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The F-35 fighter jet was supposed to do a bit of everything, as James Fallows explains in "The Tragedy of the American Military". Instead, the aircraft can barely do anything: it has trouble flying at night, its engines have exploded during takeoff, and early models suffered structural cracks. There's no end in sight, either. The all-in costs of this airplane are estimated to be as much as $1.5 trillion. (That's approximately the same price as the entire Iraq War.) In this video, Fallows explains how such a disastrous project came to be—and why it can't be stopped.
originally posted by: makemap
American Dollar is way too high for any US allies to even afford them. You can't blame them.
F-22 is currently the best fighter than no one is allowed to purchase. This leads to other nations building their own or buying it from other nations. Russian alternative is much cheaper and better than US alternative. Same with the French Rafale.
The generational system worked for awhile, but it has become a hindrance far more than helpful anymore.
Leave the definitions where they belong, in the dictionary, and just get the aircraft into service.
The Rafale certainly isn't a Fifth Generation, and the Russian alternative might not be, depending on which definition you use
The T-50 meets most of the definitions of a Fifth Generation fighter, but, depending on who's talking, it's either a 4.5+++ or even a 4.75 because some of the features are unknowns
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: MALBOSIA
The current CF-18 fleet are older airframes, which are starting to see parts problems. Some of their parts are no longer made, and others are expensive to get.
The Super Hornet will, in 10 or 15 years be in the same place the Eagle and Viper are now. Good airframes, still useful, but less effective than they were. If you get something like the Typhoon, or F-35, you're getting an aircraft that will be relevant until the 2040s or 50s. That means you're not back here again in 15 years.
The F-4, which came about the same time, was a Third Generation fighter, and ran about $2.4M for an E in 1965 dollars. The F-14 Tomcat, which entered service in 1975, and was a Fourth Generation fighter, cost $35M per aircraft. And even incremental changes in generations add large costs to the aircraft. The F-18 is considered a 4.5 Generation aircraft, and costs $65.3M per aircraft for a Super Hornet
Instead of building the best design for the mission, designers are worried about fitting everything that a Fifth Generation aircraft is supposed to have onto one airframe.
Where an F-15SE might work better for a nation that is buying an F-35, if they want a Fifth Generation fighter, which they're being convinced will be required to survive future conflicts, they have to buy the F-35,