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originally posted by: dffrntkndfnml
Metaphysics and philosophy also attempt to explain and understand the universe.
Alot of the posts in the thread assume the op is contemplating the idea of the "Christian" God.Western thoughthas a history of going much deeper when it comes to contemplating the nature of the divine.The Greeks for example shined in this department, the Stoics, Neoplatonists, and Pythagoreans to name a few.Hermetics is also worth taking a look at, all these framing the divine in the context of the natural laws operating in our lives...
originally posted by: noonebutme
The problem with natural law is it's untestable and subject to the philosopher who then applies their own philosophical mandate of natural law.
Scientific law *is* testable. It isn't meant to be subject to personal opinion or personal bias.
However I am not in the slightest saying natural law is incorrect or that it does not have its place.
originally posted by: youcanttellthepeople
My point is, as bad as my situation was, you've only got to look at the world around you to realise it is just an illusion, and ultimately we alone are responsible for our actions, and what happens. There is no, in my personal opinion, magical deity in control of anything. The sooner we realise this as a species, the better off we'll be.
originally posted by: Gyo01
a reply to: Miracula2
Anyone can change the words in a book. Wanna see me do it?
originally posted by: noonebutme
a reply to: clevargenuis
Perhaps, but in the context of what earth-based scriptures suggest, God is immortal and immaterial and created everything. Something which is a huge claim to make with no evidence to support it.
originally posted by: clevargenuis
I do agree with atheists that religions have caused problems but so what? democracy and capitalism also cause problems, it just depends on perspective. .
Not quite unlike telepathy. I gonna stop before I sound too crazy...