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posted on Jan, 13 2005 @ 07:08 PM
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I'm just wondering people's opinions on this art. Wheither or not it is an evil art or not and if anyone on this board is an exclusive necromancer. I'm personally undecided as to whether or not it is an evil activity. Although I'm sure this fact has alot to do with what you are trying to accomplish.




posted on Jan, 13 2005 @ 07:17 PM
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Please provide your perceived definition of this term. I understand it to be divination through communicating with the dead. Is that your understanding? If so, first of all I am not personally 100% convinced this is possible - have you ever done it? Further, what is evil? What are the criteria for identifying evil? I'm not sure I believe in that concept either so I guess I've been no help but am curious to see others views.



posted on Jan, 13 2005 @ 07:21 PM
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.... Reminds me of Necrophilia...
sorry, but I just couldn't resist, I'm probably a nasty guy.

But does necromancy really exist? Or just the definition of a fake art? These days so many people want to be famous, that they can come up with just about anything. And many casuals buy into them.



posted on Jan, 13 2005 @ 07:25 PM
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Necromancy is The practice of supposedly communicating with the spirits of the dead in order to predict the future ,and also forms of Black magic. such as the belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits to produce unnatural effects in the world conjuring up the dead.

If any of this is true I dont think it would be inherently good or evil. It would all depend on the person and the way that person used it.



posted on Jan, 13 2005 @ 07:42 PM
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That's clear. But why the heck would the dead spirits know the future? Why would they be smarter than we are?! It doesn't make sense. Why would those spirits be able to think at all? Do they have a brain?



posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 05:46 PM
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Note: their isnt any "evil" everything has its ups and downs.

Note: Do NOT study dark majik I just warn you. I dont know if necromancy is dark majik.

To look for spells close to what you want first make sure you know what majik is. (that advice is for everyone) Majik is not fire balls and turning people into toads. (I had to learn from the ground up and everything and I still havent been able to cast a spell.)

Finaly look for contacting the dead, I believe I came across a few summening spells that involve the dead. Might work for you

Last Note: DONT do anything stupid ask people here for advice. I am an idiot compared to most of them, so dont think I know everything.



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 02:18 PM
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elemtalsage, thanks just one question cause you probabyl know more about majic than me. Do you think I could get myself into some major trouble if I dabbled a little with necromancy?



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by elemtalsage

Finaly look for contacting the dead, I believe I came across a few summening spells that involve the dead. Might work for you



Like what?



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 06:13 PM
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vertu - it is a common belief that when you die you go to a place where there is no time, in other words past, present and future is one. so naturally they would know the future, although obviously no one can confirm that since no-one has proved that necromany actually works. There are some stories but they sound like the typical zombie horror stories.

I think that necromancy is a dangerous art and definately one of the dark arts, i think this is because when you are summoning one or more spirits, i believe that you are opening up a sort of portal and you never know what might come through there.



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 09:45 AM
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It depends on what you think is evil.

It is considered dangerous though. Here is a link - www.themystica.org...

Elemtalsage, when you say you haven't been able to cast a spell yet, do you mean it hasn't worked or you don't understand how?



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 01:49 PM
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in video games necromancers are always the ones summoning dead people to fight off monsters for them. LOL

on a more serious note..
I think it is dark magic as well. Personally i don't see the point in doing it. i say the future is what you make of it so let it be a suprise. Now i know there was a debate on the concept of evil so let me just say that since im a christian i obviously believe in a concept of evil. So im speaking from my beliefs here... why would you trust something that came from the dead(if it is even possible for us to do that) You don't know what its motivates are.
And if people in america could do this i guarentee you most people would ask for the next billon dollar winning lotto number and why would some dead spirit want to help you out? Its not like you can give him a cut of your winnings. If i were dead i would want to be left alone. If someone called me back from heaven (which is where i hope im going) and ( i dont believe that when you would try necromancy that they would come from heaven either .)was like Hey can you give me the winning lottery numbers? or when am i going to die? i would be so pissed i would smack them in the face and leave.


Kind Regards,
DigitalGrl



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 03:30 PM
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I'm just curious about researching and maybe trying to perform some of this magic. If anyone has some good links on the subject can you post them for me. Thanks



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 06:36 PM
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There is no such thing as dark magic.

Are there evil hammers and good hammers? There is not a single hammer at Home Depot that was specifically designed to bash in skulls, but you could use a hammer for that if you wanted.

Magic is a tool as well. Really good magic can have really awful results if done incorrectly or with the wrong intent - but the magic itself is neither good or bad.



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by wellwhatnow
There is no such thing as dark magic.

Are there evil hammers and good hammers? There is not a single hammer at Home Depot that was specifically designed to bash in skulls, but you could use a hammer for that if you wanted.

Magic is a tool as well. Really good magic can have really awful results if done incorrectly or with the wrong intent - but the magic itself is neither good or bad.


Good analogy of the hammer except that there is a big difference between home hardware being the store of choice and say the medeival armour sho. They have warhammers so what is the real tool you are using is the question. Is the tool originally designed to do harm or is it a building tool.



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 08:45 PM
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i don't know much about magic but i know about ethics and who is to say that the warhammer being used to kill people is a bad thing what if it is in self defence hmmmmmm. So really its all a matter of perception



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 12:31 AM
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I dunno, I sort of consider things like ouija boards and seances to sort of be a type of necromancy, and I'm sure we've all heard horror stories about stumbling across something you shouldn't have. Then again, most of the time people doing this don't really know what they're doing. I guess whether it's good or bad all depends on what exactly you end up dealing with, but personally it's not something I'm brave enough to mess with.

My dumb question for the day: what is the difference between necromancy and being a medium?



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 01:10 AM
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Put simply my personal view on evil is the intent to destruct, in a negative manner - causing unnecessary pain, etc. Good on the other hand is the intent to create in a useful and beneficial manner for others. Although there would be times for the opposite - good destroying things for the benefit of others, whilst evil may create things to add to the pain for others (or add to the 'self' at others' expense). Perhaps evil focuses more on the 'self' whilst good may focus more on the 'other'. There would be more to it but that's how I differentiate.

My personal focus is to stay neutral with a slight slant towards good
. I also think it could be a bit dangerous saying there's no such thing as evil and good, because moral judgement relies upon the differentiation of both. I agree, the words are manmade but for things to exist there must be opposites, eg day / night, strong / weak, etc. Theory of Yin / Yang. A perfect balance of Yin / Yang is Wu-Chi but that's a story for another day.

Upon the subject of necromancy - I have no idea, I have not delved nor studied the art you are talking about, with the exception of playing computer games such as Diablo 2 which does indeed summon skeletons, golems and resurrects corpses as faithful bidding minions! Muhahahaha.

- Nazgarn



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 02:37 AM
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I would have to say that necromancy is neither good or evil. However, this is not saying much because the lines between good and evil will change from person to person. I am starting to think that good and evil are connected in some form.

As for communicating with the dead, I would have to say that the communication is about getting some form of information. This is why it would be neither good or evil by itself. Some people may not be ready for the information they get by communicating with the dead.

I would advise anyone who dose not know what they are doing to stay away from necromancy. If you wish to learn about it the best thing you can do is to learn as much as you can before you even think about starting to dabble in the craft.

[edit on 20-1-2005 by Styki]



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 07:31 AM
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now in video games like baldurs gate you can't be a necromancer and cast regular spells because they have a different effect i wonder if the same idea would apply to real life if these things were possible.



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Mxyztos
I'm just curious about researching and maybe trying to perform some of this magic. If anyone has some good links on the subject can you post them for me. Thanks



What is your goal in trying to "perform some of this magic". If you have an idle curiosity then I assure you, you will NOT succeed in even the simplest of manifestations. Without the proper conviction of the craft you will not succeed. Every cell in your body must align with the belief that you ARE power and capable of this extraordinary feet. Not a belief in the spell but a belief in the totality of the "pagan way" for lack of a better term.



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