Tow Truck Driver Leaves Victim on Side of Road Because "Religion"?

originally posted by: chuck258

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: BooCrackers

You are mixing religion with politics.....he refused to tow her after a wreck due to the political stickers...had nothing to do with religion

Really? NOTHING to do with religion?

“I’m a conservative Christian, I’ve just drawn a line in the sand,” he said. “I’m not going to associate or conduct business with them.”

"Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and he just said get in the truck and leave," said Ken Shupe of Shupee Max Towing in Traveler's Rest, S.C..

As per usual, taking quotes out of context.

Here is EVERYTHING he said:

“Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and he just said get in the truck and leave,” Shupe said. “And when I got in my truck, you know, I was so proud, because I felt like I finally drew a line in the sand and stood up for what I believed.”

He's crediting "the lord" with giving him the strength to stand up for something he believed in - in the same way some people who say, lose a lot of weight, credit "the lord" with the strength required.

Exactly this, this is the meat of it. Political, not religious. There is a distinction.

a reply to: windword

I've only read the first two pages of this thread.

Disappointed but sadly not surprised at the attitude of both the pick-up driver mentioned in the OP and of many of those posting on here.

Obviously the guy in question hasn't really understood the story of The Good Samaritan and many other passages in the Bible.

Oh....and for the record, I'm Agnostic and have no horse whatsoever in the religion race....I just have my own moral code that includes helping other people whenever possible.

originally posted by: windword
Ken Shupe, a 51 year old "conservative" Christian tow truck driver was called to the scene of an accident, in Asheville, North Carolina, and then refused to aid the disabled victim, Cassandra McWade, when he saw her Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.

Lol, it is not like Liberals who see anyone with a Trump ad, or Trump bumper sticker would do any better...

Recently a man tried an experiment and by far more liberals responded with violence when the man used a Trump ad and kept rooting for Trump, than when he used a Sanders ad and rooted for him...

Not that what that trucker did was right, but not all conservatives are like that... It's funny how liberals continue to try to make these false claims...

I guess the "Black Lives MAtter" protesters who root for cops being killed is evidence that all Liberals are cop killers, and violent thugs huh?...

originally posted by: BooCrackers

Well, Ive been called worse...and I would likely break out a lawn chair if you were on the side of the road being mauled by a bear.....64oz whizzer cup from the 7-11...little bit of popcorn. Hey not my place to intervene with nature, you likely pissed off the bear first. How am I to know. Besides American culture is to not get involved, rather film it and post on YouTube right?

I'm guessing that sounded much better in your head than it does written down. It adds nothing useful to this conversation.

Sorry not backing any horse, just saying he was within his legal right to do what he did. And the thing about principals is they represent the moral values instilled upon any one individual. I said right and wrong were a matter of perspective. In my view I live in a nation full of prey, because they choose to be prey. You may not like me, but I am fair. And in this world fair is enough.

And don't confuse principals with passion or dogmatic belief. 3 different horses there chuck.

Legal or not that's not all you were saying. You said, "I never said I support him in his decision, I just said its about time someone stood up for something even though it may be wrong."

So it's about time someone stood up for something wrong??? First of all I don't think there is a shortage of that. Second of all, if there was a shortage of it that would be a good thing and only a fool would want to change it.

I'm well aware of what principles are and some are worth having while others are not. Taking a principled stand to end hunger for children is one thing. Taking a principled stand to promote more hungry children is another. If you stood up for the first one it's admirable. To stand up for the other just makes you a A-hole. Not sure when it would be about time for someone to take a principled stand for more A-holes. Your life must be pretty f*cking amazing to champion that kind of idea.

I do agree with you that right and wrong are a matter of perspective though. You seem to be of the opinion that he's wrong in what he did as well. Yet you say it's about time he acted wrong too. That makes no sense.

You say you live in a nation of prey because they choose to be. I doubt they all choose to be prey although to a predator who tries to hide the truth of himself that might make a nice rationalization.

Whether I like you or not also doesn't matter. I also will just have to take your word for it on you being fair as I wouldn't know. My issue with what you're saying is that you don't seem to even know where you stand on anything. You think he's wrong but think it's good he acted wrong to another person??? Or do you agree with what he did and why???

Or is it that you just like what he did only because you have a bias toward this woman too for some reason??? While at the same time you disagree with why he did it because you wouldn't want it done to you, but since it was this woman who you dislike it was ok??? Because that's what it sounds like to me. Did she deserve it because she's a supporter of Sanders??? Was it ok because she was a Democrat??? Because that is what it sounds like. Only you seem to want to avoid coming right out and saying it like that because you don't want to admit to yourself or others that is how you truly feel about it.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

Lol, it is not like Liberals who see anyone with a Trump ad, or Trump bumper sticker would do any better...

If a liberal did the same then they too are in the wrong.

Not that what that trucker did was right, but not all conservatives are like that... It's funny how liberals continue to try to make these false claims...

Correct. Not all conservatives are like this guy. Nor are all liberals alike. So why are you trying to make it seem that way???

Why not just agree that what the trucker did was wrong and leave it at that???

a reply to: windword

I am no fan of that line of thinking as far as right wing religion goes, but if this was the other way around, people would be cheering for them all over social media. Leftists riot at protests, it's activism, Rightists protest, it's racism. The Leftists tow truck driver could also beat up the stranded driver and find overwhelming support for his actions.

a reply to: Winstonian

If it was the other way around it would still be wrong!!! What the f*ck is wrong with everyone.

Stop justifying peoples wrong actions by claiming the other side would do the same.

Stop taking sides in something where you sell out your own principles. That goes for both sides.

Why is that so hard??? If it's wrong for one side it's wrong for the other regardless of what side you support. Wrong actions are wrong actions.

a reply to: mOjOm

Exactly! Anybody out there on which ever side of the political fence that would refuse to help a disabled member of the public has got something seriously wrong with them upstairs.

Not helping disabled people, especially when its your job to help is down right wrong!

a reply to: BubbaJoe
I love the righteous indignation against the truck driver on this thread. Funny that you don't hear this same indignation when Sanders supporters are attacking police and Trump supporters in the streets.
Odd isn't it? Plenty of Americans are pissed off at the behaviour of Sanders people tbis election, and I can kind of understand this guys reaction to a degree
Apparently its OK to fire guns in the air and pepper spay Trump supporters - but an outrage to refuse to tow a Sanders supporters car. The world is a whacky place alright.

a reply to: chuck258

As per usual, taking quotes out of context. Here is EVERYTHING he said:
“Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and he just said get in the truck and leave,” Shupe said. “And when I got in my truck, you know, I was so proud, because I felt like I finally drew a line in the sand and stood up for what I believed.”

He's crediting "the lord"

No, he was obeying "the lord". And, that is not everything he said, either. He also said:

“I’m a conservative Christian, I’ve just drawn a line in the sand,” he said. “I’m not going to associate or conduct business with them.”

He cloaked his bigotry in righteous indignation, based on his Christian religion.

a reply to: BooCrackers

Exactly this, this is the meat of it. Political, not religious. There is a distinction.

And, the tow truck driver doesn't understand that distinction., believing that conservative Christians are told by "the lord" to deny service to "Democrats".

a reply to: jimbo999

I'm with mOjOm on this...
what the heck is wrong you some of yas??

what is it?? and eye for an eye? blood must have blood? they do it so we can??
one person is on here saying that if we don't want to be singled out for retribution we shouldn't have bumper stickers on our cars and live our lives as privately as we can.. And I do live my life that way.
but using this same logic... and I don't agree with it by the way...
if trump doesn't want his supporters and the cops put there to protect him attacked, then he shouldn't be so offensive in his speech right??

okay got it!! we remove our bumper stickers and keep our opinions to ourselves... the other side does the same, trump tones down his speech..
and everything is just fine and dandy!!
removing our freedom of speech solves everything I guess.

we can all just sit silently while those in power- left and right, the heads and tails of the same coin, lucifer's left and right hand, destroys our country!!!

if it was your son that was shot trying to protect that planned parenthood clinic would you give a dang weather or not it was an abortion clinic that was the target or that the shooter was a pro-life fruitcake? or would you just feel a great loss and well, that what had happens was so wrong?
if your elderly grandfather was denied a tow on a hot summer day and the heat got to him and his heart stopped, would you be blaming the bumper sticker on his car or the lousy sob truck driver that refused to tow him and left him there in the heat?
if your son the cop came home with a concussion from having a rock thrown at him while at a political rally, would you blame the politics, or just see those who threw the rocks as uncivilized animals?

and....the only message I am getting from these events is that WE ARE BECOMING A SOCIETY OF UNCIVILIZED ANIMALS! from gangs of poor people raiding stores stealing all they can as fast as they can to wall street white collars grading securities they know are crap as AAA hoping they can make their million before the whole thing blows up.. to the politicians who help those wall street crooks get away with it. just a bunch of uncaring, we got ours go float yourself, animals!

a reply to: windword

Glad to see you didn't read the entire thing...and if you did....glad to see you were a victim of the public school system.

If you did read in its entirety, and you still don't understand the tow truckers premise....then you have more issues with religion than you think.

a reply to: dawnstar
Actually I feel bad in that you make many valid points about a great many things. I like you, we can be pals.

Still freedom of speech covers even those we don't agree with. Now I'm not saying she cant plaster her car with Bernie stickers, honestly I could care less what you put on yer car.

Its just that if you are going to advertise what it is you like most in life, prepare for a differing of opinions, even those that drive a person to leave someone on the side of the road. That's what comes with freedom of speech.

And you are correct, moral values and common courtesy are dead in this country thanks to the overt PC government and pansy a** folk who WONT stand up for what they believe in.

Likely we will become social pariahs due to our beliefs as they go against the band wagon mentality that this nation holds so dearly. Thank the KGB back in 1948 when they brought socialism/communism to the US covertly and fostered its growth among minorities.

originally posted by: ketsuko
If it's his truck and his business, oh well. His loss.

Discrimination is discrimination. He wouldn't be allowed advertise his business saying 'No Democrats'.
This should, and probably will end in a court judgement in favour of the woman.

Sometimes, to avoid being seen as an asshole, you just need to suck it up and behave like a grown up instead of a three year old brat.

a reply to: BooCrackers

still sounds like you are focusing all the blame on the left hand of satan while totally ignoring the fact that he carries an ax in his right hand.

while the ones running the show, left and right are gathered together in mansions wheeling and dealing, plotting and probably laughing at the idiots outside who are killing each other and burning their own neighborhoods down. we can be their weapons and play by their rules, or we can refuse to play by their rules and extend our hands to help our neighbors. the tow truck driver and the lady driving the car have much more in common than that have differences.

a reply to: BooCrackers

It's not rocket science Boo! "The Lord" told the guy not to tow the woman's car because of her political lean.

please ignore