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TRUMP...Most Votes In GOP History

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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
Wow.. I checked out your link www.realclearpolitics.com... correct me if I'm wrong but
Sanders beats Trump by double in most polls www.realclearpolitics.com...
and way out scores Clinton vs Trump. Love how the msm reflects
how Americans actually feel (sarcasm)


Sanders destroys Trump in a general election. He is the DEMs best chance, much more so than Hillary. Trump does have an outside chance of making up the ground to beat Hillary, but I would say he'd be a dead man walking if Sanders were his opponent.


Sanders gets too emotional.

Trump would get under his skin.


Maybe, but I think Trump's only chance is drawing some Sanders voters to beat Hillary. There is no way it would work if he had to draw Hillary voters to beat Sanders.


I am not anti-Trump, but I am anti-Trump for president. IMO he needs some political experience. Would like to see him in a political position for the next 4 years, then I'd have a better idea how he'd handle it.

I don't think Trump could win a debate with Hillary.

I see Sanders supporters not voting at all, more then ever supporting Trump.


I think political experience causes more pro lens then it solves. Once people get into the house or senate they learn how to take bribes.and set up pacs.


I tend to agree - I've never been that comfortable with the idea of political experience. I don't feel like there is a such a thing as a political skill per se, just a collection of talents that are necessary to succeed in that world that can be learned and honed elsewhere.




posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Lest there be any remaining doubt that Trump represents a powerful new movement in U.S. history.

The movement of letting gullibility override rationality? I will agree though, this gullibility IS much more powerful than I originally assumed.


the voters for trump remind me of this movie...
www.imdb.com...
it's the film "idiocracy" starring luke wilson



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

See, here's the thing....

We are adults. This is not grade school. Mature adults are not going to change their views just because some people choose to call them names. Peer pressure is not going to work. Name calling is juvenile. Logical discussions might sway people as it opens their mind to things they may not have considered before, but calling people names - nah, not going to work here.

And, this is ATS. One thing I like about it here is that people like to debate with logic, facts, and common sense. Sure, people have differing opinions. But unlike some immature social media platforms where propaganda is taken as the truth and memes and "likes" are the deciding factor in people judging if things are true, ATS members seem to like to actually use reason.
(although some recent posts I have seen make me wonder why those people are even trying here)

So, posts like this just make me shake my head in wonder, as well as some sadness.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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Here are more low information anti-Trumpers. Not only ignorant but antagonistic.
This guy talks about American interventionism and somehow gets round to blaming Trump. Total bunch of clowns.
Some of them have the good sense to be embarrassed enough to hide their faces.

Again this is how an anti-Trumper looks, acts and sounds. Comical.




posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
Wow.. I checked out your link www.realclearpolitics.com... correct me if I'm wrong but
Sanders beats Trump by double in most polls www.realclearpolitics.com...
and way out scores Clinton vs Trump. Love how the msm reflects
how Americans actually feel (sarcasm)


Sanders destroys Trump in a general election. He is the DEMs best chance, much more so than Hillary. Trump does have an outside chance of making up the ground to beat Hillary, but I would say he'd be a dead man walking if Sanders were his opponent.


Sanders gets too emotional.

Trump would get under his skin.


Maybe, but I think Trump's only chance is drawing some Sanders voters to beat Hillary. There is no way it would work if he had to draw Hillary voters to beat Sanders.


I am not anti-Trump, but I am anti-Trump for president. IMO he needs some political experience. Would like to see him in a political position for the next 4 years, then I'd have a better idea how he'd handle it.

I don't think Trump could win a debate with Hillary.

I see Sanders supporters not voting at all, more then ever supporting Trump.


I think political experience causes more pro lens then it solves. Once people get into the house or senate they learn how to take bribes.and set up pacs.


Squeaky Clean Donald? Please tell me you are not painting that picture.

Of course deals are made - - that's how it should be, and used to be - - not like our current obstructionist Congress.

Bribes are illegal. Pacs? Same as deals really.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
. . . somehow gets round to blaming Trump. Total bunch of clowns.



When it comes to the Blame Game, Trump, well trumps.

So, he's a clown?



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth
. . . somehow gets round to blaming Trump. Total bunch of clowns.



When it comes to the Blame Game, Trump, well trumps.

So, he's a clown?


To protest against all the illegal wars and American interventionism costing the lives of hundreds of thousands and then blame Trump for it is comical. That is my point. Would you disagree?

The guy in that video is a clown and the morons squealing and insulting people to their faces and throwing eggs are nothing more than vermin.

Give me a situation where Trump has blamed someone for something with such a clear disconnect to reality. If there is something then I will call him a clown for it too. He certainly has his faults, which I have outlined many times.
edit on 30/4/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)

edit on 30/4/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

Give me a situation where Trump has blamed someone for something with such a clear disconnect to reality. If there is something then I will call him a clown for it too. He certainly has his faults, which I have outlined many times.


But, you agree with much of what Trump says. To me, every time he opens his mouth he insults someone.

I gotta tell you, my office manager 20+ years ago loved Howard Stern. He blasted that show across the company sound system every day. Trump was a frequent guest. So, I heard a lot of Trump long before this. Not saying he's a bad guy, but his ego is off the charts.

We know he likes to be the Head Cheese. But, politics is far more then that. I want to see him function in a lower political position first.


edit on 30-4-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

Give me a situation where Trump has blamed someone for something with such a clear disconnect to reality. If there is something then I will call him a clown for it too. He certainly has his faults, which I have outlined many times.


But, you agree with much of what Trump says. To me, every time he opens his mouth he insults someone.

I gotta tell you, my office manager 20+ years ago loved Howard Stern. He blasted that show across the company sound system every day. Trump was a frequent guest. So, I heard a lot of Trump long before this. Not saying he's a bad guy, but his ego is off the charts.

We know he likes to be the Head Cheese. But, politics is far more then that. I want to see him function in a lower political position first.



Trump has a massive ego, is thin skinned, has a big mouth, doesn't know when to STFU and speaks too much off the top of his head.
I also find him frustrating at times when I listen to him in a 'friendly' interview in so much that he doesn't open up and answer the question in the context it was asked. Some of his interviews on the Michael Savage show are good examples of that.

That's my view of his weaknesses. I do not believe he is either racist or sexist and I don't believe that he is dumb. Those themes of insults just don't stand up to any scrutiny. In fact I'd go as far as saying he is one of the least sexist or racist people I have ever heard. His achievements and statements from people who know him also tells me he is one very smart man. It's quite interesting when you hear some of his speeches about the property development business - he knows it inside out. Where he might struggle is delegating responsibility to people who know better in specific areas. It's certainly something I think he would need to overcome as President.

As for experience generally though, as i stated before I can't think of a single skill required for politics that can not be learned elsewhere, completely outside of public office, so I just don't view politics as a career that mirrors something like medicine or law, or indeed any profession where specialist training or experience is required.
edit on 30/4/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
Wow.. I checked out your link www.realclearpolitics.com... correct me if I'm wrong but
Sanders beats Trump by double in most polls www.realclearpolitics.com...
and way out scores Clinton vs Trump. Love how the msm reflects
how Americans actually feel (sarcasm)


Sanders destroys Trump in a general election. He is the DEMs best chance, much more so than Hillary. Trump does have an outside chance of making up the ground to beat Hillary, but I would say he'd be a dead man walking if Sanders were his opponent.


Sanders gets too emotional.

Trump would get under his skin.


Maybe, but I think Trump's only chance is drawing some Sanders voters to beat Hillary. There is no way it would work if he had to draw Hillary voters to beat Sanders.


I am not anti-Trump, but I am anti-Trump for president. IMO he needs some political experience. Would like to see him in a political position for the next 4 years, then I'd have a better idea how he'd handle it.

I don't think Trump could win a debate with Hillary.

I see Sanders supporters not voting at all, more then ever supporting Trump.


I think political experience causes more pro lens then it solves. Once people get into the house or senate they learn how to take bribes.and set up pacs.


Squeaky Clean Donald? Please tell me you are not painting that picture.

Of course deals are made - - that's how it should be, and used to be - - not like our current obstructionist Congress.

Bribes are illegal. Pacs? Same as deals really.





Sad you don't understand the difference between Govt and business. Businesses are there to make money. Politicians are supposed to be there to represent the people and not their bank account. Selling out the people and their in tress to make money is wrong. But the people that makes the rules set it up so they get huge paydays leaving office. For example when Obama leaves office the man with the largest campaign funds in history gets to keep it all millions of dollars.

Then there is foundations and pacs. Who can make payments for politicians and even write it off. So if I'm a businessman or even a foreign Govt I donate say 100k and I bought a politician and they can pass laws to help me. Just saw a great example of this with Hillary and the release by anonymous. She took in millions from banks and governments. Are you naive enough to think a company gives away millions and expects nothing.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: jimmyx

See, here's the thing....

We are adults. This is not grade school. Mature adults are not going to change their views just because some people choose to call them names. Peer pressure is not going to work. Name calling is juvenile. Logical discussions might sway people as it opens their mind to things they may not have considered before, but calling people names - nah, not going to work here.

And, this is ATS. One thing I like about it here is that people like to debate with logic, facts, and common sense. Sure, people have differing opinions. But unlike some immature social media platforms where propaganda is taken as the truth and memes and "likes" are the deciding factor in people judging if things are true, ATS members seem to like to actually use reason.
(although some recent posts I have seen make me wonder why those people are even trying here)

So, posts like this just make me shake my head in wonder, as well as some sadness.



you mean my post?.....have you heard HOW Trump will do what he wants to do, if he is elected president?......so.....I'm not using "reason" when I ask for details?....



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

Give me a situation where Trump has blamed someone for something with such a clear disconnect to reality. If there is something then I will call him a clown for it too. He certainly has his faults, which I have outlined many times.


But, you agree with much of what Trump says. To me, every time he opens his mouth he insults someone.

I gotta tell you, my office manager 20+ years ago loved Howard Stern. He blasted that show across the company sound system every day. Trump was a frequent guest. So, I heard a lot of Trump long before this. Not saying he's a bad guy, but his ego is off the charts.

We know he likes to be the Head Cheese. But, politics is far more then that. I want to see him function in a lower political position first.



Trump has a massive ego, is thin skinned, has a big mouth, doesn't know when to STFU and speaks too much off the top of his head.
I also find him frustrating at times when I listen to him in a 'friendly' interview in so much that he doesn't open up and answer the question in the context it was asked.

That's my view of his weaknesses. I do not believe he is either racist or sexist and I don't believe that he is dumb. Those themes of insults just don't stand up to any scrutiny.

As for experience, as i stated before I can't think of a single skill required for politics that can not be learned elsewhere, completely outside of public office, so I just don't view politics as a career that mirrors something like medicine or law, or indeed any profession where specialist training or experience is required.


We seem to be more in agreement then not. I don't really discuss my personal politics as they are a bit extreme, I'm not Liberal (social/equality Yes, other no). "That Which is Not Earned Has No Value".

I voted for Perot because he was a business man, not a politician. But, then I got more into understanding high level/international politics and changed my mind. I no longer felt that a businessman was the right fit. I feel there are too many twists and turns and negotiating at this international level. A real delicate balance. I just see Trump as too much of an "I'm right, you're wrong" kind of guy,

LOL, you got me to talk. Its rare



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

This one again?

www.donaldjtrump.com...



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

Give me a situation where Trump has blamed someone for something with such a clear disconnect to reality. If there is something then I will call him a clown for it too. He certainly has his faults, which I have outlined many times.


But, you agree with much of what Trump says. To me, every time he opens his mouth he insults someone.

I gotta tell you, my office manager 20+ years ago loved Howard Stern. He blasted that show across the company sound system every day. Trump was a frequent guest. So, I heard a lot of Trump long before this. Not saying he's a bad guy, but his ego is off the charts.

We know he likes to be the Head Cheese. But, politics is far more then that. I want to see him function in a lower political position first.



Trump has a massive ego, is thin skinned, has a big mouth, doesn't know when to STFU and speaks too much off the top of his head.
I also find him frustrating at times when I listen to him in a 'friendly' interview in so much that he doesn't open up and answer the question in the context it was asked.

That's my view of his weaknesses. I do not believe he is either racist or sexist and I don't believe that he is dumb. Those themes of insults just don't stand up to any scrutiny.

As for experience, as i stated before I can't think of a single skill required for politics that can not be learned elsewhere, completely outside of public office, so I just don't view politics as a career that mirrors something like medicine or law, or indeed any profession where specialist training or experience is required.


We seem to be more in agreement then not. I don't really discuss my personal politics as they are a bit extreme, I'm not Liberal (social/equality Yes, other no). "That Which is Not Earned Has No Value".

I voted for Perot because he was a business man, not a politician. But, then I got more into understanding high level/international politics and changed my mind. I no longer felt that a businessman was the right fit. I feel there are too many twists and turns and negotiating at this international level. A real delicate balance. I just see Trump as too much of an "I'm right, you're wrong" kind of guy,

LOL, you got me to talk. Its rare


It's a rarity to get anyone to talk about Trump sensibly.
I think the business angle can be good in politics, however it's not a panacea by any means. It's not always profit that is the aim and I think Trump probably does approach too many problems with the goal of making money. I think he actually would be terrific for the economy, but he'd need to defer on foreign policy elements that involve potential military conflict. I really liked his foreign policy speech, but he clearly didn't write it, so I am hopeful he is starting to listen to others.

On social issues, I don't think he really focuses on it that much. He has some broad ideals that come through , which are actually more on the Democratic side, but they seem like a second priority to him. To an extent, he's probably right that a strong economy would solve a lot of the issues in minority communities and I think Trump also offers the best opportunity of any candidate for women and minorities to get a fair shake. The other candidates talk a lot but I they have done very little.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: jimmyx

See, here's the thing....

We are adults. This is not grade school. Mature adults are not going to change their views just because some people choose to call them names. Peer pressure is not going to work. Name calling is juvenile. Logical discussions might sway people as it opens their mind to things they may not have considered before, but calling people names - nah, not going to work here.

And, this is ATS. One thing I like about it here is that people like to debate with logic, facts, and common sense. Sure, people have differing opinions. But unlike some immature social media platforms where propaganda is taken as the truth and memes and "likes" are the deciding factor in people judging if things are true, ATS members seem to like to actually use reason.
(although some recent posts I have seen make me wonder why those people are even trying here)

So, posts like this just make me shake my head in wonder, as well as some sadness.



you mean my post?.....have you heard HOW Trump will do what he wants to do, if he is elected president?......so.....I'm not using "reason" when I ask for details?....


If you are waiting for a gantt chart showing detail of everything he will do and when, you might be disappointed. Beware people who give detail on how they will do things, especially those that have never been President. Why in the world would Trump go into detail when he knows only some of the facts? Probably very few. The president will hold information that Trump has no clue about, nor does anyone else outside of the inner circle of decision makers. The only thing that should be expected are positions, goals and desired outcomes.. i.e. what does he want to work towards.

How would you like to be asked in an interview to produce a detailed plan of everything you are going to do prior to day 1 of starting the job. It's impossible. Some people do actually try that as an interview technique and I have interviewed a few in the past. It nearly always ends in a car crash of an interview with mistakes and inaccuracies galore.

Work on the principal that if a politician gives detail prior to being in office, they are lying.
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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 06:09 PM
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Try listening to him in speeches and his website he gives a surprising amount of details for not having held office. But again he has Jeff sessions as a foreign policy advisor. I actually thought this was a brilliant move by Donald with his position in the senate he understands military and forign policy. Almost makes me repeat Donald in his decision making.unfortunately his mouth ruins the package.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: jimmyx

This one again?

www.donaldjtrump.com...



c'mon....there are so many holes in that plan it could be Swiss cheese....I'll keep asking the question of "HOW" he will do all this? every point he makes on that site would be doable, IF he was a dictator.....you think the repubs in congress are just going to roll over and kiss the donalds feet?...do you think that world leaders are just a bunch of fearful idiots ready to roll over because "the Donald" has negotiated real estate deals?



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: jimmyx

This one again?

www.donaldjtrump.com...



c'mon....there are so many holes in that plan it could be Swiss cheese....I'll keep asking the question of "HOW" he will do all this? every point he makes on that site would be doable, IF he was a dictator.....you think the repubs in congress are just going to roll over and kiss the donalds feet?...do you think that world leaders are just a bunch of fearful idiots ready to roll over because "the Donald" has negotiated real estate deals?


Keep on asking all you like. You won't get an answer and nor should you. Even if you did, you'd have no clue as to whether it was good or bad.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere Sorry but Trump is going to decimate that woman, I will take a bet online and win.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: HolgerTheDane2 You sound like a tyical sore loser Bernie supporter,,,,don't be sad, Join us fascists and we can have a drum circle with some not hotties ,,,fine with me....or is that fascist




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