The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

originally posted by: schmae
a reply to: tigertatzen

Playing back your memories like a movie sounds terrifying and blissful at the same time. Must be interesting.

Interesting is an understatement. I don't watch television because for some weird reason, commercials are really hard for me to make myself forget. I once spent an entire night at work with this obnoxious little voice popping up in the background asking me what I would do for a Klondike Bar, over and over and over until I thought I would lose my mind. Oh hell no. That was enough of that LOL.

In the case of the ME, however...I feel like it's my own worst enemy right now. If there is one thing that I rely on more than anything else to be accurate, it's my memory. The idea that someone might have tampered with it terrifies me.

a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

Now let's talk about you. Quid pro quo. Is New Zealand (or Sri Lanka) in a different place for you? Has it moved?

If so, how do you think that happened?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

Waking up with a different spouse of a different gender would be attributable to a serious memory lapse (ed. or brain trauma).

Stroke, perhaps? Did I hit my head or something while I was asleep?

Nope, you have no head trauma. CAT scan shows no anomalies. You also are cleared of any mental health issues. You're completely sane.

You go back home to Colin.
Are you thinking:
"Something's not right here"

Or are you thinking:
"Wow memory sure is a funny old thing isn't it"

Straight answer.
This is important

You are begging the question to get the answer you want.

And no I didn't want a specific answer.
I just knew the answer you didn't want to give...

Yes, quite plainly, you were trying to limit your questions to provoke an answer.

Did you get it? Good. What does it have to do with "The Mandela Effect"?

From the data gathered from the experiment we now rationally know at what point "faulty memory" can not explain a Mandela Effect.
The subject's (your) reaction to the hypothetical scenario he was placed in shows logical evidence that at some point the "faulty memory" hypothesis falls apart.

Thank you for participating Gryph

No, actually it shows nothing of the sort as the two scenarios are not even similar.

The "Mandela Effect" is a real-world cultural phenomenon with massive attribution. It exists.

Your "example" was contrived and has no basis whatever in any reality. It was imaginary.

My answers say nothing about "faulty memories" because there were none involved.

But by YOUR reasoning ALL Mandela Effects are imaginary.

I have stated, repeatedly, that the "Mandela Effect" is a real cultural phenomenon

Well you need to make up your mind if you think the Mandela Effects are real or imaginary then.
We can't have a breakthrough with such inconsistency of your fundamental stance on the matter.

LOL. I've stated very clearly what I believe above. Repeatedly. One thing I have NEVER said is that the "Mandela Effect" is imaginary. If I have, quote me.

You said it's all to do with memory, therefore, imagined.
And you also agreed that at some point memory can't explain it.
Then you say it's imaginary
Then you say it's real!
Not very rational or logical of you is it!

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Gryphon66
Yup, my own thread trying to deconstruct it's possibility went all over the place.. . but let's just say some fine, skeptical minds were left scratching their heads over that one... and there was/is hard to disprove evidence strewn about and it takes hundreds of hours to really connect it all...

but it is included along with this ME as those rare instances were there might be a "there there".. .meaning some of the most "probable" outlandish tales discussed on this site (etc).

I'm going to spend some time with it; thanks again.

I think the astr0 individual may have a Twitter account as well. At least, I've found one that may be related. Comes up on Google search very quickly, if you're interested.

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

Waking up with a different spouse of a different gender would be attributable to a serious memory lapse (ed. or brain trauma).

Stroke, perhaps? Did I hit my head or something while I was asleep?

Nope, you have no head trauma. CAT scan shows no anomalies. You also are cleared of any mental health issues. You're completely sane.

You go back home to Colin.
Are you thinking:
"Something's not right here"

Or are you thinking:
"Wow memory sure is a funny old thing isn't it"

Straight answer.
This is important

You are begging the question to get the answer you want.

And no I didn't want a specific answer.
I just knew the answer you didn't want to give...

Yes, quite plainly, you were trying to limit your questions to provoke an answer.

Did you get it? Good. What does it have to do with "The Mandela Effect"?

From the data gathered from the experiment we now rationally know at what point "faulty memory" can not explain a Mandela Effect.
The subject's (your) reaction to the hypothetical scenario he was placed in shows logical evidence that at some point the "faulty memory" hypothesis falls apart.

Thank you for participating Gryph

No, actually it shows nothing of the sort as the two scenarios are not even similar.

The "Mandela Effect" is a real-world cultural phenomenon with massive attribution. It exists.

Your "example" was contrived and has no basis whatever in any reality. It was imaginary.

My answers say nothing about "faulty memories" because there were none involved.

But by YOUR reasoning ALL Mandela Effects are imaginary.

I have stated, repeatedly, that the "Mandela Effect" is a real cultural phenomenon

Well you need to make up your mind if you think the Mandela Effects are real or imaginary then.
We can't have a breakthrough with such inconsistency of your fundamental stance on the matter.

LOL. I've stated very clearly what I believe above. Repeatedly. One thing I have NEVER said is that the "Mandela Effect" is imaginary. If I have, quote me.

You said it's all to do with memory, therefore, imagined.
And you also agreed that at some point memory can't explain it.
Then you say it's imaginary
Then you say it's real!
Not very rational or logical of you is it!

No, actually, I haven't said any of that.

Read back. Quote me.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

Waking up with a different spouse of a different gender would be attributable to a serious memory lapse (ed. or brain trauma).

Stroke, perhaps? Did I hit my head or something while I was asleep?

Nope, you have no head trauma. CAT scan shows no anomalies. You also are cleared of any mental health issues. You're completely sane.

You go back home to Colin.
Are you thinking:
"Something's not right here"

Or are you thinking:
"Wow memory sure is a funny old thing isn't it"

Straight answer.
This is important

You are begging the question to get the answer you want.

And no I didn't want a specific answer.
I just knew the answer you didn't want to give...

Yes, quite plainly, you were trying to limit your questions to provoke an answer.

Did you get it? Good. What does it have to do with "The Mandela Effect"?

From the data gathered from the experiment we now rationally know at what point "faulty memory" can not explain a Mandela Effect.
The subject's (your) reaction to the hypothetical scenario he was placed in shows logical evidence that at some point the "faulty memory" hypothesis falls apart.

Thank you for participating Gryph

No, actually it shows nothing of the sort as the two scenarios are not even similar.

The "Mandela Effect" is a real-world cultural phenomenon with massive attribution. It exists.

Your "example" was contrived and has no basis whatever in any reality. It was imaginary.

My answers say nothing about "faulty memories" because there were none involved.

But by YOUR reasoning ALL Mandela Effects are imaginary.

I have stated, repeatedly, that the "Mandela Effect" is a real cultural phenomenon

Well you need to make up your mind if you think the Mandela Effects are real or imaginary then.
We can't have a breakthrough with such inconsistency of your fundamental stance on the matter.

LOL. I've stated very clearly what I believe above. Repeatedly. One thing I have NEVER said is that the "Mandela Effect" is imaginary. If I have, quote me.

You said it's all to do with memory, therefore, imagined.
And you also agreed that at some point memory can't explain it.
Then you say it's imaginary
Then you say it's real!
Not very rational or logical of you is it!

No, actually, I haven't said any of that.

Read back. Quote me.

So is it real or imaginary?

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

originally posted by: schmae
a reply to: beansidhe

I have been asking everyone I know about Reba's name. I know many country fans. So far no one remembers anything but McEntire. For what that's worth.
ETA Honestly why is there not a really big event that is in question here? In the big picture a childrens' book title or a washed up country singer's name or a candy bar just don't seem like big events to me.
As for the folks who remember seeing Mandela's funeral, what age were you when you remember seeing this ? That may be the biggest factor here is the age of the person at the time of the ' wrong' memory .

there is three major ones, bible, human anatomy & geology

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

I don't see what that has to do with the topic.

Now that we've proved Mandela Effects aren't real what does it matter anyway?

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

I don't see what that has to do with the topic.

Now that we've proved Mandela Effects aren't real what does it matter anyway?

You understand there's people who've found over 500 effects already, I'm sticking with them.

originally posted by: AcerM

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

I don't see what that has to do with the topic.

Now that we've proved Mandela Effects aren't real what does it matter anyway?

You understand there's people who've found over 500 effects already, I'm sticking with them.

Yes but as Gryphon66 has proved ever single one of those 500 is imaginary.
But Gryphon66 also says it's real so I don't know what Gryphon66 is smoking

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: AcerM

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

I don't see what that has to do with the topic.

Now that we've proved Mandela Effects aren't real what does it matter anyway?

You understand there's people who've found over 500 effects already, I'm sticking with them.

Yes but as Gryphon66 has proved ever single one of those 500 is imaginary.
But Gryphon66 also says it's real so I don't know what Gryphon66 is smoking

I just watched Byron Preston channel videos, guy has been into this a while. I recommend to watch them all immediately if interested ME. www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: AcerM

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: AcerM

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

I don't see what that has to do with the topic.

Now that we've proved Mandela Effects aren't real what does it matter anyway?

You understand there's people who've found over 500 effects already, I'm sticking with them.

Yes but as Gryphon66 has proved ever single one of those 500 is imaginary.
But Gryphon66 also says it's real so I don't know what Gryphon66 is smoking

I just watched Byron Preston channel videos, guy has been into this a while. I recommend to watch them all immediately. www.youtube.com...

I have him subscribed already. Good stuff isn't it

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

Waking up with a different spouse of a different gender would be attributable to a serious memory lapse (ed. or brain trauma).

Stroke, perhaps? Did I hit my head or something while I was asleep?

Nope, you have no head trauma. CAT scan shows no anomalies. You also are cleared of any mental health issues. You're completely sane.

You go back home to Colin.
Are you thinking:
"Something's not right here"

Or are you thinking:
"Wow memory sure is a funny old thing isn't it"

Straight answer.
This is important

You are begging the question to get the answer you want.

And no I didn't want a specific answer.
I just knew the answer you didn't want to give...

Yes, quite plainly, you were trying to limit your questions to provoke an answer.

Did you get it? Good. What does it have to do with "The Mandela Effect"?

From the data gathered from the experiment we now rationally know at what point "faulty memory" can not explain a Mandela Effect.
The subject's (your) reaction to the hypothetical scenario he was placed in shows logical evidence that at some point the "faulty memory" hypothesis falls apart.

Thank you for participating Gryph

No, actually it shows nothing of the sort as the two scenarios are not even similar.

The "Mandela Effect" is a real-world cultural phenomenon with massive attribution. It exists.

Your "example" was contrived and has no basis whatever in any reality. It was imaginary.

My answers say nothing about "faulty memories" because there were none involved.

But by YOUR reasoning ALL Mandela Effects are imaginary.

I have stated, repeatedly, that the "Mandela Effect" is a real cultural phenomenon

Well you need to make up your mind if you think the Mandela Effects are real or imaginary then.
We can't have a breakthrough with such inconsistency of your fundamental stance on the matter.

LOL. I've stated very clearly what I believe above. Repeatedly. One thing I have NEVER said is that the "Mandela Effect" is imaginary. If I have, quote me.

You said it's all to do with memory, therefore, imagined.
And you also agreed that at some point memory can't explain it.
Then you say it's imaginary
Then you say it's real!
Not very rational or logical of you is it!

No, actually, I haven't said any of that.

Read back. Quote me.

"faulty memories don't explain the 'Mandela Effect'"

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ruiner1978

My waking up next to "Colin" is more likely than you've realized.

So are you saying being married to Colin is one of you real or fake memories?

Nothing on New Zealand or Sri Lanka from you then?

Pity.

I don't see what that has to do with the topic.

Now that we've proved Mandela Effects aren't real what does it matter anyway?

Mandela Effect - Map Changes

a reply to: Gryphon66


I'd be willing to bet unrelated... he dropped his mike and walked a couple years ago and there are many "copiers" out there... but sure, link it in a PM or something and I'll see, but so far if his persona was real, he's star trekin' now, heh

and back to the ME. another four folks on my end are doubting their sanity specifically due to the dilemna ...er dilemma.

That seems a better case than mis-remembered maps, being a geography buff who knows people generally suck at it... though the islands mentioned above Sweden earlier (Svalbards I think) was a "maybe."

a reply to: Phage

I've never seen these Bears. So which universe am I in?

a reply to: tigertatzen. Wow. Maybe you're sensitive to the programming. Which might sound bad but is actually good because you actually see it and are probably less susceptible.


Like, commercials are repeating in all of our minds all day. Most just don't quite notice.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

The same I am, I suppose.
I'm too old and I guess my daughter is too young.