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originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
. The EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE showed that it was a safe and effective compound. EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is acquired by rigorous research which is usually published in leading journals. So that's why PEER REVIEWED JOURNALS and publications are extremely important. Do you get it now??
Ahh so you cant ingest evolution and be poisoned, I get it
Evolution theory is a medication, does it dull the mind as well, obviously
I hope that they didnt put to much effort into reading a peer paper that suggested it was ok to ingest evolution like asprin
Tee Heee hee
I really think it's straitjacket time for you, Raggedy. You're off the cliff.
If you want to pose your question, I'm happy to answer it. In the meantime, take a pill.
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman
So do you miss the point on everything, or just on things you are resistant to trying to understand? Because anytime peer reviewed journals are brought up, you seem to loose any connection to reason.
Evolution, can be demonstrated via empirical evidence, and it gets published in peer reviewed journals. It is an well controlled process. I know, I've been through peer reivew on my academic (pre industry research).
Now creationism, and ID, that can't pass peer review, as it can not be empirically demonstrated.
So if I am asking for evidence and I get silly links that I am sick of reading
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
. The EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE showed that it was a safe and effective compound. EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is acquired by rigorous research which is usually published in leading journals. So that's why PEER REVIEWED JOURNALS and publications are extremely important. Do you get it now??
Ahh so you cant ingest evolution and be poisoned, I get it
Evolution theory is a medication, does it dull the mind as well, obviously
I hope that they didnt put to much effort into reading a peer paper that suggested it was ok to ingest evolution like asprin
Tee Heee hee
I really think it's straitjacket time for you, Raggedy. You're off the cliff.
If you want to pose your question, I'm happy to answer it. In the meantime, take a pill.
So you want to compare a quantifiable asprin with the unquantifiable evolution
and you expect me to swallow that, you should give yourself a headache, I just get a chuckle
Peer review, when you have a belief and you dont want to look stupid without someone else holding your hand
"There was a big bang from nothing, anyone want to agree, lets peer review a big bang from nothing, all agree then we wont look as stupid as if its just one or two of us, please"
Religious view
"There was a big bang from God, anyone want to agree, lets peer review a big bang from God"
Scientists respond, "No we cant have that, it has God in it"
I havnt missed any points
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
. The EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE showed that it was a safe and effective compound. EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is acquired by rigorous research which is usually published in leading journals. So that's why PEER REVIEWED JOURNALS and publications are extremely important. Do you get it now??
Ahh so you cant ingest evolution and be poisoned, I get it
Evolution theory is a medication, does it dull the mind as well, obviously
I hope that they didnt put to much effort into reading a peer paper that suggested it was ok to ingest evolution like asprin
Tee Heee hee
I really think it's straitjacket time for you, Raggedy. You're off the cliff.
If you want to pose your question, I'm happy to answer it. In the meantime, take a pill.
So you want to compare a quantifiable asprin with the unquantifiable evolution
and you expect me to swallow that, you should give yourself a headache, I just get a chuckle
Peer review, when you have a belief and you dont want to look stupid without someone else holding your hand
"There was a big bang from nothing, anyone want to agree, lets peer review a big bang from nothing, all agree then we wont look as stupid as if its just one or two of us, please"
Religious view
"There was a big bang from God, anyone want to agree, lets peer review a big bang from God"
Scientists respond, "No we cant have that, it has God in it"
I havnt missed any points
Yes, in fact, that's exactly what I'm doing - the scientific method is utilized regardless what you're researching. Doesn't matter whether it's evolution, an aspirin or an ant. The fundamental methodology is the same. EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is acquired through rigorous research and development.
And once again, you don't understand what PEER REVIEW means. Your learning curve is at zero.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman
So do you miss the point on everything, or just on things you are resistant to trying to understand? Because anytime peer reviewed journals are brought up, you seem to loose any connection to reason.
Evolution, can be demonstrated via empirical evidence, and it gets published in peer reviewed journals. It is an well controlled process. I know, I've been through peer reivew on my academic (pre industry research).
Now creationism, and ID, that can't pass peer review, as it can not be empirically demonstrated.
Hmm
So if I am asking for evidence and I get silly links that I am sick of reading and dont show evidence, get bored and lose interest, its my inability to understand thats at fault?
Of course, I am to sill to know that what I am told is the truth, not just a faith
Evolution must be proven, micro evolution is, its the rest of the theory I battle with.
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman
So do you miss the point on everything, or just on things you are resistant to trying to understand? Because anytime peer reviewed journals are brought up, you seem to loose any connection to reason.
Evolution, can be demonstrated via empirical evidence, and it gets published in peer reviewed journals. It is an well controlled process. I know, I've been through peer reivew on my academic (pre industry research).
Now creationism, and ID, that can't pass peer review, as it can not be empirically demonstrated.
Hmm
So if I am asking for evidence and I get silly links that I am sick of reading and dont show evidence, get bored and lose interest, its my inability to understand thats at fault?
Of course, I am to sill to know that what I am told is the truth, not just a faith
Evolution must be proven, micro evolution is, its the rest of the theory I battle with.
Here's a silly link posted 2 days ago. You haven't read it, yet you comment on it. You don't understand it, yet you're interpreting the contents. You've never been in a real laboratory, yet you can instruct everyone that the methods are flat wrong and prove nothing, you've never read ANY scientific journal article, yet you can comment on all of them as though you had some insight into science. Learning curve = 0.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: Raggedyman
Since there's clearly no empirical evidence supporting evolution, it should be a cakewalk for you to demonstrate such for your preferred scenario of YEC right?
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: Raggedyman
Since there's clearly no empirical evidence supporting evolution, it should be a cakewalk for you to demonstrate such for your preferred scenario of YEC right?
Oh pv you are so funny.
I don't call creation a science, I am not so hypocritical as to suggest that my beliefs are a science
You can act so very silly sometimes
How about once Phanta has done his best brow beating me with his religios ideologies, you and I discuss your faith in science of evolution
You can show me your peer reviewed evidence laced with possibility sand assumption
Simply, creation isn't being sold as a science, I have never suggested it should be
Why do you hate science pv, why do you allow it to be subject to this kind of religios evolution woo
Empirical evidence for evolution?
No, you are baiting and switching trying to turn this discussion into something it's not, trying to move the goal posts, hiding you have no evidence and trying to make out I don't.
Well I don't, I don't claim creation a science
Where is the evidence PV, for your proven scientific evolution.
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: peter vlar
but here the religious loons get a free pass to preach their ant- science propaganda.
Your bias is showing - Refuting a theory is not science denial. In a decade or so we'll probably be looking back at this era as the scientific inquisition, where you either believed in evolution or were dispelled from the clergy. It's sad how material reductionism still plagues our society.
Well I don't, I don't claim creation a science
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: cooperton
I believe that the Gods and Humans intermingled.
Science does not disagree with the cosmology of "Order arose from Chaos" and that it was "of it's own accord". The rest is UPG. As to where the Gods are now? Some died (as I said), others retreated under the hills (sidhe) and to the other world. Science has nothing to say about that.
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: cooperton
I believe that the Gods and Humans intermingled.
Science does not disagree with the cosmology of "Order arose from Chaos" and that it was "of it's own accord". The rest is UPG. As to where the Gods are now? Some died (as I said), others retreated under the hills (sidhe) and to the other world. Science has nothing to say about that.
So the Gods were a product of evolution?
originally posted by: Noinden
Evolution in this context refers to biological evolution. Not Cosmological evolution. They are separate ideas. Just because they both contain the word evolution, does not mean then they are the same. It is accepted by the majority of english speaking people that when you use the word evolution, without a qualifying term, that it is biological evolution. Not the evolution of gas or heat in chemical reactions, not the evolution of the solar system, nor the universe. No it is assumed that the term means biological evolution.
originally posted by: GetHyped
Dishonest creationist tactic #3657: instead of sticking to the clearly defined scientific definitions of terms, pick and choose different definitions as and when it suits your argument.