Tow Truck Driver Leaves Victim on Side of Road Because "Religion"?

originally posted by: LUDU27

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: LUDU27

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: LUDU27

So long, judging by your attitude, as you're one of them, right?

History is the best predictor of the future.

I think I can predict your future using your posting history. You will be exfoliated soon..

Then it will be back to your safe space seeking refuge from reality.

The reality is...you are a sock puppet and I know exactly who you are. Looking forward to our further exchanges, Bring it!


and gone....

edit on 5-5-2016 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)

“When he wakes up in the morning, he’s the same person every day, and that faith, and his political views have been the same since he was a teenager,” he said.

So he has been a jerk his whole life.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I am not, what is so happily called a fundie...or even a fundamentalist. Or even Christian, now that I think on it...

I am, however, anti-stereotype. ...and that does, had you read my post a bit more carefully, include Muslims. It also includes Jews, Gays, Transsexuals, and many other groups that carry some sort of stigma according to some.

Judge each according to their merit, or lack there of...I believe that is what I said, was it not?

This jerk of a tow truck driver deserves to be called just that...a jerk. However, my neighbor up the street, who is a fundamentalist Christian, and a damned nice guy, to boot, does not deserve to be tarred with the same brush...does he?

Ok I am going to buy this a little, I too have known some "Fundies" who were honestly good people, I worked for one for 6 years, and I am pretty sure he had a KKK hood and robe in his closet. He treated me quite well, even though I an avowed agnostic, in return, I made him a boatload of money. I never saw him blatantly mistreat a black person, but he did business with them in a different fashion.

originally posted by: olaru12


nvm

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: CynConcepts
I disagree. There is not many nor a large section of the populace that want a civil war! They are a minority extreme. They just appear bigger because they talk louder and get the media's attention. The majority of American's just want to live and enjoy their life with family and friends. Those real Americans are mere blips of non-entertainment that the media and politics cannot proprogandize and use for profit. It is much more profitable to embellish a singular exciting element.

It could be a difference of opinion in our interpretation of the word large. About 10% of the country or 31 million identify with the Tea Party and about 15% of that group or 4.65 million are extreme enough to be militant in their beliefs. Of that, if 1% of the group is willing to stand up and take action that's a near 50,000 person army bordering on being domestic terrorists. I consider a 50,000 person army if they were to mobilize to be large, if the US were to fight that large of a group it would go down as one of the biggest single battles in American history.

The problem is, that even among that group are factions that think differently, if 50K marched against DC, unfortunately, it would be the biggest massacre in American History.

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
jesus would be proud ?

Wow...almost missed this one.

I don't believe in Jesus as in the biblical representation. But as far as the stories of Jesus...allow me to provide my opinion. Jesus was the son of God given to the Earth and it's inhabitants to fix what they had broke. His message was simple. Love one another and celebrate the life his Father has given you. I hope I did that sentence justice.

Now...that would mean other things also. Anything that threatens that life, anything that serves to enslave that life would be considered evil...or of the devil. Something to be fought...something to avoid. And while it is simply opinion, some people would consider socialism a threat to the lives, hopes and dreams of a majority of the people. In this tow truck drivers eyes...if not fully realized in his mind...a supporter of something that would destroy life, hope and dreams would be considered evil.

According to "Revelation", Jesus will do battle with evil for the benefit of all people, to save their lives, their souls, hopes and dreams. So you COULD say...this simple tow truck driver did exactly what Jesus would do. No different than overturning the tables of the rich, no different than drowning the army hunting Moses.

I still think the two truck driver was being an ass...but to answer your question. Yes...Jesus may have done the same.

Sixteen pages deep and I am not replying to anyone in particular. So, I am sure this post will be rolled over and lost in the mosh, but how much more evidence do we need to show that this political bickering is the equivalent of primitive tribalism?

The real wonder is that folks would jump to defend this behavior. It is, after all, the exact behavior that leads to senseless violence from such extremes as hooligans all the way to genocide.

EDIT TO ADD:
And here we are, with a "christian" tow truck driver choosing to not help a person in need due to their beliefs. Amazing. Did our dear tow truck driver sleep through the entirety of Matthew 5, or did he, like most "christian" folk, conveniently forget this key part of the gospels?
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From a cynical point of view, it's a hilarious show. Monkeys killing monkeys over their preferred beliefs. One goof defending his pile of dung against his perceived enemy - another idiot with a weapon and a pile of lies to fight for. It's a complete circus from the correct vantage. No need to call in the clowns for relief. A perpetual tragic comedy spurred on by our 'betters'.

Welcome to the show. Long live the show.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I don't believe in Jesus as in the biblical representation. But as far as the stories of Jesus...allow me to provide my opinion. Jesus may have done the same

Does not believing in the biblical representation of Jesus give you the permission to change his biblical message?

Remember, Jesus willing walked to his death, and didn't defend himself. He told his followers to "take up their cross" and follow him, and to "turn the other cheek". He said his kingdom wasn't of this world, and whoever loved their life more than him wouldn't make it in "God's Kingdom".

Several members have already cited his parable of the "Good Samaritan". Samaritans were like "dogs" to the Jews, that's why the story was so poignant to his disciples at the time. Even "Samaritans" were "gooder than some Jews, "God's chosen people".

So, no. The tow truck driver's response wasn't Christian, in the least, even in conservative Christian terms. There's no twisting that can make it so.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

hmm... I had a dream that in my later years, I would be walking from town to town, and well, that is all you need to know about the dream...
outside of the fact that that dream, has been killed, it will never happen now without a miracle sent by god, since I cannot walk much further than our mailbox. my ability to walk was very important to me, and yet, the system we have now, that is neither socialist, communist, or capitalist, continually took more and more money from my family's resources, to ensure that the poor had their medicaid, while leaving me out in the cold when I asked for just a little bit of help.
it not weather the system is socialist, or communist, or capitalist, any of those systems would work just fine as long as the people had a moral backbone, but when the people lose that backbone then it the corruption will make any system into a dream killer nightmare.
people doing what they have to do is not evil, even when they are accepting food stamps or supporting candidates who believe that it's an important program. that is just one of the most basic attributes of human nature, along with every other critter out there in the world. sitting by and letting people starve to death so your ira can grow and you and your buddies can be enriched, well, ya that might be a tad bit on the evil side of the spectrum.

a reply to: windword

No...not Christian. But depending upon his internal thoughts, views and the priority he gives to the situation...maybe not evil. Sometimes people make the wrong choice, but for the right reason. Benefit of the doubt.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: windword

No...not Christian. But depending upon his internal thoughts, views and the priority he gives to the situation...maybe not evil. Sometimes people make the wrong choice, but for the right reason. Benefit of the doubt.

You leave a woman with medical issues, who was just involved in an accident, on a HWY.

There's a Right Reason?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

hmm... I had a dream that in my later years, I would be walking from town to town, and well, that is all you need to know about the dream...
outside of the fact that that dream, has been killed, it will never happen now without a miracle sent by god, since I cannot walk much further than our mailbox. my ability to walk was very important to me, and yet, the system we have now, that is neither socialist, communist, or capitalist, continually took more and more money from my family's resources, to ensure that the poor had their medicaid, while leaving me out in the cold when I asked for just a little bit of help.
it not weather the system is socialist, or communist, or capitalist, any of those systems would work just fine as long as the people had a moral backbone, but when the people lose that backbone then it the corruption will make any system into a dream killer nightmare.
people doing what they have to do is not evil, even when they are accepting food stamps or supporting candidates who believe that it's an important program. that is just one of the most basic attributes of human nature, along with every other critter out there in the world. sitting by and letting people starve to death so your ira can grow and you and your buddies can be enriched, well, ya that might be a tad bit on the evil side of the spectrum.

I'm sorry...but I don't know to which of my posts you are responding. So I will simply say this. If I am off base...please forgive me. No one in our society should be left out in the cold or deprived of what they need to survive. No one should have their nest-egg taken to provide others with undeserved luxuries. I believe that the biggest problem in our society is the lack of morals and values. We have traded them for...I don't know what. This is a quote from a song:

"Your childhood eyes were so intense
While bartering your innocence
For bits of string
The grown-up wings
You needed"

Too many people are willing to steal those "bits of string" and don't care where they came from...so long as they obtained them. They value those "bits of string" more than those things that are important...really important. Your dreams...everyone's dreams are what make us human.

Here is a link to that song:

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: windword

No...not Christian. But depending upon his internal thoughts, views and the priority he gives to the situation...maybe not evil. Sometimes people make the wrong choice, but for the right reason. Benefit of the doubt.

You leave a woman with medical issues, who was just involved in an accident, on a HWY.

There's a Right Reason?

As usual...you are preaching to the choir. I've repeatedly said the guy was an ass and did something stupid. I'm not willing to crucify him for a bad decision. I guess that is the difference between us.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I agree. There is no reason to crucify the man for his errant beliefs. We should crucify the errant beliefs in his stead, but sadly, there is little to no distinction left between "human" and "human beliefs" - a fact that plagues our societies deeply.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: windword

No...not Christian. But depending upon his internal thoughts, views and the priority he gives to the situation...maybe not evil. Sometimes people make the wrong choice, but for the right reason. Benefit of the doubt.

You leave a woman with medical issues, who was just involved in an accident, on a HWY.

There's a Right Reason?

As usual...you are preaching to the choir. I've repeatedly said the guy was an ass and did something stupid. I'm not willing to crucify him for a bad decision. I guess that is the difference between us.

You mentioned Right Reason, not me.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

lol... I doubt if anyone responding in this thread is building a cross in the back room to nail him on?? they're just typing words, that appear on a screen, for people to accept or reject... just like on the sign and bumper sticker on the lady's cars were just words, attached to her car, for people to accept or reject. I have an old pen that was given to my grandmother way back around 1900.. it's still in it's original packaging. on that package is the saying:
"The pen is mightier than the sword."
take away our pens, our keyboards, our printing presses, and yes even our bumper stickers, and we are on our way back to being ruled by swords.

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

Absolutely! It is the values and morals of our society that have changed to cause situations such as this. In-fighting, intolerance and the darkness that we have all created and allowed to be created in our words and actions. The plague of which you speak is just that...a filthy thing that has made us all less than what we could be. But as they say...if you lie with dogs you get fleas. Maybe humanity itself needs a reboot. In the mean time, I fear all we can do is try to separate the human from the beliefs that make us less than they could be...than we were meant to be.

a reply to: LDragonFire

Its not illegal to be an a**hole.......not sure what more you want?

a reply to: Gryphon66
Wasn't talking about the bible chief....that's a subject for the symbol minded..I'm just saying he has a right to say no way am I towing you.

He broke no laws in doing such.

originally posted by: BooCrackers
a reply to: LDragonFire

Its not illegal to be an a**hole.......not sure what more you want?

Maybe if you're driving a tow truck and refuse a customer for less then legitimate reasons.

I'm sure we'll find out.