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Yes. Yes I did.
So I say the rate of warming slowed since 1998 - and you say - "compared to what?
Again, compared to what?
You are catagorically claiming that the rate of warming did not slow sine 1998.
Yes, indeed.
During a climate change event in which warming occurs, the warmer the planet gets, the more water vapor the troposphere(atmosphere) can contain which leads to a feedback effect...
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: Phage
Yup. You're wrong. That's too low. If that's the rate of increase we get, we're doing a whole lot of stuff right. The goal for the Paris agreement is to limit warming to 2º (which includes the 0.8º we've already got, so 1.2º) at the end of the century.
Since at least 97% if not more of the greenhouse effect in the Troposphere, the atmospheric layer where all surface weather and climate occurs, is caused by water vapor then the increase in temperature for the past 100 years has been mostly caused by water vapor and not CO2... So out of the 0.8C increase in the last 100 years 0.776C was caused by water vapor...
During a climate change event in which warming occurs, the warmer the planet gets, the more water vapor the troposphere(atmosphere) can contain which leads to a feedback effect...
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Naa, at least he is not making claims such as "the lifetime of CO2 in the atmosphere is in the hundreds to thousands of years" as you have made in the past. Dr. Latour is explaining it within the context of electrical and chemical engineering.
heh... They seem to have differences in opinions. In case you didn't know scientists do not agree on everything... That does not disprove anything at all...
...
I'll ask this only once:
Do you repudiate Dr. Latour's claims, in light of him claiming that the greenhouse effect doesn't exist?
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Phage
An increase in temperatures by CO2 is neglegible... Can't you understand that GCMs are wrong, and even scientists "cannot understand" why they are doing so poorly?... According to the claims from the AGW crowd it should have been A LOT WARMER than it actually is. The warming capacity of CO2 has been exaggerated which is why the GCMs do so poorly, and why it hasn't gotten warmer...
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Phage
During a warming event, like the one we are undergoing, CO2 levels increase naturally as well, and as for "acidification" some other members were talking about, you should know that warmer waters tend to change their ph levels. Not to mention that corals that are near underwater volcanic vents the water ph level around those areas also changes "acidification". Yet we have seen the AGW crowd use these natural events to proclaim "mankind is the one doing it"...
that last line coming out is sooooooo ominous
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
Further Phage, and this is the really really unacceptable part, the scientists at NOAA made the "pause" disappear, as if it never existed, and the method they used to do so is really over the top when it comes to scam artists.
They "added" in the last two years (that would be 2015 and 2015), the El Nino years, to make the "pause" disappear. These "scientists" used a weather event to alter the global climate record.
Tired of Control Freaks
originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
The 'pause' only existed in datasets over specific start and end dates - namely, satellites, which aren't beyond critique insomuch as their accuracy is concerned.
There are 8 data sets in this tool: GISTEMP, BEST, RSS, NOAA, UAH, HadCRUT4, HadCRUT krig v2, Karl.
1979 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
...
1997 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
1998 through 2015 shows warming in every data set except RSS.
1999 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2000 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2001 through 2015 shows warming in every data set except RSS.
2002 through 2015 shows warming in every data set except RSS.
2003 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2004 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2005 through 2015 shows warming in every data set except BEST (land).
2006 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2007 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2008 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2009 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2010 through 2015 shows warming in every data set except RSS.
2011 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2012 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2013 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
2014 through 2015 shows warming in every data set.
The 'pause' was merely a trick to get you to believe in the conspiracy against climate change. You no longer have it to rely on.
Well frankly, I am going to go about living my life. I am going to use fossil fuels to run my car and heat my home. I am going to continue to use electricity. And I am going to watch the chicken little AGW global faithful suffer the agonies of guilt because they exist.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: syrinx high priest
that last line coming out is sooooooo ominous
It really is -
If you watch the data progress you can see that the temperature goes up and down even while it continues to rise steadily over the years
Let's just hope we get a few more years inside that 1.5 mark - though - we're seeing the affects of all of it now
We need to come to grips with this and begin making adjustments
But, people - what're ya gonna do?