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Trump: 'We can't continue to allow China to rape our country'

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posted on May, 2 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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A few things to consider regarding the US trade deficit with China...

1. Does the USA make anything that Chinese people want?

2. Does the USA make anything that Chinese people can afford?




posted on May, 2 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

According to this, soybeans, scrap metal/trash, and planes.

HONG KONG — The good news and bad news of America’s trade relationship with China can be summed up in a single word: soybeans.

First, the good news. Last year was a banner year for American exports. The United States shipped more than $120 billion of goods to the People’s Republic, according to data from the US International Trade Commission. That’s a new high — nearly 7 percent over the 2012 total.

Even better news: American exports to China are growing faster than the reverse. US imports from China rose only 3.3 percent in 2013.

Since 2003, US exports to China have grown by 389 percent. Only one country, Brazil, had a faster-growing appetite for what American sells. China is now the third biggest market for US merchandise after our NAFTA neighbors, Canada and Mexico.

Still, it’s bracing to think that the America of 2014 is, from China’s trade perspective, a breadbasket, an air hangar, and a garbage heap.

Here’s a look at both countries’ top exports from 2012 for a deeper glimpse of the strengths and imbalances in US-China trade:

Top US Exports to China, 2012

(Source: US International Trade Commission via Congressional Research Service)

(Figures in US$ millions)

Oilseeds and grains: 16,546

Waste and scrap: 9,526

Aerospace products and parts: 8,367




posted on May, 2 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: rollanotherone

I do however understand quite a few of the outrageous remarks or Trumpisms that the fellow in question has come away with.


Still not addressing your own accusations of racist xenophobe I see. Better to post memes from Reddit and 4chan then to actually address your own short comings.

And it was actually people like you that moved me in the direction of Trump to begin with. The more you look into your own ignorance about Trump, the more you learn how brainwashed you truly are.
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posted on May, 2 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

And yet the misinformed will continue with the insults and name calling without even take one second to listen to Trump with a non biased ear. All to easy to jump on the SJW bandwagon and toss out the usual memes that plague the political world these days.



posted on May, 2 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Seeing how Trump employs a lot of workers in China then isn't he helping to rape America?


But wait. I thought Trump is a racist xenophobe!?!?



posted on May, 3 2016 @ 07:07 AM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

Well if Trump somehow does manage to come to power im sure you will find out all about brainwashing in no time flat.

That picture or meme does indeed address the accusations of Trump being a racist xenophobe by way of the FACT that anyone who wishes to build a wall around the borders of a nation in this day of age is indeed a racist xenophobe.

Now jog along little doggie, Trumps leg needs some supporting.

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posted on May, 3 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Profusion

Well Trump will quite happily rape the minds of the people, seems like another double standard from the racist xenophobe.

You anti-Trump people are never going to win this argument because Trump didn't put any ideas in anyone's mind. He expressed the same ideas, morals and values that already existed in those of us that support him. Trump is therefore, to some extent...one of us. That is a far cry from Obama or Clinton. They aren't one of the people and they definitely don't share our values and morals.



posted on May, 3 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I have convinced at least 12 of my friends who are Bernie supporters to cast for Trump if Clinton gets the nominee (which is likely) . They have committed to this.

And they will also be actively working to get other Sanders supporters to switch to Trump when the Murderous criminal AntiAmerican Clinton's nominee is secured.

More people are going to switch from Sanders to Trump than to Clinton.



posted on May, 3 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
You anti-Trump people are never going to win this argument because Trump didn't put any ideas in anyone's mind. He expressed the same ideas, morals and values that already existed in those of us that support him. Trump is therefore, to some extent...one of us. That is a far cry from Obama or Clinton. They aren't one of the people and they definitely don't share our values and morals.

You are assuming that previous administrations didn't start a trade war with China because they didn't want to, not because they were aware of the outcome.

You want to bring back manufacturing? Great. Model after Germany and stop caring what China does. If you chase something down the drain, you usually end up in the sewer.

You want to bring equity in the trade balance? Great. Build something Chinese want to buy lots of. Save the tariff threat for the less educated.

You want to pretend that China is raping the US? Sod off. The only people raping the US are US based corporations...like Trump's...that moved their manufacturing operations too China, rather than do something innovative.



posted on May, 3 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: peck420

China subsidizes it manufacturing sector heavier than we subsidize agriculture. They also control 95% of the rare earth metals. Therefore, nearly anyone that wants to manufacture electronics of nearly any kind has to move to China against their will, or will be unable to compete with the subsidized price of goods they have a monopoly on.

Anything with a display, wireless capability, can be recharged or communicates will require rare earths. That describes the majority of today's consumer electronics. So how can a company or country that does not subsidize its manufacturing base, and does not have a share of the Chinese monopolistic control of rare earth metals able to produce an affordable product to export to China??

It is more complicated than just "make something they want" . We could make anything they want. But without access to those cheap subsidized REM's(95% of global supply under Chinese ownership), no one will be making anything. The caveat being, if you want access, move to China.



posted on May, 5 2016 @ 04:24 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

"one of us"

Now that really is a scary prospect! I can just see that becoming a chant.


They are all a shower of muppets buddy, but Trumps dangerous, and may just end up leading America down a path she cannot return from. Building big walls around your borders and banning Muslims from entering the nation does not bode well for the future im afraid.

And lets face it should he come to power that's exactly the kind of atrocity's Trump will implement.

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posted on May, 5 2016 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

no bro, he just gonna be like "oh,I was j/k man. But here are xx plans for border security funding increases for more efficient enforcement."

im pretty sure.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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What is Trump going to do about it? Restructure trade deals with China like he said? One problem we don't have trade deals with China because China is a member of the World Trade Organization. So is going to have the US leave the WTO just to make a trade deal with China? It is all completely laughable.
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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Profusion


Being a Trump supporter, I can think of no more important issue than stopping the job drain of the U.S.. Forget job creation, just further job loss.

Ford is now building a plant in Mexico and Cadillac announced an assembly plant in China. These are high paying jobs we're talking about that will depart the U.S..

It has to stop. Period. There is only one candidate that MIGHT stop it. (Do not be too surprised when the UAW comes out an endorses Trump...as has the Union representing the border patrol.)

So you can run the Hitler gambit as long as you want. More and more people see this issue as a virtual survival point for the U.S..

The fight's on for the direction of this country and I look forward to an overwhelming Trump victory over the shill, Hillary.



It is not going to stop. We are in a post-industrial country for the most part. We needed to find new ways of doing things because of it.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
China needs us and the goods they get from us we do not need China. Trump kblws this and yes China is raping us in the markets.

We should be using our leverage to tariff their goods and tell them to STFU.



LOL. Explain how Trump could Tariff Chinese goods? He can't. We have no Trade deals with China. WE and China are both in the WTO, and thus must keep free trade open with all WTO members.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: defiythelie

Well, maybe it is time we withdraw from WTO then huh?? I don't see it bringing any prosperity to the regular, folks. Just more debt to buy $200 Jordans, $700 iphones, and #ty toys. Usually the ones that proclaim these are reactionary isolationist views are the only ones actually prospering very well off under WTO one sided trading with China.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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'We can't continue to allow China to rape our country'


He's just saying the Oligarchs in this country haven't finished raping it yet.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 11:48 PM
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a reply to: defiythelie


What is a "post-industrial country"? It sounds like a rational right out of TPTB who are cleaning up from this shift to Asia.


All I ask for is a level playing field with China. Penalties for those Corporations that would use the profits made in the U.S. to finance moves elsewhere. These people think with profit and loss. Fair enough. Make them lose by relocating and profit from remaining.

Now there's some 'new way of doing things'. We are in accord!......



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:45 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: defiythelie


What is a "post-industrial country"? It sounds like a rational right out of TPTB who are cleaning up from this shift to Asia.


All I ask for is a level playing field with China. Penalties for those Corporations that would use the profits made in the U.S. to finance moves elsewhere. These people think with profit and loss. Fair enough. Make them lose by relocating and profit from remaining.

Now there's some 'new way of doing things'. We are in accord!......




We will get a level playing field as China themselves are moving a away from Manufacturing and Mexico and possible some African country will pick up that slack.

Post-industrial country is:




of or relating to an economy that no longer relies on heavy industry





In sociology, the post-industrial society is the stage of society's development when the service sector generates more wealth than the manufacturing sector of the economy.





A post-industrial economy refers to a period of growth within an industrialized economy or nation in which the relative importance of manufacturing reduces and that of services, information, and research grows.

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posted on May, 13 2016 @ 02:07 AM
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a reply to: defiythelie


How about calling it "No longer in control
of your own economy"? Or perhaps "Pre-third world Status"?

Sorry, but I won't buy into that premise and I believe the majority of Americans don't either.



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