. The poor little
dears who just died a painful death endorsed by his/her
mother ... now has his/her body and tissue being experiemented
on by big business.

Planned Parenthood makes big $$ in abortion, through the
front door when women come in, and through the back door
when the dead children are sold.



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by dixon
economics plays a more important part than any conspiracy.


It's an economic conspiracy. They don't tell the public
what they are doing ... watering down certain products
so that people will be utilizing Planned Parenthood's
major money maker ... abortion.



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 09:10 AM
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I took pills for many years, before and between pregnancies I do not regret them, but after my second child I decided that I wanted to keep my body in a natural state as much as possible just a personal choice.

Now is a shame that our society allows big business on body parts, is to profitable to let it go and is not only in the US but all over the world, now here we have some guide lines on other countries is indiscriminately in other words they kill for body parts.



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 09:37 AM
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I my opinion, its all about the evil in the world. What better way than to strike at the very picture of purety and innocence? Why else would we see these monsters abduct and kill children? Why else would it be said that of all the human tissue, that of unborn or newborn children would be the only tissue viable for research? Why else would we see an institution who's stated goal is to stop unwanted pregnacy push defective condoms and abortion? To what end would anyone need to cause the suffering brought on children by these practices? Could any of us imagine a death so horrid and painful? I can't. Not without a total meltdown. I guess I'm not as cold and tough as some.



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 12:58 PM
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Flyersfan,

If you are referring to the morning after pill as some sort of abortion pill you are horribly misinformed. Right on the package the morning after pill plainly states if you are already pregnant It will not work. That is why you have to take it within 72 hours. Yes their fishbowl of free condoms is like playing russian roullette, but hey if you are using free condoms you get what you pay for. Bashing planned parenthood though is very irresponsible of you, yes in most states they offer abortion. But they also offer low cost options for birth control pills, low cost care for pregnant women who have every intention to bring their child to term, and they offer counselling and referrences to adoption services. By picking out one thing you don't like from an organization that really is the salvation of many under priviliged women you are doing yourself and everyone that reads your posts a disservice by posting your heavilly biased views as facts.

That and by your screenname I am assuming you are a male. Being a male myself I would feel totally wrong taking one side or another on the abortion issue because it is the females choice. We males at best have very little to do with the whole issue until a child is born.



posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by astral_ice
If you are referring to the morning after pill as
some sort of abortion pill you are horribly misinformed.

Bashing planned parenthood though is very irresponsible of you,

That and by your screenname I am assuming you are a male.


NO, WRONG and WRONG.

I am not a guy. You assumed wrong. It says 'tired mom' right
below my avatar. That was rather sexist of you ... assuming
a sports fan (hockey!!) was a guy.

First - Bashing planned parenthood is not very irresponsible of
me. However, your backing them IS very irresponsible of YOU.
They money making racket known as 'planned parenthood' is
really a cash-for-corpses operation. They don't plan parenthood.
They are in the business of murdering children and selling the
body parts. Their own annual report says they make 1/3 of
their money through abortions and just about as much through
donations. Thats what they themselves say!
They do absolutely no good for society. None.
The absolutely make their money through abortions and
by selling the tissues and body parts of the murdered children.
They don't make families through adoption services ... they
murder children. Pure and simple. And as far as your comment
that they offer low cost birth control to poor women and that
they are their 'salvation' ... nope. But they could be their
damnation. Don't bother pointing to 1 or 2 % of things they
might get right. Those very few and far between cases don't
save Planned Parenthood.

No I am not referring to the morning after pill. I am absolutely
referring to THE Pill. However, since you bring up RU486, they
too are a product which could be included in the death drug list.

Mifepristone (RU-486), onapristone, lilopristone and other analogs,
and epostane; and the progesterones: depot Medroxyprogesterone
acetate (Depo-Provera, DMPA injectable; NET-EN injectable; Cyclo-
Provera injectable; HRP-102 injectable; Norplant implant; and the
anti-hCG Vaccine all have Roussel-Uclaf in it's manufacturing. RU
is a subsidiary of Hoechst AG of Frankfurt Germany and sister
company to Hoechst America of Sommerville, NJ. France owns
36% of RU. 54% of RU is owned by Hoechst AG whichis a spin-off
company of the chemical giant IG Farben which producted the
ZYKLON B gas for the Nazi camps in WWII.

RU486, onapriston, lilopristone and similar congeners prevent
uptake of progesterone necessary in early stages of pregnancy.
The antiprogeserones are abortifacient only up to 49 days post
LMP (63 days past fertilization).

Epostane is an experimental anti-progesterone owned by
Winthrop-Sanofi (eastman kodak). This works by causing the body
to slogh off the fertilized embryo (BABY) from the endometrium.

Norplant has been found time and time again (in studies) to be
only 45-65% effective in suppression of ovulation. Newly concieved
babies die in mass numbers through Norplant - without the poor
mothers ever knowing that they have killed their children by
using this chemical implant.

The IUD doesn't stop contraception... it does cause the newly
concieved child (5 - 15 days old in the womb) to be sloghed off
and 'miscarried' (killed). The women who have just killed their children
by using the IUD don't even know that they were pregnant.

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Facts on THE PILL -
From Infant Homicides through Contraceptions
Eternal Life
Bardstown KY

Oral contraceptives have a breakthrough ovulation rate of 2 - 10 %
(Peel and Potts, 1969). This figure varies with the author in question.
For example, one study with 7low dose oral contraceptives found an
ovulation rate of 4.7% (Van der Vange, 1986). In 1990 the Ortho
Corporation's annual report on oral contraceptive usage estimated
13.9 million US woman using oral contraceptives.

A 2% rate yields 278,000 ovulatory cycles based on the above user
estimate. We also know that in any given cycle there is a 25%
overall conceptin rate for normally fertile couples of average sexual activity
(Kippley, 1986). Multiplying the two yields a result of 69,500 chemical
(the pill) abortions per cycle or 834,000 per year.

A 10% rate yields 1,390,000 ovulatory cycles times the 25% conception
rate for a resulting 347,500 chemical abortions per cycle or 4,170,000
per year. Thus we have a range of 834,000 to 4,170,000 abortions
(through the pill) annually.
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So ... Planned Parenthood is the 'savior' of poor women?
Obviously not.





[edit on 1/15/2005 by FlyersFan]

[edit on 1/15/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 02:09 PM
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This is all off topic from the original title of this thread -
That Planned Parenthood pushes the birth control's that
they do ... because they know they don't work well
and they want to make money through abortion and the
selling of the tissues and body parts for experimentation.

However, since it was posted that Planned Parenthood is
'the savior' of poor women because they give them low
cost 'health care' I thought I'd continue to post a few stats
on what exactly Planned Parenthood is pushing ... and just
how reliable those products really are. (they aren't at all)

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Depo-Provera (DMPA) information

Based on an estimated 1,000,000 users and an ovulation rate of 40-60%
(Belsey, 1988), we can determine at the lower rate there are 400,000
ovulatory cycles times a 25% conception rate yielding about 100,000
chemical abortions per cycle or 1,200,000 per year.

At the 60% rate, we have 600,000 ovulatory cycles times 25% conception
rate equalling 150,000 chemical abortions per cycle or 1,800,000 per year.

NORPLANT information

There are an estimated 1,500,000 users (mostly poor women). This
according to Wyeth-Ayerst, the US distributor. They say the ovulation
rate is 50-65% (higher in some studies).

At a 50% ovulation rate we have 750,000 ovulatory cycles times a 25% conception rate equalling 187,500 chemical abortions per cycle or
2,250,000 per year.

At a 65% ovulation rate we have 957,000 ovulatory cycles times a 25% conception rate or 293,750 chmical abortions per cycle or 2, 925,000
per year.

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Calculated Annual Infant Homicides of Unborn Children in USA -
(based on the studies that were quoted, and others, about
cycle breakthroughs.)


The Pill - 834,000 - 4,170,000
IUD - 3,825,000
Depo-Provera 1,200,000 - 1,800,000
Norplant - 2,250,000 - 2,925,000



posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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Just one, of MANY articles about Planned Parenthood
selling body parts from the murdered children.

(Planned parenthood denies it .. but ...

www.nrlc.org...

PPFA Supplies Fetal Body Parts for Experimentation
By Randall K. O'Bannon, Ph.D.
NRL Education Director

Those who tuned into ABC's news weekly 20/20 on March 8, 2000, watched as correspondent Chris Wallace produced evidence of what he termed "a thriving industry in which aborted fetuses women donate to help medical research are being marketed for hundreds, even thousands of dollars." Wallace interviewed several people involved in the harvesting of fetal body parts and produced a price list from one firm, Opening Lines, offering fetal spinal cords for $325, fetal reproductive organs for $550, fetal brains for $999 (if less than eight weeks), and the like.

Those who read Feldt's (President of Planned Parenthood) statements as
a repudiation of the practice of dissecting aborted babies and using their
body parts for research are mistaken. Not only does Planned Parenthood
support the harvesting of baby parts for research, but it actually also has
at least one clinic that helped supply aborted babies to firms featured in
Wallace's 20/20 report.

...... more report ...... then this -

Such firms, apparently, circumvent the law, not by charging researchers for the actual aborted babies' organs, but by charging fees for collecting, processing, or shipping the fetal body parts. Planned Parenthood, in turn, collects money by "renting" office and storage space to the firms collecting and dissecting the babies aborted at the clinic (and presumably saves money related to the disposal of the corpses).

Thus, while no one actually "buys" or "sells" the aborted babies or their organs, everyone is able to collect money- - 1except for the mother who gives up her aborted baby for "research."



[edit on 1/15/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 02:25 PM
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Sorry about the male thing flyersfan, honestly didn't see the tired mom part. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on what constitutes an abortion, I just don't see the pill as anything to be up in arms over. I also don't see the wisdom in Iud's or depo Provera both of those scare me because of articles I've read.
And yes as a female I do see your views as more valid than mine... however I don't believe you or people like you should have the right to prevent other people from using birth control because you have issues with it.



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by astral_ice
what constitutes an abortion
yes as a female I do see your views as more valid than mine...
don't have a right to prevent other people from using birth control


What contitutes an abortion - the killing of pre-born human life.

As a female my views are NOT more valid than your male views.
Not at all. Data is data ... having a male or female mind to
analyze it doesn't change facts.

The purpose of this thread wasn't to prevent people from using
birth control. (notice it isn't called conception control because a
large chunk of the time, conception is still allowed to take place
with many of these birth control devices). The purpose of this
thread was to show that Planned Parenthood pushes those
forms of birth control that they know are not really controlling
conception, or that don't do a good job, so that they can make
money through abortions of those newly concieved children that
they have had a hand in allowing to be concieved.

The only reason I posted the failure rates of the birth control
was to show that often times it's the poor people who have
had the garbage birth control pushed on them ... just to have
them have to pay money for abortions later. THEY aren't being
helped by Planned Parenthood or anyone else when they are
having weak condoms given to them, or Norplant etc.

You mentioned that Planned Parenthood helps poor people with
birth control. I was showing that the birth control they 'help' with
is really junk and causes more problems down the line.



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 07:44 AM
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One question, if you are against the condoms, pills and any type of contraceptives then what do you suggest our sexually active society do to control unwanted pregnancies.

People will never stop sexual activity that is a personal choices to have sex or not.

Its also a personal choice to used any way of control to stop pregnancy.

Women can not become cattle and produce a child every time they have sex without birth control of any kind.

As noble as your intentions are, the reality is that sex will continue and birth control is better than unwanted pregnancies or an abortion.

You can not condemn anybody that does not desire a child at a certain time in their lives.

I have two children that is what I wanted and I am glad that I had the choice to have control over how many pregnancies I had.

Women have the right alone with a partner to chose how many lives they want to bring into this world and how well care these lives will be.

We have plenty of unwanted children in our country that spend their lives in foster care because nobody wants them, now is that fair for these children?

[edit on 16-1-2005 by marg6043]



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 03:15 PM
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Thank you Marg,

You said what I was trying to say, I just get a little pissed when people rag on planned parenthood. Yeah I know the history of the organization, I also know that they don't exactly have good motives for doing what they are doing. But all of that does not change the fact that they do offer services that you are free to pick and choose from at prices that make them a godsend to those without good insurance.
I also agree with your statement about women being able to control whether they want a child or not... Like it or not men don't and probably shouldn't have too much of a choice whether a woman wants a child at that point. In an ideal world a man and a woman would sit down and discuss whether it was the right time to breed, however this is not an ideal world. A good portion of my generation has been raised by single parents or been plain unwanted, because of this a good portion of my generation is trying to do it different.
I mean maybe flyers doesn't know the hurt of being told you were an accident, and that your parents life would have been much better if you had been born later. But I do, and yeah it has affected me, it sure as hell made me determined to NEVER be the cause of an accident child.



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
One question, if you are against the condoms, pills
and any type of contraceptives then what do you
suggest our sexually active society do to control
unwanted pregnancies.


I suggest that they be given BETTER CHOICES or
at the very least be told exactly what happens when
they use the different birth controls. Our system
has to come up with better choices.

Such as ... Planned Parenthood doesn't have to
endorse the condom that is #22 down the list
in regards to contraception performance. Why
can't they endorse the #1 ???

This is what I'm trying to get at .. they are pushing
things that don't work and you know that they know
that these things don't work well. It's so that they
can get more money on the flip side.



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 06:13 PM
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FlyersFan

I understand your concern we in this country has been poison by everyday drugs and prescribed drugs also, all you have to see if the recalls on TV.

Is a shame that most pharmaceuticals will hide the truth to the consumers, so they can make money.

When I took my pills I never asked a question and by the time I recognized that they were not the best for me, it was after 8 years of use.



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 02:50 AM
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when I was a teenager I went to planed parenthood and they had the same condoms as what was being sold in the stores.

I guess that was a teenage lucky streak.



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan


First - Bashing planned parenthood is not very irresponsible of
me. However, your backing them IS very irresponsible of YOU.


How HYPOCRITICAL and high minded of you, miss high holy mommy, to take such a nose up in the air stance. You obviously are completely clueless of what Planned Parenthood does, or the necessity of it for poor, screwed up single women, who in the SUV driving world of the holier than thou, probably dont even classify as human beings.

Since you yourself have decided to remain ignorant of planned parenthood and what it does, I shall have to educate you, I see.

I had a friend in high school. She was a mess. Dopehead from hell. Drop-out. She got knocked up. She was 14. She was poor, sharing a one bedroom apartment with her very poor, overworked, and never there mother. She went and had an abortion, which was the smartest thing she could have done. Seeing how her mother could barely support the two of them, and the father of the kid was 14 as well.

Being poor, and not having the luxury of health insurance, she went in to Planned Parenthood and had it done. But, they didnt stop there. They also couseled her on the necessity of birth control, and prescribed her the pill after it was done, so she did not have to go through yet another abortion. Since abstainence for this little cookie was totally out of the question, birth control pills became the best option for her. She took them, and never had another pregancy. Later on, she cleaned up. And she decided, hmmmm, I dont want kids at all. And taking the pill all the time is such a hassle, i want to get sterilized. Well, again, being poor and non human, obviously she couldnt go to a doctor and get it done, no. once again, she was able to get her tubes permanantly tied through planned parenthood. Now she never has to worry about it, and is very happy she has had it done.

So there goes your goofy little myth that Planned Parenthood is there to make money off abortions. If they were, they wouldnt have counseled and assisted her from getting pregant in the futre, as taking the pill and getting sterilized would pretty much kill any future business.

Planned Parenthood is there for girls and women like her, those that are too poor, have no insurance, and certainly dont get any help from such "upstanding" and "moral" citizens such as yourself. It is because such places exist, that my friend does not now have an 18 year old son doing three consecutive life sentances for murder, or a daughter who is popping out her 4th kid whose gonna do about as well as her mom did.

Planned Parenthood takes care of those who simply dont have the luxury of stable marriages, stable homes, incomes, or pampering families who have financial stability. They give out birth control to those women who simply cannot afford it so they dont have to go through an abortion. The condoms are there just as a give away, planned parenthood deals in many other birth control methods, all whi9ch are made available for women who cannot have children.

And they provide abortion as a last resort if all else fails, or for those girls who simply were not aware that cheap or free birth control was available.

Now go back to your comfy little house in the burbs, since because of organizations like planned parenthood, the burden of taking care of those low income white trash bimbos has been lifted off your holy back.




posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

How HYPOCRITICAL and high minded of you,... blah blah blah

Since you yourself have decided to remain ignorant of
planned parenthood and what it does, I shall have to educate
you, I see.

Now go back to your ....


Hey
If you had bothered to read all the posts you wouldn't
have embarressed yourself with all the
garbage. You are
obviously an un educated anti-middle-class- bigot. People who don't
like Planned Parenthood think single women aren't human? You are a
freak.
Get a life. We are talking about how poor women are given
less than adequate birth control through Planned Parenthood
(and other places). If we didn't care, we wouldn't be discussing
it. So STFU until you read the entire thread and YOU get your
holier than thou nose out of the air. If you want to discuss something
in an adult fashion in the future, fine. But coming on here with that
attitude and tossing taunts and jeers means that's all you'll get
shoved back in your face. loser.

Since you yourself have decided to remain ignorant of
planned parenthood and what it does, I shall have to educate
you, I see. Go back and re-read the thread. You will see that
Planned Parenthood itself admits that it makes 1/3 of it's
money through abortion.

Now YOU go back to your dark little hole in the wall where you
can be happy dreaming up anti-middle-class-American myths and
insults in your muddled and broken little mind.



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