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originally posted by: syrinx high priest
originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
Yes, yes I would consider it "just seven lives" if it was my family. I will never blame the method of choice for a killer, I'll put my blame on the killer!
Why aren't you speaking about the other half of homicides that were caused by other means?
And to reiterate, this law is about having your firearms confiscated for being accused of a crime, not committing one.
see my above post, there is a very quick judicial review and a restraining order has to be applied for
this is NOT a case where a whacko can just make stuff up about someone and have their guns taken away
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: introvert
The other half used other methods. So we could "potentially" save 7 lives.
I'm left wondering if you would consider it as 'just 7 lives', if it was your daughter (or other family member) who was shot during a domestic argument?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: syrinx high priest
So if your rights are violated for two weeks, it doesn't count?
It's still a violation of rights. Filing a restraining order doesn't necessarily mean there is anything going on beyond a bad breakup, same with accusations of violence.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: syrinx high priest
originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
Yes, yes I would consider it "just seven lives" if it was my family. I will never blame the method of choice for a killer, I'll put my blame on the killer!
Why aren't you speaking about the other half of homicides that were caused by other means?
And to reiterate, this law is about having your firearms confiscated for being accused of a crime, not committing one.
see my above post, there is a very quick judicial review and a restraining order has to be applied for
this is NOT a case where a whacko can just make stuff up about someone and have their guns taken away
Just remember folks, Your rights hinge on if someones bad at acting...
if he isn't an abuser, he gets his guns back
Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony , or any other crime, for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year? (See Instructions for Question 11.b.)
c. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a felony , or any other crime, for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?
i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence? (See Instructions for Question 11.i.)
originally posted by: introvert
This is a tough one.
It's a good idea to get that firearm out of the hands of someone known for abusing a woman, because it is very likely she will be killed with that firearm.
But that also brings-up 2nd amendment issues.
I'll have to think on this one a bit.
On average, that works out to 554 annual fatal shootings of an American woman by a current or former romantic partner during the nine years examined, or one every 16 hours.
On average, nearly 20 people per minute are physically abused by an intimate partner in the United States. During one year, this equates to more than 10 million women and men.
Their analysis, published in the BMJ on Tuesday, shows that "medical errors" in hospitals and other health care facilities are incredibly common and may now be the third leading cause of death in the United States -- claiming 251,000 lives every year, more than respiratory disease, accidents, stroke and Alzheimer's.
Firearms: America's irrational boogeyman since 1934 when the country realized it's stupid-ass prohibition law had created gun toting criminals.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Firearms: America's irrational boogeyman since 1934 when the country realized it's stupid-ass prohibition law had created gun toting criminals.
Then turns around and gives women abusers over in the middle east ak 47s and rpg's.
This report outlines the key findings from the review of those cases and the steps that we plan to take. Importantly, what it shows is that charges brought for perverting the course of justice or wasting police time for such "false" allegations need to be considered in the context of the total number of prosecutions brought for those offences. In the period of the review, there were 5,651 prosecutions for rape and 111,891 for domestic violence. During the same period there were 35 prosecutions for making false allegations of rape, six for making false allegation of domestic violence and three for making false allegations of both rape and domestic violence.
originally posted by: syrinx high priest
I'm just gonna drop this mic and move on.....
link
This report outlines the key findings from the review of those cases and the steps that we plan to take. Importantly, what it shows is that charges brought for perverting the course of justice or wasting police time for such "false" allegations need to be considered in the context of the total number of prosecutions brought for those offences. In the period of the review, there were 5,651 prosecutions for rape and 111,891 for domestic violence. During the same period there were 35 prosecutions for making false allegations of rape, six for making false allegation of domestic violence and three for making false allegations of both rape and domestic violence.
111,891 to 6
wow
prosecutions for making false allegations
originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: introvert
Think long and hard on this.
Being stripped of your firearms and ammunition for being "accused" of a crime is a HUGE slippery slope.
This is a horrible idea. The article says there are 13 domestic violence killings per year and half of those used a gun. The other half used other methods. So we could "potentially" save 7 lives.
And this is all over being "accused" of a crime, not committing one. No thanks.