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If Bernie loses and supports Clinton instead of Trump, he's a shill

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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

every politician is a shill.....grow up,get over it,we all know it's all rigged.And there is no tooth fairy or santa.




posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

None of those things are accurately portrayed.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Right but everything Trump stands for goes against the establishment.


Everything Trump has SAID during this campaign stands against the establishment, but if you look at his words and ACTIONS before this campaign, you'll learn more about just how "Inside" he is. He's steeped in the Washington game. He's even said so himself.



Trump was asked, given his donations to both Republicans and Democrats, “Aren’t you part of the problem?” When it comes to lobbying and influence-peddling. He responded, Absolutely. 100%. Absolutely, I was on the other side. They will do whatever I want. Up until you decide to run.”

Trump denied that this was hypocritical, and stated, “it’s called playing the game. I was a businessman. I made a fortune. I made a lot of money. I posted over $10 billion.”

Cooper then asked, “So, in order to make money, it’s okay to play the game?” Trump answered, “Well, it’s called your life. I mean, I’m a businessman. And I contribute to people. And they treat me nicely, and everything else.” He added that he understands the “culture” of money for access and that “Every one of those lobbyists that gives money, they expect something for it.”


Source

What, about wealthy people paying money to politicians and hiring lobbyists, is "anti-establishment"?



Since the 1980s, he has lavished both parties with money. He’s employed D.C. lobbyists and aggressive tactics to influence politicians and further his business interests. He’s become comfortable enough with Washington to buy a nearby golf course and develop a hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue, blocks from the White House, in conjunction with the federal government.

Even as he rails against corruption in American politics, his long history with Washington and lobbying raises questions about his promises to change the system of influence-peddling he has participated in for decades.


Donald Trump: Washington Insider
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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:35 PM
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Trump is not anti-establishment and neither are his supporters. As soon as Trump is president they will become extreme establishment nationalists calling everyone who oppose them anti-American.


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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

I'll take your word for it.

Trump is establishment because he's rich and I'm not.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Sanders will shill for Hillary because they are both for big government, socialist/communist ideals.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Yeah he was paying them off.

He knows the system better than anyone who better to fight against it?



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I think he simply wants to become the establishment- and once he does... He's already indicated the military and everyone else will do what he says. So they all become authoritarian nationalists.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Yeah he was paying them off.

He knows the system better than anyone who better to fight against it?


So he is also a criminal that engaged in bribery?

Add that to his plan to extort Mexico to pay for the wall and we have a true American politician.

Perhaps the FBI can investigate all that after they are done with Hillary's emails.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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He voted with Clinton 93% of the time in Senate. He pretty much supports most of the same positions.
And if you want Sanders own words on the matter last month he said


Kind of ends that debate eh?


Not really, but adds credibility to him being a phony from the beginning.

He talks about how corruption and money is a big contributor to the countries problems and nobody is a greater example of that corruption and lobbying prostitution than Hillary.

So if he endorses Hillary than yes, it certainly will end the debate of him being a Phony all along.

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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:01 PM
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I agree with this. Except for absurd notion of voting for Trump or Clinton.

It took a lot for me to support Sanders considering my serious concerns about his ideas of foreign policy, however I set those aside because out of anyone I think he is the only one who would attempt to real in the military industrial complex and would have the support necessary to do so from the public.

Not sure if you saw this, but Jill Stein of the Green party has invited him to join her and the Green party and run third party if the DNC snubs him out. I find this to be an amazing opportunity for Sanders to truly revolution the political process. What we need more than anything is not the "revitalization" of the DNC, we need our third parties to get involved in the process, especially the Green party and the Libertarian party.

This could be a game changer

This could truly awaken the astounding numbers of apathetic independents who have given up on the political process and could very easily over take Trump's totalitarianism and Clintons oligarchy!
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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:03 PM
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CBS NEWS April 7, 2016 Bernie Sanders: I attacked Hillary Clinton because she attacked me ROSE: Come November 2016, if Hillary Clinton is the nominee you will be supporting her? SANDERS: Sure, I will. Look, as I said a million times, I think the idea of a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country. I will do everything in my power and work as hard as I can to make sure that that does not happen. And if Secretary Clinton is the nominee, I will certainly support her.


Bernie Sanders

I think it's pretty clear who Bernie will be supporting this election.

However, I wouldn't stray so far as to claim Donald is anti-establishment, maybe the perception of his supporters but definitely not for real.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: onequestion

Sanders will shill for Hillary because they are both for big government, socialist/communist ideals.


However, he shouldn't because he is against lobbying prostitution and corruption which Hillary is the poster child for.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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He could just not support anyone.

It would be the only principled approach.

It's what Rand Paul did.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
He could just not support anyone.

It would be the only principled approach.

It's what Rand Paul did.


I wouldn't use Rand as a beacon of principle. He sold-out his own father.

As far as Bernie, he already said he would endorse Clinton.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: interupt42

Bernie has been in DC for over 30 years.

To call him innocent is like trying to find a virgin at a strip joint.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:29 PM
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Bernie has been in DC for over 30 years. To call him innocent is like trying to find a virgin at a strip joint.


Never said he was innocent.

However out of all the bozos in the running ,he was the only one focusing primarily on corruption and monetary influences. Which should be the ONLY topic discussed as everything else is a consequence of of that corruption and monetary influences.

Him supporting Hillary seals the deal that he was a phoney all along.

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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:31 PM
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And Bernie has voted 93% of the time for the party that was for corruption, money and influence.

If you're looking for St. Bernard, keep looking.

hahahahahahahahahaha



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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If you're looking for St. Bernard, keep looking.


LOL looking for a ST in a pool of politicians is just silly.

I was just looking for the .000000001% chance of who was the least worthless one of the group. Solely expected him to keep talking about corruption and finance influences in his presidency with a lame duck congress.

We cant fix the problems in this country until we focus on corruption and finance influences in DC and he had the biggest soap box stand when it came to that.

Him endorsing her as I expected him to do , only confirms my suspicions that he was phony.

Doesn't look like there are any that offer a .000000001% of hope over another in this election, but trump now looks like the .00000000000000000000001% chance of least suck over hillary . So there is that and she already has proven her suckiness and lobbying prostitution abilities.

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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: interupt42

The only way anything will ever get better is if 535 members of congress get the stomach flu and terminal diarrhea.

If you're wishing for an honest politician, or an honest man, you and Diogenes might want to just hunker down and hope for an EMP and a zombie apocalypse.



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