I believe it is worth writing on the topic although there aren't responses. I do not write for that. I believe there are people on the other side who
read although they might not be registered members in ATS.
Let go back to the Fatima dating. Why 99 years? What made pope John Paul II believe that the secret is finished in 2000?
It was announced by Cardinal Angelo Sodano on May 13, 2000, 83 years after the first apparition of the Lady to the children in the Cova da Iria,
that the Third Secret would finally be released. In his announcement, Cardinal Sodano implied that the secret was about the 20th century persecution
of Christians that culminated in the failed Pope John Paul II assassination attempt on May 13, 1981, the 64th anniversary of the first apparition of
the Lady at Fátima.en.wikipedia.org...
Officially it is that explanation. Unofficially, we have the leak of Neues Europa (posted in this thread) that says "in the second half of 20th
century". The text was approved as close enough to the real text by then prefect of congregation of doctrine of faith (or holy office) cardinal
Ottaviani. It was further posted in Osservatore Romano in the days between the death of John Paul I and election of John Paul II, by mgr Corrado
Balducci. So we can take that text as pretty close although not identical with the real one.
In 2000 pope and cardinals believed whatever was prophesied "in the second half of 20th century" was done. History proved otherwise. But what was the
REAL PHRASE they believed to be already fulfilled? Obviously it was not "in the second half of 20th century" because otherwise the prophecy failed. It
was something else. A date, as some other insiders said to be contained in the real text. What date could be given and in which way, that a person who
had read it would be 100% sure it has already passed in year 2000?
How about a phrase "in the year before the end of the century". If it was "in the end of the century" then pope and cardinals would have expected year
2000 to pass first, before they release any text. Therefore they were sure the date had already passed in the years before 2000.
Why not in year 1981 or 1991? Because, that would make period of time longer than one year. The "century" was not 20th century but the century from
the start of the apparitions. (Indeed it would be strange Virgin Mary to name "20th century" having in mind that the birth of Jesus didn't occur in
year 1.) Now we have only one year left to the end of century of the apparitions themselves. If it was any time period longer than 1 year, it should
have already passed in those 16 years after 2000. Assuming the prophecy is authentic and didn't fail.
Could it be the real phrase to contain words "in a month before the end of the century"? I don't think so. Looking at the 2000 release, it was first
announced in May and then the full text followed on June 26, 2000. A fixed month is a too small period for a prophecy stretched over a century.
Lucia's nuns published a book speaking of a pole shift. Is it the important part of the secret? And how about the rescue way?
Or we will have the phenomenon of the Biblical Jonas repeated over and over again, even if we deal with 100% authentic apparitions. But then, isn't it
better to believe someone else than the seers? The entire spiritual construction of the Church is based on prophecy. The prophecy of the Second Coming
of Jesus, and so on. Strange why, the Old Testament prophets did not see the Church in any of their prophecies. Interpretation wrong, or what? If the
Church(es) fail in big matters over and over again, for nearly 2000 years after Jesus Christ (1987 to be precise) it means something in their
foundation was set very wrong.
Perhaps, not only Fatima texts but also ancient texts must be opened to the believing people, before not after any events, be they cataclysmic or
spiritual. The impact on credibility of Church would be just too big if that doesn't happen and the events happen to humanity 1/3 of which is
Christian, without being forewarned by the servants of God who were appointed to do that. I can't imagine a future of such kind of church who
practically betrayed humanity in its most important moment after the Flood. If that is the case, perhaps God will give others to serve Him in the post
cataclysmic period, those who did not fail to act on His words once receiving them.
And if there isn't such thing as pole shift and secret events, then what it was all about? A century of failed hopes for reaching Era of peace, and 20
centuries failed hopes of reaching God's kingdom on Earth? Sometimes appearing to be more terrible than the pre-Christian period? When did they lie to
us, then or now? I want to see the gospel fulfilled, not after another 2000 years when Jesus might come or he might not even then. Enough of empty
promises for humanity that was ruled in its most advanced part for 15 centuries unchallenged by one religious institution in the name of Jesus.
Perhaps Jesus would be the first one to disagree with it.
In a sense, the spiritual impact of such mega non-event as the failed Fatima prophecy (and failed great number of other prophecies as well) will be
even bigger for a world who already doesn't believe as it did before. Why to pay attention to ANY further prophecy and teaching of such (as the
teaching of the Revelation for example) if what is being said simply doesn't fulfill, anytime, in 2,000 years or in one's own lifetime? Where is the
point to continue THAT course of the community of believers called after the Greek word "church"?
Indeed, the pope could deliver message thru drone, only what the message will be. I am eager to hear it first.
I'd like to ask again the simple question: who comes after pope Francis? After the reformer who might indeed be such (still there is a time)? After
the list of Malachi and failed Fatima? If there are more people to come as successors of Peter, we should review ALL not only one failed prophecy.
How about the 144,000 and later the manchild, who are not Jesus or the apostles or the Catholic priesthood for obvious reasons? (Jesus was never taken
to heaven as newborn baby for example). We need reread and fix of every theory and doctrine, that are not dogmas. The sooner we start it the better
for all. Let it be pope Francis to start it, not waiting several more years when he would ultimately retire. It is easy to talk like preachers that
End times start with Blood moons, etc improvable suggestions. It is easy to say the antichrist comes because...always in history. It is difficult to
make the things better.
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