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TRUMP...Most Votes In GOP History

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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth



Says the man who has no clue how many votes have even been cast, yet is willing to offer the information in complete ignorance.


I said I believe and it was just off the top of my head. I do apologize. I know you have to capitalize on such small mistakes, and I don't blame you. Considering our last conversation in which you begged for me to stop, I can see that my mistake has given you a bit of confidence back.

Good for you.




Trump is still trying to win the nomination.


Unless the GOP pulls some shady stuff, Trump has the nod. Time to start looking forward.



I actually do understand why some people would like to use information not relevant to the current election. It's to support a narrative.


You're refusing to look at that information because it's going to be tough to swallow. You only want to focus on the GOP aspect, because once you look beyond that, it gets a bit dicey.



Funnily enough Clinton is far less popular according to the polls as Sanders, but she is beating him easily in the election. Maybe that favorability rating is not that important after all. Just a thought. Try and look a bit broader, otherwise you come across as 'low information'.


Whatever you to tell yourself is fine. I was only addressing the fact that Trumps favorability has been going down. We will have to wait and see what that means in terms of actual votes.




posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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Since this the first time since voting in the primaries started in the GOP it is no surprise. Since the primary is normally over after Super Tuesday nobody tends to vote after because it does not matter. Now with one so close people are voting most for the first time where their primary counts for anything.

Of course this means nothing in the national election. Even winning the majority of the Republican and independent votes is not enough for a GOP candidate they need to dip into the Democratic votes as Kerry learned to took the GOP and Independents but failed to get enough Democratic votes. Indies and Dems are not fond of Trump or Cruz. That is bad news.

Worse news is when you look at the electoral college and try to make those numbers work,



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: MrSpad
Since this the first time since voting in the primaries started in the GOP it is no surprise. Since the primary is normally over after Super Tuesday nobody tends to vote after because it does not matter. Now with one so close people are voting most for the first time where their primary counts for anything.

Of course this means nothing in the national election. Even winning the majority of the Republican and independent votes is not enough for a GOP candidate they need to dip into the Democratic votes as Kerry learned to took the GOP and Independents but failed to get enough Democratic votes. Indies and Dems are not fond of Trump or Cruz. That is bad news.

Worse news is when you look at the electoral college and try to make those numbers work,


Exactly, and that is why Trump's overall favorability is important here. He pretty much has the GOP nomination in check. They need to start looking at the bigger picture and that bigger picture does not look good.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



Says the man who has no clue how many votes have even been cast, yet is willing to offer the information in complete ignorance.


I said I believe and it was just off the top of my head. I do apologize. I know you have to capitalize on such small mistakes, and I don't blame you. Considering our last conversation in which you begged for me to stop, I can see that my mistake has given you a bit of confidence back.

Good for you.




Trump is still trying to win the nomination.


Unless the GOP pulls some shady stuff, Trump has the nod. Time to start looking forward.



I actually do understand why some people would like to use information not relevant to the current election. It's to support a narrative.


You're refusing to look at that information because it's going to be tough to swallow. You only want to focus on the GOP aspect, because once you look beyond that, it gets a bit dicey.



Funnily enough Clinton is far less popular according to the polls as Sanders, but she is beating him easily in the election. Maybe that favorability rating is not that important after all. Just a thought. Try and look a bit broader, otherwise you come across as 'low information'.


Whatever you to tell yourself is fine. I was only addressing the fact that Trumps favorability has been going down. We will have to wait and see what that means in terms of actual votes.


Can't blame me for that - you have spent the last few posts telling all Trump voters they are low information and then can't even be bothered to have the right information to hand before offering voting counts. I can't help it if you make yourself look like a low information person. Maybe next time you will do some work and stop misinforming people.

As for Trump, it's my personal view he is not getting to 1237. I have run a lot of scenarios. IF he wins Indiana he has a good chance, but lose it and it's a long shot. Indiana is too close for Trump to weather swing votes from Kasich to Cruz so I think Cruz will take Indiana. Trump's only chance is if voters are turned off in significant numbers by the 'deal' and switch to Trump instead. I have heard some stories of that, but it would need to happen in the thousands.

IN terms of favorability - I have already looked at the overall picture on many occasions.

It's quite clear that Hillary is the favourite in a match up to Trump, but I maintain that favorability information is not a great indicator this far out for November votes. Even if we got to November and they are the same, it's no guarantee that votes will be correlated to favorability. As an example, who do you think has the highest unfavourability amongst Democrats between Clinton and Sanders?
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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

On one level its great that people are beginning to see the system is broken and are tired of the same used car salesman tactics.

On the other hand they are jumping from one used car salesman to another used car salesman.


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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth



Can't blame me for that - you have spent the last few posts telling all Trump voters they are low information and then can't even be bothered to have the right information to hand before offering voting counts.


I don't blame you. Gotta capitalize when you can. And yes, I do believe many are misinformed on the issues. I did not say low information. There is a difference.

Also, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. That is something I wish more people were willing to do.



It's quite clear that Hillary is the favourite in a match up to Trump


Tell that to the rest of the Trump-bots. They would disagree.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



Can't blame me for that - you have spent the last few posts telling all Trump voters they are low information and then can't even be bothered to have the right information to hand before offering voting counts.


I don't blame you. Gotta capitalize when you can. And yes, I do believe many are misinformed on the issues. I did not say low information. There is a difference.

Also, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. That is something I wish more people were willing to do.



It's quite clear that Hillary is the favourite in a match up to Trump


Tell that to the rest of the Trump-bots. They would disagree.


Fair enough.

I do think that many Trump supporters would accept Hillary is favorite in a match up right now. It's not a big focus for the ones I talk to though because the GOP Nomination is still very much in the mind. It's a bit pointless worrying about Trump vs Hilary when it may never happen and it's far far closer in real terms - forget delegates and votes - in the GOP race than is being reported in the media. Right now i'd say its 40/60 against Trump getting the nod at the convention.
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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



Can't blame me for that - you have spent the last few posts telling all Trump voters they are low information and then can't even be bothered to have the right information to hand before offering voting counts.


I don't blame you. Gotta capitalize when you can. And yes, I do believe many are misinformed on the issues. I did not say low information. There is a difference.

Also, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. That is something I wish more people were willing to do.



It's quite clear that Hillary is the favourite in a match up to Trump


Tell that to the rest of the Trump-bots. They would disagree.


Fair enough.

I do think that many Trump supporters would accept Hillary is favorite in a match up right now. It's not a big focus for the ones I talk to though because the GOP Nomination is still very much in the mind. It's a bit pointless worrying about Trump vs Hilary when it may never happen and it's far far closer in real terms - forget delegates and votes - in the GOP race than is being reported in the media. Right now i'd say its 40/60 against Trump getting the nod at the convention.


And this is exactly why I say wait till the November polls. A lot can happen in the next six months......Legal - Hillary and her emails, Trump with his Trump University....favorable/unfavorable will swing back and forth a number of times. It will be interesting indeed.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan.

Snowflakes will be melting everywhere as the silent majority shines brightly out of the abyss that was eight years of Obama.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan.

Snowflakes will be melting everywhere as the silent majority shines brightly out of the abyss that was eight years of Obama.


From your mouth to God's ears.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Considering that the GOP voted to not change the convention rules and Trump has almost 1,000 delegates locked-up, and possibly on track to have well over 1237, I think Trump will get the nod.


originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



Can't blame me for that - you have spent the last few posts telling all Trump voters they are low information and then can't even be bothered to have the right information to hand before offering voting counts.


I don't blame you. Gotta capitalize when you can. And yes, I do believe many are misinformed on the issues. I did not say low information. There is a difference.

Also, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. That is something I wish more people were willing to do.



It's quite clear that Hillary is the favourite in a match up to Trump


Tell that to the rest of the Trump-bots. They would disagree.


Fair enough.

I do think that many Trump supporters would accept Hillary is favorite in a match up right now. It's not a big focus for the ones I talk to though because the GOP Nomination is still very much in the mind. It's a bit pointless worrying about Trump vs Hilary when it may never happen and it's far far closer in real terms - forget delegates and votes - in the GOP race than is being reported in the media. Right now i'd say its 40/60 against Trump getting the nod at the convention.


And this is exactly why I say wait till the November polls. A lot can happen in the next six months......Legal - Hillary and her emails, Trump with his Trump University....favorable/unfavorable will swing back and forth a number of times. It will be interesting indeed.


That is true. I did read that a judge will allow the lawsuit against Trump University to go forward. Trump very well could screw this up for himself. As for Hillary, we will have to wait and see.



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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I would like to address the recent meme that CRUZ announced FIORINA as his VP running mate...

hmmm

that would result in a Cruz-Fiorina-Regime or CFR (think of CFR (council of foreign relations) the NWO prong of the illuminati trident)

now imagine just what kind of VP the Donald would choose...
I put just 3 persons, out of the many who would fit well with a trump regime, for your consideration->

a VP position for a Donald J Trump administration would sit well with either Jim Willie....Peter Schiff....John Williams

All Three people are well versed in rebuilding the corrupt, internal American governmental/political systems..
but Peter Schiff is the only 'ANTI-globalist/-NWO/-elitist' of this trinity of reformer persons that has attempted a run for president as an 'outsider'
~ a Trump-Schiff ticket.... would reduce to a big TS for the present tear-down-America-agenda of the Obama-Clinton Progressives/Socialists/covert Radicals intent upon making the USA a 3rd world, failure


TS will make for a short sweet bumper sticker campaign item aimed at the PC, market Manipulating, TBTF corrupt fiscal-&-political system (congress/Courts) that is under continual debasement by the sociopaths in power right now & for the past Plus 16 years

 


too bad the General Curtis Lemay is not available ,,, He would have fit well as a VP ! imho

 

ADD:


the TS slogan might even include Tear-down-this-Sham once Trump and Schiff team are campaigning against the democrat/establishment/Chicago-thug political machine
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posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: IAMTAT

This must be driving people insane!

They insult Trump, they insult the people that support Trump. And a record number still comes out to vote for the man.

hahahahahahahahahaha

This is hilarious!


Hahahahahaha! Exactly what I have been thinking for the last 8 months.

This is what it looks like when people can't handle reality.

soulwaxer



posted on Apr, 28 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Considering that the GOP voted to not change the convention rules and Trump has almost 1,000 delegates locked-up, and possibly on track to have well over 1237, I think Trump will get the nod.


That didn't mean much. All they said is that they would not change them before the convention. The rules committee can still 'do it's thing' as part of the convention itself. I am pretty sure they will change the 'Ron Paul' rule, by removing the need to win a majority of delegates in 8 states, thus giving Kasich (and others) a chance.
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:24 AM
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I am just excited to see how people react when they steal the nomination from him. I am also excited to see who the nominee will be. I am guessing they will toss Paul Ryan or Mitt Romney in there, but we will see. I think he is a shill and this is all the strategy that they intended. They will either rip away the nomination from him and ensure Hillary wins, or he will get the nomination and then go full throttle on the nutty speech and throw away any chance of victory. If he ISN'T a shill, there is a good chance of him getting axes. I think they will most likely just take the nomination away from him. What an exciting election cycle. I am so glad people are getting pissed.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:37 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan.

Snowflakes will be melting everywhere as the silent majority shines brightly out of the abyss that was eight years of Obama.


Please explain how Obama is worse than the president before him that allowed the worst terrorist attack ever on American soil, the rise of Big Brother patriot act, false Iraq war and subsequent quagmire, and a near economic collapse on his exit? Bush was the worst, most hated president in history, and now they want Trump. Bring torture back they say! So dumb.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



Can't blame me for that - you have spent the last few posts telling all Trump voters they are low information and then can't even be bothered to have the right information to hand before offering voting counts.


I don't blame you. Gotta capitalize when you can. And yes, I do believe many are misinformed on the issues. I did not say low information. There is a difference.

Also, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. That is something I wish more people were willing to do.



It's quite clear that Hillary is the favourite in a match up to Trump


Tell that to the rest of the Trump-bots. They would disagree.


Fair enough.

I do think that many Trump supporters would accept Hillary is favorite in a match up right now. It's not a big focus for the ones I talk to though because the GOP Nomination is still very much in the mind. It's a bit pointless worrying about Trump vs Hilary when it may never happen and it's far far closer in real terms - forget delegates and votes - in the GOP race than is being reported in the media. Right now i'd say its 40/60 against Trump getting the nod at the convention.


And this is exactly why I say wait till the November polls. A lot can happen in the next six months......Legal - Hillary and her emails, Trump with his Trump University....favorable/unfavorable will swing back and forth a number of times. It will be interesting indeed.


I was thinking about this the other day and yes your right things will swing wildly before then. But it depends on one thing and that is if Trump goes after Hillary. I saw Hillarys plan to bait Trump into making sexist comments and good chance she can do it. Trump can't help himself mention his hair or insult him directly with his looks or manhood he goes full Trump and say things most people would never say.

As far as winning if Trump gets the nomination and runs against Hillary good chance he'd win she has so many skeletons buried that most cemeteries would be overflowing. However if sanders won he'd lose he doesn't have near the ammunition to take him down and I'd say more people would like sanders over Trump I know I do. Bit given the choice of him or Hilary that's much tougher and id say depending on what happens I'd be leaning towards Trump.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan.

Snowflakes will be melting everywhere as the silent majority shines brightly out of the abyss that was eight years of Obama.


Please explain how Obama is worse than the president before him that allowed the worst terrorist attack ever on American soil, the rise of Big Brother patriot act, false Iraq war and subsequent quagmire, and a near economic collapse on his exit? Bush was the worst, most hated president in history, and now they want Trump. Bring torture back they say! So dumb.


Think both were poor choices in retrospect Obama just continued Bush's policies and we'll created his own messes as well turning Libya into a terrorist haven. Created a major conflict in Syria by supporting thr wrong groups. And allowed Iraq to be so destabilised as to turn that over to isis. And even Egypt he help ouster a longtime US ally only to haND thr country over to the Muslim brotherhood who was in terrorist watch lists. Which was the bigger idiot is a tough call. But if I look at who bombed more countries Obama wins. You can never expect bombing to make things better unless you can also stabilize the area your bombing. Flying in dripping bombs with no assistance of any kind only destroys that country making the situation worse.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 11:20 AM
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Many will drop out. Few will go to trump. My son and his friends are Bernie supporters. They hate Trump. They laugh at him .



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UnBreakable

Many will drop out. Few will go to trump. My son and his friends are Bernie supporters. They hate Trump. They laugh at him .


Luckily there's more voters besides your son and his friends. My son is a Bernie supporter and says he will vote for Hilary when she's nominated and will never speak to me again if I vote for Trump. I said I won't speak to him as long as Hillary is president. So It's a wash.



Sanders supporters could vote for Trump: Expert



"Yes this campaign's been based on fear and prejudice to a degree, but (Trump) has gone in right on those trade issues, the issues that really worry a lot of working class Americans about the fact that they're working harder for less today. That resonates with the Bernie Sanders campaign as well."



"She's part of that American political establishment that people are extremely suspicious of," said Dyer, adding that the FBI investigation into Clinton and the private email server could be potentially "quite damaging" to her campaign because of trust issues.

www.cnbc.com...



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