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The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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The only reason I used that term is my friend who I see for massages mentioned it and I had another friend that relates as an Empath stated the same. I can't see auras I just know that my behavior,thought process,demeanor...etc changed. They said it was a glow around me as well, but that could just be because my openness to love and kindness has grown

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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha



Well yes, perhaps I have selective acceptance but you probably have it too, we just think the opposite on this. My point on the US is the language and pronunciation, that's what I have been saying all the time (for some things, like the bears and Interview with the vampire and Sex and the city, for example). But I'm also curious as to why it happens mostly to Americans, regarding Mandela and geography, for example. I'm always looking out for the Mandela effect in Spanish and Italian, but so far nothing.



I'm sure we all have selective acceptance on certain things, and not every ME example that has been put forth is genuine. Some of them are surely due to memory failure. But there are those that have far too many people who are far too emphatically sure about something that has changed to dismiss the whole phenomenon. I am thoroughly and fully one million percent certain that Gandhi's (whoever that is) name was spelled Ghandi until very recently, and perhaps still is in whatever version of reality that was. And now there's no trace of that name ever existing in mainstream references.

This phenomenon has shown itself to be extremely upsetting to many who are experiencing it.

This is still in its very early stages, so who knows if, when, and how it may start to get detected by other cultures.
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: TombEscaper

Nope. It's always been Gandhi.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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If you’ve come to speeak about merging of universes, alternate timelines, and time travel then you are in the wrong place. It is of my opinion that the Mandela Effect is a real thing; however, steeped in the realm of sociology and psychology and not science fiction. The effect is somewhat different from a false memory as it effects large groups of people, seemingly without many connections and without the same emotional factors present. It also seems stronger and harder to escape the feeling that it’s simply a mis-remembering of a detail, which is why people are so adamant with claims of their memories. As such, it’s often been hinted at that the Mandela Effect is closely related to cognitive dissonance.
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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Just putting this out here even tho I think "reality" really has weird glitches..like things flipping over by an unseen force.. Types of Deja Vu
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
would it be so onnerous to simply admit that you are faliable ?


Everyone is fallible. Most incorrect memories are just hazy or incorrect memories. BUT, Mandela effect is happening. Something is happening. Reality isn't as solid as we thought, or it's becoming less solid, whether that means alterations or sliding between parallel worlds or what I don't know.

For an explanation, I lean toward parallel worlds have become thinner between the seams, so that it is both easier for people to slide and for bits of "data" to spill over from one world to another. A fictional example of sorts is in Fringe, where the parallel worlds start breaking down because there is a bridge between them. The break down happened in a more sci fi tv kind of way, but I think you all get what I'm saying. Was that tv show one of those where they tell the public real information in a fictional story? I don't think that would be the first time.

Here's another idea. I don't subscribe to this one, but since we really have no clue what is causing this, I might as well throw it out there. Picture space-time like the ocean, and our reality is like an ocean current. Somewhere not too far off in the future, there is a catastrophe involving CERN or another fabric of reality smashing / bending machine that creates a black hole(s). Black holes distort data. And this massive cataclysm is rippling backward in time, causing events to change as the waves of the event travel out in all directions (including backward in time). This future cataclysm suspends the laws that direct causality as well. If this happened to be the case (as poorly explained as I've done here), we would get increasing timeline alterations as we approached D day, and when we got close, the world would start to experience small rips in causality and not just data changes.

Thankfully I don't believe that haha. That would be the ultimate doom porn scenario.

I'd like to step back for a moment to my childhood. When I was a kid, I played in a forest, and I would swear the trees sometimes changed places when I wasn't looking. And I also experienced an event involved a gift I received that later I was told I stole, that can be none other than Mandela Effect. Fast forward to when I was about 21 (ah youth, so long ago). At the time I was very into transcendental meditation, and one day I had a vision of sorts (which I have long since though of as nonsense that the mind produces when doing these things), but I had a kind of vision of different realities colliding and reality becoming less solid. This culminated in certain people eventually being able to bend realities with their mind, and some people going crazy. I'm a pretty grounded if creative guy these days and if it weren't for the Mandela weirdness, I'd continue to think of this as nothing at all, the gibberish of an overzealous experimenting youth. I am now a very pragmatic individual -- but I've been experiencing the Mandela Effect in so many cases now. It's getting downright weird. It's not bad memory (which I have for some things, and I don't pretend they are Mandela Effect at all).

So, what do we make of this? I'm really not sure but something is happening.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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this is a fascinating topic- i guess it is just faulty memory and no sinister changing of reality by the overlords.
i somehow do not trust my own memory much and trusting others is even more difficult.
since this is all about popular topics it doesnt surprise me that people have the same path´s of thinking.
some erroneous thought paths are shared by several people- thats probably all. but i´m still fascinated by it and like always i´ll try to leave the door open for all kind of explanations. some people are so adamant- maybe there is more to it.


when Cappy85 above wrote "my aura changed" i thought " probably a massagist told that to cappy" and voilá in the next post it is confirmed.
just deduction and logical thinking. still odd that Cappy85 spelled it out ...

but i guess it illustrates how we often follow the same thought paths on topics...
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: kita0dtita
If the Mandela Effect is real, why do we only get instances of close similarity? Where are all the people experiencing the Mandela Effects from vastly different parallel worlds?

This is the crux for me. If there are parallel worlds, there are more parallels that are vastly different than there are very similar, yet, we only ever get 'Mandela Effects' from similar instances.

Gandhi -> Ghandi....Typical example.

Where is the Gandhi -> Who? (After explanation of who Gandhi was) Oh...you mean Divya!



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: peck420
a reply to: kita0dtita
If the Mandela Effect is real, why do we only get instances of close similarity? Where are all the people experiencing the Mandela Effects from vastly different parallel worlds?




Why are you asking us questions we obviously can't answer? We are all admitting that we don't understand this, even though we are experiencing it.

Someone has suggested that this seems to only happen to English speaking countries, mostly North America.
I used some different search engines (for different countries) and searched "Berentein Bears" and "Mandela Effect".

I did this for England, Australia, Italy and Portugal. England had links for online discussions, basically the same ones we get when we use google. (the results also showed both spellings for Berenstein and didn't try to auto-correct anything) The other 3 countries had "no results found" for either search.

I don't accept the 'timeline' theory. I've tried, but it's not...logical enough for me.
My current theory is more along the lines of "implanted false memory" (which is real)...psy-ops/mind control via internet/television/radio...subliminal...basically something mental as opposed to physical.

If a bunch of us all remember "Berenstein", but our old books show "Berenstain"..then we would be the ones with the false memory implanted, and you all would think we were wrong, crazy, stupid, stubborn, poor readers, faulty memory...right?

jacy



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: jacygirl
That sounds a lot like trying to come up with any reason other than fault with the person remembering.

I found a much simpler method. I just admit that my memory is flawed and re-learn the correct information.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: peck420
a reply to: kita0dtita
If the Mandela Effect is real, why do we only get instances of close similarity? Where are all the people experiencing the Mandela Effects from vastly different parallel worlds?

This is the crux for me. If there are parallel worlds, there are more parallels that are vastly different than there are very similar, yet, we only ever get 'Mandela Effects' from similar instances.

Gandhi -> Ghandi....Typical example.
Where is the Gandhi -> Who? (After explanation of who Gandhi was) Oh...you mean Divya!


Good explaining for all fact searchers, not blievers.
www.skeptic.com...



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: jacygirl

At the end of the day I am willing to die for my memories.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: peck420
a reply to: jacygirl
That sounds a lot like trying to come up with any reason other than fault with the person remembering.

I found a much simpler method. I just admit that my memory is flawed and re-learn the correct information.




*sigh*

jacy



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: DaVillen
So I went on and did a Depend search in Wikipedia and I found that someone edited the Wikipedia page in February

"18:02, 4 February 2016‎ Ppudate (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (6,550 bytes) (-3)‎ . . (the brand is Depend, not Depends. removed incorrect pluralization) (undo)"

How can it be that from the visible revisions no one has ever corrected the Brand Name from Depends to Depend?


Thanks for sharing. We keep finding evidence like this, that reality is sorting itself out after it shifts. Sometimes it's just people 'correcting' what are now mistakes.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: Justyness

Yikes! A scary thought but logically it is a possibility as well!



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: GoShredAK

Precisely yellowish white, yes. It always looked that way. Now, when you look at it, it's just white, unless it happens to glare through clouds in a particular way.

Search under Google Image for "sun in the sky" and all the pics depict a white sun...



If you search "sun colour" it will show it the way I remember...




My thought is that this is the result of geo-engineering. Spraying a bunch of Aluminum Oxide in the air. It refracts the light changing the color. Basically chemtrails designed to reflect a percentage of sunlight. I'm not saying for sure, but that's my theory.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

We are still trying to figure things out, in case you haven't noticed.



posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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I have read more than one of these effects backwards and now I'm too confused to post.
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: jacygirl

That very well could be the case with the implanted false memories. I'm not sure what I think about that, other than I know they can do that in a one on one type scenario. This seems like a theory that would be easier to disprove if it is wrong, more testable. People in other countries should be experiencing Mandela effect as well if it is one of the reality warping theories, but probably wouldn't be if it was being tested as a psy op here.

Of course, it may just be that they haven't had the breakthrough realization online like we have yet. America has a longer and fuller history of the internet. Maybe in some countries they won't have a collective awakening of it for another 3 or 4 years, basically just lagging because of the tech lag. They wouldn't exactly be finding American Mandela Effect sites in Indonesia any more than I find Indonesian sites.
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posted on Apr, 29 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable
a reply to: jacygirl

Yep. I've been watching him for years, and that is why I asked you to elaborate after I saw you reference Andrew Zimmerman. That's how I always remembered him until recently with the name Zimmern. The change bothered me on a level where I remarked to my wife "I always remembered him as Zimmerman, not Zimmern". She just attributed it to faulty recall on my part, and I reluctantly agreed. A faulty memory on my part is less disturbing to me than the alternative.


You know what, you really just described something that really resonates with that last sentence there. That is, in my opinion, the leading reason why people behave in a dismissive or derisive...or even abusive manner on threads like this. Everyone has their own comfort zone and when we perceive something as a threat to that, our very first line of defense is often denial.

If a child wakes his parents in the middle of the night because he saw a monster in the closet, the parents typically react to his fear with the immediate compulsion to reassure him that it isn't real. Some will walk the child back to the bedroom and show him proof of this.

But what if it IS real? Just because the parent can't see it does not mean that it's not real. The child does not just magically doubt the veracity of what he saw with his own eyes...he knows what he saw, even if he acts differently to appease the parent. But the seed of denial has been planted.

By denying that he saw what he said he saw, the parent is telling him that he cannot trust his own eyes and reasoning. And if they also scold him for it, which many parents do, from that moment on, whenever he sees something that doesn't seem right, he will remember that. And to avoid angering his parents further, he will deny his own perception and instincts and eventually by doing so, he will convince himself that monsters do not exist and any thoughts that they do will be dismissed as nonsense. Conditioning.

But who exactly is that parent trying to reassure? I think that the vast majority of people on this planet have been conditioned from early childhood in exactly this manner to deny the existence of (in this example) monsters. I also think that this safety net extends to anything else that cannot be tidily swept into a neat little ordinary box.

But if that same parent had a similar experience with their own parents, some part of their psyche retains that and despite a lifetime of conditioning, awakens that old fear on a subconscious level upon hearing their own child echoing it. That reinforces their own urge to deny the existence of the trigger for that fear. They're trying to convince not only their child, but themselves too. It literally, as you described, becomes less disturbing to just dismiss it as something mundane.

This is no different. In fact I think it is scarier because as adults, we're capable of seeing so many more implications and possibilities than a child can. And we also have a wealth of knowledge by which to extrapolate far more disturbing theories, based on things that we know actually ARE real, and more terrifying than any monster could ever be.

I think some of the things being questioned on this thread actually do have a simple explanation. But most of them do not. I think that a lot of us initially DID try to dismiss these discrepancies, like you described. I know I did. I also know I did it for the same reason you did.

I think in light of the many posters who chimed in with identical accounts of their own perceptions and experiences, not to mention all the other billions of people out there besides just this group, it seems ludicrous that anyone would actually suggest that this is somehow a grand coincidence or that we all suffer from some collective memory loss that somehow all of these people who don't even know each other just happened to fall victim to, thousands of miles from each other and completely unrelated.

That's because it IS ludicrous. It is completely opposite the rationality they are trying to project. Yet they stubbornly insist that it's true...even going so far as being openly mocking toward others in an attempt to belittle them and by proxy, silence them.

It's not that they don't see that there's something really wrong here; it's simply their denial of the idea that their cozy little comfort zone might actually be nothing more than a facade, built entirely of the lies that have governed their entire world view.

Something is definitely going on here. I think we're going to start seeing more and more people start to speak out about this as they realize that they are not going mad, that other people are seeing (or not seeing anymore) the same thing that they are.

What concerns me about that is...if this is being done deliberately, which I suspect it is, "they" are apparently getting sloppy. The only reasonable explanation for that is they no longer care if people notice. If that is true, it is because they know we no longer pose a threat to whatever their goal is. Because they have assumed total control.

That is the most disturbing possibility to me right now. I would much rather believe that some random inter-dimensional anomaly is responsible for all of this than some unknown group of humans controlling the rest of us like Sims. I'm trying to deny the growing feeling that this is not random, but it's getting really difficult to keep telling myself otherwise.



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