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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: chrismarco
a reply to: ketsuko
I fet what you are saying but as corny as it sounds the kids who are getting screwed have little to no control over the adults...so they are screwed
If the nation abandons the school district in Detroit, it will create consequences that run for genertions and ripple outward into the rest of the nation. That can't happen.
But before a single penny of my tax dollars go to Detroit, I want to see prison sentences being meted out. There is no reason federal bailouts shouldn't come with a pound of flesh. And that should be the expectation going forward. Uncle Sam can be your sugar daddy....but its gonna hurt.
originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
The problem here is bigger than what the OP has shown.
originally posted by: KnightFire
Why should they get paid if they are not teaching? .
originally posted by: MountainLaurel
As I've been searching through different sources prior to responding in this thread, I'm honestly more confused then better informed about what the actual problems and solutions are for the Detroit Public Schools. It seems the funding per student is about $11,000 per year, give or take depending on the source, about the National average per student. So why are Detroit schools such a mess ? Mis-used allocations , outright theft of funds, the decline of the city since the car industry crashed, less enrollment as more people leave the city, paying for promised retirement packages for retired teachers all seem to be in play here.
It would seem the biggest cost to running a school would be paying the teachers and the staff.....I think I read somewhere that about 60% of a schools budget will be spent on staff. Now if the average class size was only 20 kids, many schools have up to 30...but even at 20 kids per class ...it takes 4 kids to pay the teacher's salary at $40k a year, plus leaves another $4k to go toward supplies and other costs. The remaining funds from the other 16 students leave another $176k on the table per classroom ! Now I understand I'm using simple math here, "common core" was before my time, lol......but something just doesn't add up here !
For $15k a year we were able to send our kid, not easily btw, it's a lot of money...but for that money she went to a BEAUTIFUL school, the best of everything, great teachers...day and night between the public schools...so how do they manage to give so much more for not that much more money per child?
originally posted by: MountainLaurel
a reply to: Edumakated
I understand the point your making, however my point wasn't so much about the performance of the students but rather about with the money already allocated by the Federal government per student, not including any money collected by property taxes, voted on by taxpayers. Why is there such a deficit of funds in Detroit that they can't pay their teachers moderate salaries?
In the example I used a Private school that costs $15k a year is able to provide a VERY GOOD school to their students, and yes they definitely expect a lot of hands on parental support of the students as well......but for $11k a year per student in Public schools ( on average ) it makes no sense to me that so many schools are struggling so badly that in this case they are considering defaulting on the teachers promised wages....something doesn't add up....A LOT of money is being wasted or stolen is the only thing I can think of.
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