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Trump outlines "America-first" foreign policy plans , Be Afraid , Be very Afraid !

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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

The U.S. Navy operates 19 ships that could be called aircraft carriers, but only considers 10 to be actual carriers. In 2014 the U.S. Navy accepted USS America, first of the America-class amphibious assault ships, into service.


thediplomat.com...

If you don't count the other 9 as carriers then forget about the one from China because it shouldn't be counted.

We already have the strongest military in the world we do not need to grow it.
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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

I'm opposed to spending billions on military contractors and private security firms, but would advocate instead for that money to go directly to our actual military. I also can't disagree with you on the muddling around in the Middle East... although my solution there is to simply start claiming spoils from those wars instead of buying the war and then footing the reconstruction bills. That's eating your own tail and needs to stop.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Grimpachi

I'm opposed to spending billions on military contractors and private security firms, but would advocate instead for that money to go directly to our actual military. I also can't disagree with you on the muddling around in the Middle East... although my solution there is to simply start claiming spoils from those wars instead of buying the war and then footing the reconstruction bills. That's eating your own tail and needs to stop.


Not to mention the "Rules of Engagement". Why doesn't the Pentagon just put chastity devices on our military?

Example: Iran capturing 10 of our soldiers *Navy* and then John Kerry giving Iran praise for their restraint? GTFOOH!!!!
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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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" We already have the strongest military in the world we do not need to grow it."

Seems our Enemies , and our Alleged Allies do not think that is the case Anymore Since our Country is going Broke . Under Obama's Administration , the Military Budget has been cut Several times in the last 7 years . Old Military Hardware has to be replaced from time to time at a Substantial Cost , and Exactly How Old are Most of those Ships the Navy Claims are Combat Ready ?



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi You know china is the major recipient of the Iraqi oil right? You do know the US now produces most of its own oil, its why gas is at $1.70 a gallon here.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
Example: Iran capturing 10 of our soldiers *Navy* and then John Kerry giving Iran praise for their restraint? GTFOOH!!!!


Consider the source. Kerry not only was a traitor following his stint in Viet Nam, he lone-wolf negotiated with an enemy of the state during the Nicaragua crisis, meeting with Ortega to broker an appeasement. He's committed treason multiple times in his career and I'm not surprised he continues to grab any chance to commit it again.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi They are amphibious assault ships, capable of deploying marine air support and units to the battle field using LCACS, Ospreys, AH-1s, and the VSTOl F-35 variant. A carriers sole purpose is providing an air force readily available around the globe. Their missions and purposes are completely different.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
We already have the strongest military in the world we do not need to grow it.


Yes, let's all rest our asses on a laurels... everybody knows countries that get complacent are never passed by countries playing catch-up, (except for all the times exactly that has happened throughout recorded history, but we'll ignore those outside the narrative inconvenient facts and stick to our own narrative-approved reality, won't we?)



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Grimpachi

I'm opposed to spending billions on military contractors and private security firms, but would advocate instead for that money to go directly to our actual military. I also can't disagree with you on the muddling around in the Middle East... although my solution there is to simply start claiming spoils from those wars instead of buying the war and then footing the reconstruction bills. That's eating your own tail and needs to stop.


The US does not claim spoils of war like oil. If it did there would need to be a socialist program put into place. The US is not an oil company so any war fought for resources is actually a war fought for corporations.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: AVtech34
a reply to: Grimpachi You know china is the major recipient of the Iraqi oil right? You do know the US now produces most of its own oil, its why gas is at $1.70 a gallon here.



No, our oil prices went down because Saudi flooded the market with cheap fuel and just a few months ago US corporations tried to pressure them to reduce production to drive up oil prices so they could compete.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
The US does not claim spoils of war like oil. If it did there would need to be a socialist program put into place. The US is not an oil company so any war fought for resources is actually a war fought for corporations.


Laws and policies are easily changed. In past generations we claimed spoils and it worked quite well. (oh, and the existence of the national strategic petroleum reserves negate you entire "not an oil company/socialism" point)



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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If you don't learn from history...... I wonder if this was what it was like for Gorbachev when he realized that there was no more money to keep competing? If that day isn't here for the US yet it's VERY close.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Grimpachi


" We already have the strongest military in the world we do not need to grow it."

Seems our Enemies , and our Alleged Allies do not think that is the case Anymore Since our Country is going Broke . Under Obama's Administration , the Military Budget has been cut Several times in the last 7 years . Old Military Hardware has to be replaced from time to time at a Substantial Cost , and Exactly How Old are Most of those Ships the Navy Claims are Combat Ready ?


Those ships have been retrofitted and the newest carrier is 2 years old. Does that answer your question.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
No, our oil prices went down because Saudi flooded the market with cheap fuel and just a few months ago US corporations tried to pressure them to reduce production to drive up oil prices so they could compete.


...and prices needed to be driven up because we tried to punish Russia by driving down the prices following the Crimea referendum. Let's tell the whole story, shall we?



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
If you don't learn from history...... I wonder if this was what it was like for Gorbachev when he realized that there was no more money to keep competing? If that day isn't here for the US yet it's VERY close.


Gotta unpeg the world from the US Dollar before that even begins to be a reality, Trep. As long as the Dollar is the chosen world reserve currency, this country has all the money needed to not just compete, but dominate. (and it's a self replicating situation, truth be told... so long as we possess an 800 lb gorilla of a military AND have a leader with swagger and balls, no leader in the world would survive advocating depegging from the Dollar.)



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Grimpachi
The US does not claim spoils of war like oil. If it did there would need to be a socialist program put into place. The US is not an oil company so any war fought for resources is actually a war fought for corporations.


Laws and policies are easily changed. In past generations we claimed spoils and it worked quite well. (oh, and the existence of the national strategic petroleum reserves negate you entire "not an oil company/socialism" point)


The national strategic petroleum reserve 713.5 barrels of oil which is enough to keep the navy going a month or two. Times of emergency and they do not process oil.

Take some time and actually learn about the things you are going on about.

The past generations you are referring too were generations under empires. If you want the US to be an empire then I am afraid you do not know why this country was founded.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Ohanka
He makes a lot of sense at the start. Shame he goes on that Pro-Israel diatribe.


Yes, it's a shame that such a supposedly "racist" candidate isn't an antisemite.



How can you even explain that statement? If you're not pro Israel then you are an anti Semite? That's utterly pathetic.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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That swagger can be slammed really quickly. Every power has fallen. What makes the US any different? To quote the Book of Daniel, the writing is on the wall.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Grimpachi
No, our oil prices went down because Saudi flooded the market with cheap fuel and just a few months ago US corporations tried to pressure them to reduce production to drive up oil prices so they could compete.


...and prices needed to be driven up because we tried to punish Russia by driving down the prices following the Crimea referendum. Let's tell the whole story, shall we?


Different story from yours. The US corporations are trying to pressure Saudi because they are having a hard time competing it has nothing to do with Russia.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi um, our reserves are sitting at around 33 billion barrels of oil. Also our gas prices dropped to do fracking, oil sands and general crude production being up.



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