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Trump outlines "America-first" foreign policy plans , Be Afraid , Be very Afraid !

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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




I don't know what world you've been living in, but since WWII we haven't seen very many years of peace.


Quite the opposite. We are currently in what scholars call the "The Long Peace", where there has been an absence of war between the world's greatest powers for the longest time in human history. This started after world war 2.




posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: gortex
Being against intervention in order to force upon other nations the Western way of life is scary? Wow. Of course a strong military is required. I don't agree with all that is said in the above speech. The history depicting America as the heroes(solely) and the NATO topic, but then my thoughts on that topic go beyond this. Overall I don't agree with everything said, but come on. I'll finish watching later.


If you've bought into the Trump kool aid that the US military isn't "Strong", you're insane.

The USA spends more money on their military than, what, the next 8 or 9 countries combined.

And you don't think the US military is strong ?



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
He makes a lot of sense at the start. Shame he goes on that Pro-Israel diatribe.


He makes sense at the start. After "good morning", it goes off the rails.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: babybunnies

www.washingtonpost.com...


Read the Article , it will refute some of your Claims here about U.S. Military Spending .



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Grimpachi

Military Technology Evolves at a Frightening Pace , look at the Recent Russian and Chinese Military Buildup in the Middle East and Southeast Asia . The United States Military has to keep one step ahead of those two adversaries or it could conceivably be Compromised Militarily . A Realistic Defense Budget to meet those Threats has been sorely lacking since Obama has taken Office , especially when it comes to the Recent Downsizing of the United States Navy .


Here is the reality.

We have the strongest military in the world.

Our spending has decreased on the military because we are no longer occupying those foreign lands. Doing that is very costly. Our military technology is decades beyond Russia and China. Russias Navy is in mothballs and they have an 80 billion dollar military budget Chinas Navy mostly consists of corvet class which is good for home defense not invasion and their budget 146 billion our military budget is over half a trillion. Even if you put both Russia and Chinas military together it doesn't even compare to ours.

China doesn't even have an aircraft carrier unless you count the one, but by our standards it doesn't qualify.

A bigger Navy does not mean a stronger Navy if it did NK would be the strongest because they have the most ships, but we know more tin cans doesn't equal a threat, not when one of our ships can destroy hundreds of theirs in minutes.

There military is amassing in the ME. So what? Didn't we want them to combat and deter ISIS?



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Ohanka
He makes a lot of sense at the start. Shame he goes on that Pro-Israel diatribe.


Yes, it's a shame that such a supposedly "racist" candidate isn't an antisemite.



Ive starred your post but why use the obvious anti-Semite word that clearly does not and never has been an accurate descriptor of Israel.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:04 PM
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Mr. Trump's foreign policy speech was very disappointing. He is not a good speaker and mispronounced words throughout the speech. He was probably nervous. He is not a practiced speaker when doing anything other than "shooting the breeze", blow hard style.

He doesn't know anything about American foreign policy or why the United States has been doing what it has been doing for the last 16 years.

He is annunciating that the US has been betraying Israel under Obama. I think that is an exaggeration. In fact if we start supporting Israel again, in the manner to which she has become accustomed, the US will be mired in much the same morass in the Middle East that Obama has been trying to extricate it from.

Betraying Israel would be withdrawing financial support for the Israeli military. But Mr. Trump's speech is composed of play words that when carefully parsed reveal that he is completely at sea when it comes to foreign policy.

Mr. Trump is not a half wit. He is a successful businessman, and no more.

I think that Mr. Trump has identified areas of serious concern to Americans and to the welfare of the country and I would go so far as to say that his campaign platform, as outlined on his website, gives some indication of an international trade battle plan, but nothing is fleshed out.

My initial reaction to the speech was that it is largely incoherent, and at times self contradictory.

Apparently we can look forward to a renewal of the arms race under Mr. Trump as well as increased amity with Russia and China (!?!), if the US is victorious at the bargaining table.

Otherwise, it's back to the Cold War, apparently.

Trump says he is against globalism and the flight of American manufacturing jobs. He lauds the institution of the "nation state". All well and good, if true.

Has he repatriated the manufacture of Trump products from Mexico and China yet?

Does he know that the low price of oil reinforces the globalist trend?

Has he called up the folks at Walmart and told them they have to shut down their Chinese manufacturing plants?

When George W. Bush first campaigned for the Presidency, he said he would keep America out of foreign entanglements and futile exercises in nation building.

At his very first cabinet meeting he told his cabinet ministers to find a reason to invade Iraq.

When Trump says that American foreign policy has been a disaster, he must be joking. American foreign policy has been a resounding success for the American oligarchy.

He doesn't seem to know that all that money that was lost, was lost into the pockets of the American oligarchy. . .

Or is it that he knows that very well?
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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: gortex

Once again I find myself advising Americans to watch the movie Idiocracy.
What we're seeing in the US right now is the prequel to that movie, this is how it all happens.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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Lindsey Graham twitter



Lindsey GrahamVerified account ‏@LindseyGrahamSC 9h9 hours ago Not sure who is advising Trump on foreign policy but I can understand why he’s not revealing their names.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Krazysh0t




I don't know what world you've been living in, but since WWII we haven't seen very many years of peace.


Quite the opposite. We are currently in what scholars call the "The Long Peace", where there has been an absence of war between the world's greatest powers for the longest time in human history. This started after world war 2.


And that's thanks to what people refer to as the big bad NWO, a system whereby nations became economically reliant upon each other through the trading of resources to make conflict extremely difficult without massive consequences.

People seem to think the NWO often mentioned by world leaders was some secretive thing, some evil plan, it absolutely wasn't either, it was nothing more than a collective will to avoid another WW through making us all reliant on each other.

In the absence of an alien threat to pose a risk to collective Humanity, it was the right path to take and has led to the longest period of peace the Human race has ever seen.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:11 PM
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How Strong is the U.S. Missile Defense System since Obama became President ? Iran , North Korea , Russia , and China's Offensive Missile Programs have been Outpacing the U.S. in that Department for the last 6 Years . How Prepared is the United States when it comes to a Possible Nuclear Missile Attack ?



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Grimpachi

How Strong is the U.S. Missile Defense System since Obama became President ? Iran , North Korea , Russia , and China's Offensive Missile Programs have been Outpacing the U.S. in that Department for the last 6 Years . How Prepared is the United States when it comes to a Possible Nuclear Missile Attack ?


Care to provide any evidence for that?
It's easy to say things, but it would be good to see the proof for such claims.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Grimpachi

How Strong is the U.S. Missile Defense System since Obama became President ? Iran , North Korea , Russia , and China's Offensive Missile Programs have been Outpacing the U.S. in that Department for the last 6 Years . How Prepared is the United States when it comes to a Possible Nuclear Missile Attack ?
the most foolish statement in this thread.
that says a lot.

you dont know what you are talking about.

this admin has been systematically doing the exact opposite of what you said.
in fact this is probably the most secretive and experimental weve been in defense systems.

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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Trump could easily share those names with Lindsey If only Trump knew Graham's phone numb... oh, wait.


Apparently Lindsey is confused (again) and thinks anyone gives a rat's ass what he has to say.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

New Russian ICBM warheads were developed in response to America’s plans to deploy a global missile defense system along Russia's borders. We do not know if they live up to the claims, but for you to claim North Korea is outpacing the US in missile tech is the most ridiculous claim I have seen on here so far.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: SLAYER69

Sending troops in without the ability to protect their bodies, their brains against the bombs they get pelted with even on their own bases, where they cannot carry a gun! No real protective gear, and used as cannon fodder only to return home without the education promised, the homes they should be able to get on the GI bill but cant because they want to push them into psychotropic drugs for their ptsd, and keep them from owning guns to protect America, in America...

Trump has far to go, but he has heard the challenges that our Vets face and wants to make changes to help them.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: antar

Trump has far to go, but he has heard the challenges that our Vets face and wants to make changes to help them.



He's kind of using Vets, don't ya think? To get votes.

Is there anyone who doesn't want better treatment of vets?



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: aorAki
Then why do you use the Imperial system, huh, huh?
Of course it's 'empire building'.


Because the metric system is confusing as hell when all of your standard construction units of measurement are imperial, like dump truck yields, dimensional lumber, and much of our mapping not being to enough decimal places to capture the difference between US survey feet and international feet, causing errors that get worse the further from datum you get. The conversion to metric would be a real pain in the ass for the engineering, archetectural, and construction industry in the US.


And Mars landers.



We are back to pre WW2 levels militarily.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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As for the Military, we do need to outfit them in safer uniforms equipment and protective gear. That is going to take $$$, lots of money and well worth every penny. They deserve to be treated well upon their return from service. Housing, a living wage, to say the least.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: Annee

No not at all they are not the majority of voters, but I would rather have someone talk openly about our Vets than what the others are finding important which is far from what is important to the average person, American.



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