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Intelligent design theory, PROVEN

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posted on May, 17 2016 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
You are going off on a morality tangent

No, I'm not, I am throwing what you hold to be true, back at you as proof that some humans are considered better, more worthy or whatever you want to call it. Maybe it's proof that they were more evolved?




posted on May, 17 2016 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Raggedyman
You are going off on a morality tangent

No, I'm not, I am throwing what you hold to be true, back at you as proof that some humans are considered better, more worthy or whatever you want to call it. Maybe it's proof that they were more evolved?



You assume you know what I believe, hardly
I dont hold it to be true that Jews are more evolved, thats silly



originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Raggedyman

Well gods chosen people will always be on top of the rest.



Really?
Evidence?

Doesnt seem like they are more or less evolved than any other race, bible doesnt say that either

You are going off on a morality tangent

Really, is trying to place words in my mouth your best strategy, its pathetic



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
You assume you know what I believe, hardly
I dont hold it to be true that Jews are more evolved, thats silly

Not this again.



Really?
Evidence?

Doesnt seem like they are more or less evolved than any other race, bible doesnt say that either

You are going off on a morality tangent

Really, is trying to place words in my mouth your best strategy, its pathetic

I have no strategy. I'm just winging it.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

you are contradicting yourself.. its not your business what other believe??

do you know what wanting others to ackowledge what your opinion on evolution is?? you are making it your business to alter other peoples opinion..

if you truly believed its not your business what other opinions are you would not have started this thread..

how about you just admit you want everybody to take your opinions as facts because you think your opinions are more valid than anyone elses.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: choos
a reply to: Raggedyman

you are contradicting yourself.. its not your business what other believe??

do you know what wanting others to ackowledge what your opinion on evolution is?? you are making it your business to alter other peoples opinion..

if you truly believed its not your business what other opinions are you would not have started this thread..

how about you just admit you want everybody to take your opinions as facts because you think your opinions are more valid than anyone elses.


I have stated over and over and over again, creation is a faith, FAITH
Is that difficult to understand

My faith is no more valid than anyone elses, simple?

No more valid than your faith in evolution

and remember, your faith is taught in schools, that means the onus of evidence is on you



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:14 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
My faith is no more valid than anyone elses, simple?

No more valid than your faith in evolution

Actually it is but your doing everything you can to get a golden star in confirmation bias.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:40 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Raggedyman
My faith is no more valid than anyone elses, simple?

No more valid than your faith in evolution

Actually it is but your doing everything you can to get a golden star in confirmation bias.


Punctual or gradual evolution, think critically, analyse and then tell me what I should accept with evidence

Thanks dask

I deserve a gold star for wasting my time here



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

im was not referring to anything related to creation..

i was talking about your argument and how you are going about it..

you want to change peoples opinion on evolution as a science by using your opinion and thats pretty much it.. that wont cut it, if you want to change peoples opinion you will need STRONG evidence..
you need to stop asking for these people to prove their opinion.. you need to prove YOUR OPINION to show them their opinion is wrong.

so stop trying to push away your obligation, i am not here to prove my opinion, only to give it.
I am not the one who started this thread, you started this thread with the intention to change peoples opinion on evolution as a science therefore the "onus of evidence" is actually on you.

you want to change peoples opinion on evolution, then you better do better than opinions or you wont get anywhere just like this thread.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 12:49 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
Punctual or gradual evolution, think critically, analyse and then tell me what I should accept with evidence

Accept whatever you want, makes no difference to those playing by science's rules.


Thanks dask

I deserve a gold star for wasting my time here

Don't we all. Couple of years ago I read a mod say this is all just for entertainment. Just starting to realize that the "Deny Ignorance" moniker is just a vestigial appendage.

Hey, is that proof of evolution?



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 01:15 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Punctual or gradual evolution, think critically, analyse and then tell me what I should accept with evidence

Accept whatever you want, makes no difference to those playing by science's rules.


Thanks dask

I deserve a gold star for wasting my time here

Don't we all. Couple of years ago I read a mod say this is all just for entertainment. Just starting to realize that the "Deny Ignorance" moniker is just a vestigial appendage.

Hey, is that proof of evolution?


You claim its a proven science or at the every least plenty of others do

Where did matter come from
Where did laws come from, universal laws
Where did energy come from

Thanks for playing, time for you to deny ignorance.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 01:24 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
You claim its a proven science or at the every least plenty of others do

I could have sworn that I posted that it is a theory at least a couple of times.


Where did matter come from
Where did laws come from, universal laws
Where did energy come from

Thanks for playing, time for you to deny ignorance.

Where did god come from?
Where did the programmer of this virtual reality come from?
Where did the ancient aliens come from?

Did you miss all that as well? I called it a shift in goal posts, if that helps.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 01:41 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Raggedyman
You claim its a proven science or at the every least plenty of others do

I could have sworn that I posted that it is a theory at least a couple of times.


Where did matter come from
Where did laws come from, universal laws
Where did energy come from

Thanks for playing, time for you to deny ignorance.


Where did god come from?
Where did the programmer of this virtual reality come from?
Where did the ancient aliens come from?

Did you miss all that as well? I called it a shift in goal posts, if that helps.


1) Always
2) Always
3) Irrelevant, I believe in God, yes God is alien to me. I can call him an alien, individual, always is the answer, all the same God, all the same answer to three questions, all the same God

I believe that creation is a faith, your choice is a science taught in school.
Taught its the truth and solid.

The onus is not on me cowboy, its on science
Just say you dont know, what you scarred that people might think you are silly.
Nobody knows, evolution is a faith, not a science
Get it yet

Goal post shift, no
Its about science not faith, prove the theory or accept its a faith.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 01:47 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
1) Always
2) Always
3) Irrelevant, I believe in God, yes God is alien to me. I can call him an alien, individual, always is the answer, all the same God, all the same answer to three questions, all the same God

It isn't just about you. I am talking about other peoples definition of "ancient aliens".


I believe that creation is a faith, your choice is a science taught in school.
Taught its the truth and solid.

I'm not in school anymore. I moved past what they told me there.

I went to sunday school as well, moved past that too.


The onus is not on me cowboy, its on science
Just say you dont know, what you scarred that people might think you are silly.
Nobody knows, evolution is a faith, not a science
Get it yet

Goal post shift, no
Its about science not faith, prove the theory or accept its a faith.

I thought I already said that I am open to the existence of a creater, just not yours. That pretty much means that I don't know.

What the science guys have going beats your version and I'm not even sold on either idea.

I'm not a cowboy and science is not my end all be all so there is no onus on me.



edit on 18-5-2016 by daskakik because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 01:55 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

Where did matter come from


and what if protons, neutrons and electrons was similar to your "God"? as in that it has always been?

science isnt claiming to know the secrets of the universe, it is humans attempt to find the answers using logic and realism.

while you are satisfied that a creator has always been. thats just an easy answer used to run away from the difficult questions for others.

but anyway you are still distancing yourself from your purpose of your thread, which is to prove that the scientific method is a belief system and not scientific at all or something like that.
are you going to get around to providing the evidence of your opinion yet?


edit on 18-5-2016 by choos because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 02:00 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
I always thought the proof was in the peanut butter.



Is this a rebuttal to that argument or proof of something? Idk...




posted on May, 18 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Raggedyman
You claim its a proven science or at the every least plenty of others do

I could have sworn that I posted that it is a theory at least a couple of times.


Where did matter come from
Where did laws come from, universal laws
Where did energy come from

Thanks for playing, time for you to deny ignorance.


Where did god come from?
Where did the programmer of this virtual reality come from?
Where did the ancient aliens come from?

Did you miss all that as well? I called it a shift in goal posts, if that helps.


1) Always
2) Always
3) Irrelevant, I believe in God, yes God is alien to me. I can call him an alien, individual, always is the answer, all the same God, all the same answer to three questions, all the same God

I believe that creation is a faith, your choice is a science taught in school.
Taught its the truth and solid.

The onus is not on me cowboy, its on science
Just say you dont know, what you scarred that people might think you are silly.
Nobody knows, evolution is a faith, not a science
Get it yet

Goal post shift, no
Its about science not faith, prove the theory or accept its a faith.


oh, look, an opinion on the internet. thats a new one.





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