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Are you an authoritarian or a libertarian?

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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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Are you an authoritarian or a libertarian?

No parties. No partisan politics BS. Do you want maximum freedom or maximum security?

-Do you support ownership of your body?
-Are you against a monopoly of power/force/control?
-Are you against centralized power/force/control?
-Do you believe in bare minimum government or no government at all?
-Do you believe in Non-Aggression Principle?
-Do you believe in strangers robbing you to give to corporations?
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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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Libertarian with anarchist tendencies



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Same here.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Definitley Libertarian at this point in my life.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:43 PM
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Libertarian with social safety nets, I know that confuses the situation.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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Why does it have to be all or nothing? This implies there isn't some form of middle ground. Complete anarchy is horrendous, as is being trapped in a real dictatorship. But most people prefer something in between.

I prefer a well organized society with safeguards and fair rules. It's even better if we add in advanced technologies, equal access to the latest medical and scientific advances, and things like that. What's so bad about that?



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Libertarian.

I don't think you'll get anyone to say they are for authoritarianism. They'll say they are for "smart government", they'll say they are for socialism, but they'll never use the word " authoritarian".

Until they gain control. Then it won't matter anymore because YOUR opinion won't matter.
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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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Imo...most of the people claiming to be Libertarian are actually Republicans that don't want to be associated with
the Cluster **** that has become the GOP.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Imo...most of the people claiming to be Libertarian are actually Republicans that don't want to be associated with
the Cluster **** that has become the GOP.


I would agree with that, but I am actually independent. Social liberal and fiscal conservative.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Until they gain control. Then it won't matter anymore because YOUR opinion won't matter.

Who are they and what kind of control are you talking about?

As for the OP, I can say that I am for or against all the things you list but in the real world whatever I am for or against means next to nothing.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
Are you an authoritarian or a libertarian?

No parties. No partisan politics BS.


Alright! Something I can sink my teeth into.



Do you want maximum freedom or maximum security?


Wait, i thought you said no partisan bs. What gives?

Imma just drop this here for ya'll to chew on
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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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With a proper education system maybe we wouldn't have to be defined by isms in order to have a functioning society that everyone can live however they want with little interaction with others should they so choose.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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With a proper education system maybe we wouldn't have to be defined by isms in order to have a functioning society that everyone can live however they want with little interaction with others should they so choose.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:09 AM
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Hmm I am an American, do not like that answer too bad.


I can see value in both sides of both political axis, but then I was the type that had Nine different d&D characters one of each alignment and played them all to the hilt.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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The man who would sacrifice Liberty for safety deserves neither



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:39 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
The man who would sacrifice Liberty for safety deserves neither


While I know this is actually a famous quote, I pose the counter point,

US servicemen and women do Sacrifice their Liberty for the Safety of others, by the line in that quote does that explain why vets are treated the way they are?
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:45 AM
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a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Libertarian.

And there is no such thing as maximum security. (except in a federal prison) That is a phrase authoritarians use to fool you into supporting their extreme losses of freedom legislation wrapped in a package that makes people think it will be something it never can be., which by the way, leaves you even more exposed and unable to defend yourself in a crisis than you would be having more freedoms.
And after you lose freedoms that were sold along with the promise that you would be more secure, you definitely are NOT more secure or safe.



Those who promise you more safety, never even make a single attempt to help peoples lives be safer, nope, what they do is make it so you are far less safe and secure, and left without the freedoms necessary for people to defend themselves and be responsible for themselves in an independent and traditional American fashion, which by the way NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:56 AM
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a reply to: CoBaZ

Yes. Who was it Franklin I think. But you are reading it wrong. Our service men and women sacrifices thier safety for our liberty. And they deserve the most. Thier treatment by our government is politics.

I.E. The logic is directional. If a then b does not mean if b then a
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 02:10 AM
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A rational libertarian, got to have some control at least and common sense.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: CoBaZ
Hmm I am an American, do not like that answer too bad.


I can see value in both sides of both political axis, but then I was the type that had Nine different d&D characters one of each alignment and played them all to the hilt.



Our military doesn't do much to protect us. In fact, i'd argue the opposite. The nonsense going on in the middle east, and latin America is due to our military (or paramilitary, like the CIA or its contractors).

When you enlist, you are remunerated with cash, and you typically expect future benefits (hiring preference, job training, GI bill, etc). As a non veteran, there are many services that are just not available to me.

That isn't to say things like the VA shouldn't be corrected. Only that expecting the civilians to have hero worship for our men in uniform is unfounded.



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