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originally posted by: Sublevel6
If you are going to try and debunk something try researching it first
futurism.com...
I too have noticed these in the South of England last few days. The air in my town feels polluted but there was a lot of traffic in town yesterday and it's hot so it could be smog. Either way they are polluting the skies you can't deny there's chemicals in the atmosphere.
originally posted by: KeithCooper
a reply to: riley
This site appears to now be heavily populated with either fools or cointelpro types. I would make mental note of just who is most vocal.
originally posted by: riley
originally posted by: payt69
I'd really have to have a look at the weather data of where you live. Not to be offensive, but confirmation bias can be very deceptive. There may have been heatwaves without persisting contrails, but maybe you just made note of the ones where there were contrails.
We have had record temperatures.. and on days where records broken I have seen chemtrails on those days. On cooler days I have not seen them. I am not about to post where I live and you would not gleam anything further than I other than having it confirmed that ..yes there have been record breaking heat waves. Clearly they're not gong to keep chemtrail data.
As for the visuals of contrails.. well you noted earlier that you have pictures of them, so maybe you can post a few so we can see what you're talking about. That'd be really helpful.
I am not posting the pics as I'd have to edit out landmarks which would show where I live.
Seriously do not ask people where they live that is not always reasonable.
I also wouldn't bother as.. despite you saying "not to be offensive" you're still openly declaring doubts about my own "confirmation bias" despite it being very clear you have your own. Ergo; there would be little point and at this point.. after having to do the "water vapor challenge" I won't be set up for another one thankyou. Not be be offensive or anything.
originally posted by: riley
originally posted by: payt69
The basic difference between a chemtrail and a contrail is chemicals being added.
The chemtrail causing heat waves has since been countered despite what I have observed.. I will have to research it more. There does seem to be a connection but it's chicken or the egg at this point.
Posted badly.
Sorryedit on 8-5-2016 by 3danimator2014 because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: riley
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: riley
Contrails have been found to reduce daily temperature, so how are they causing heat waves? When comparing temperatures in areas that have a high contrail count they found a 5-6 degree lower temperature when compared to areas that didn't have contrails.
They found that contrails depress the difference between daytime and nighttime temperatures, typically decreasing the maximum temperature and raising the minimum temperature. In this respect, the contrail clouds mimic the effect of ordinary clouds.
The researchers report that the "diurnal temperature range was statistically significantly reduced at outbreak stations versus non-outbreak stations." In the South, this amounted to about a 6 degree Fahrenheit reduction in daily temperature range, while in the Midwest, there was about a 5 degree Fahrenheit reduction. Temperatures the days before and after the outbreaks did not show this effect, indicating that the lower temperatures were due to the contrail outbreaks.
news.psu.edu...
Correlation. Record temperatures have been consistent.. I had considered that they were trying to lower natural temperatures but it does seem to heat up after they've flown over.
Very interesting read I will research it further thanks for the info. I do have reservations with them doing those kinds of studies.. there may be unseen consequences with intentionally screwing with weather patterns. If they are just short term fixes then I don't see the point in them bothering.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: 3danimator2014
I would't worry too much about tptb just the pollution from the Holloway Road will get you in the end.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: confirmed
So, please, explain how they're able to suddenly increase the amount of anything that an aircraft can carry to leave trails hundreds, if not thousands of miles long. Because right now, there are no aircraft anywhere in the world capable of doing that.
originally posted by: confirmed
a reply to: Zaphod58
patience grasshopper it will all come to you. there is a cry call out there are things happening beyond your believe but true .. i have no reason to lie to you
This site appears to now be heavily populated with either fools or cointelpro types.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: TerryDon79
I'll ask again.
You will only get the same answer I am afraid.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: riley
You raise some very good points. I suggest everyone reads this and I suspect some will already know about it but its about our government spraying the UK with chemicals for experimental weapons. In one respect a glance through this puts another perspective on chemtrails because it shows true ruthlessness of governments even against their own populations.
www.theguardian.com...
In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.
In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Slightly off topic. ..but you realise no one cares about where you live other than with regards to the topic of this thread
I live on manor gardens off holloway road in North London. Oh no! Here come tptb to....do something to me.
Also. Debunkers are backing what they say with proven science and logistical data. Feel free to do the same. Please do as it will make things far more interesting.