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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Freija
Sadly anything from Huffpo is leftist propaganda
Here's the worthy opponent to your huffpo www.thenewamerican.com...
So how fun is that.... They are deliberately teaching the kids to ignore their parents. That's always been the goal of Marxist secular humanist values clarification and this current trend is values clarification on steroids.
The ultra-leftist Southern Poverty Law Center, described by critics as a radical anti-Christian hate group, was recently implicated in a federal terrorism case after a deranged homosexual activist, citing SPLC hate propaganda, tried to massacre employees at a pro-family group's headquarters. Now, the self-styled “civil rights” outfit is stepping up its campaign to indoctrinate your children. The controversial Alabama-based group, widely ridiculed and criticized even by left-wing leaders for shady practices and deception, recently unveiled a new Common Core-aligned “educational” campaign. It is designed to inject even more pro-homosexual, pro-transgender propaganda into school classrooms across America, along with identity politics, collectivism, “white privilege,” “social justice,” and more. However, the “Teaching Tolerance” materials, which the SPLC claims are used by schools and educators reaching “millions of students,” are attracting scrutiny and outrage. Indeed, the propaganda would likely upset just about any parent, regardless of their political views. Under the guise of promoting what the intolerant SPLC calls “tolerance,” for example, students in kindergarten through second grade subjected to the SPLC “anti-bias” propaganda will learn, among other things, to ignore their parents and become cross-dressers if they feel like they were born in the wrong body. That lesson comes from the book 10,000 Dresses by Marcus Ewert, one of several SPLC-recommended texts for K-2 “teaching tolerance” lessons on “gender” highlighted by activists and media reports.
originally posted by: Freija
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Why do you even care about this anyway? What's it to you?
Oh gee, here's another Huff Po article if you liked that one. Ignore the title but please do read it. Several may apply?
How to Spot Anti-Trans Concern Trolls
originally posted by: redshoes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Technically, you are not treating gender dysphoria, or gender fluidity when you embark on a course of treatment.
What you are treating is the symptoms caused by that person's condition. The problem isn't that the child is gender non conforming, the problem is that he/she is depressed / suffering from anxiety and other symptoms that impact on their quality of life. The goal of any sort of treatment is to achieve a quality of life for that individual that is measurably improved.
As has been stated many times in this thread, that does not always mean hormone therapy or surgical intervention. (In fact this would typically be the last resort.)
originally posted by: Freija
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Why do you even care about this anyway? What's it to you?
Oh gee, here's another Huff Po article if you liked that one. Ignore the title but please do read it. Several may apply?
How to Spot Anti-Trans Concern Trolls
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
In that conversation, they were describing swapping a kids name and dress at 4(!) and begining hormones before puberty, 9 to 13.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
In that conversation, they were describing swapping a kids name and dress at 4(!) and begining hormones before puberty, 9 to 13.
Hormone BLOCKERS - - - not hormones
It delays puberty a few years til the teen is old enough to make his/her own decision.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: JoshuaCox
www.sciencecodex.com...
To study the bone health of adolescents with gender identity disorder who received puberty suppression treatment with GnRHa, the researchers followed up 127 such patients who later chose to receive "cross-sex hormones" to induce sexual characteristics of the opposite sex.
At the start of GnRHa treatment, all patients had normal bone mineral density, Delemarre-van de Waal reported. During GnRHa treatment, bone density gradually increased in the younger patients but slightly decreased in the older ones. However, after the teens received cross-sex hormones, bone density caught up, similar to the increase that occurs naturally in puberty, she said. All patients had normal or near-normal bone mass for their age after cross-sex hormone therapy.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Then you also have the fact that this has a really high misdiagnosis rate.
LINK?
Your opinions are only opinions. Back them up with fact.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: JoshuaCox
No. You need to re-read it. The hormone blockers were given first to prevent puberty BEFORE the age of 16. At the age of 16, hormones were given. This is standard procedure for all trans kids going through this.
To study the bone health of adolescents with gender identity disorder who received puberty suppression treatment with GnRHa, the researchers followed up 127 such patients who later chose to receive "cross-sex hormones" to induce sexual characteristics of the opposite sex.
At the start of GnRHa treatment, all patients had normal bone mineral density, Delemarre-van de Waal reported. During GnRHa treatment, bone density gradually increased in the younger patients but slightly decreased in the older ones. However, after the teens received cross-sex hormones, bone density caught up, similar to the increase that occurs naturally in puberty, she said. All patients had normal or near-normal bone mass for their age after cross-sex hormone therapy.
In case you don't understand - GnRHa treatment is the puberty blocker.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Then you also have the fact that this has a really high misdiagnosis rate.
LINK?
Your opinions are only opinions. Back them up with fact.
I posted a huffington post site scew pages back. It explains exactly how much we don't know. We spent a few pages debating the 20% success rate, (a prob flawed, but only study anyone has mentioned).
originally posted by: redshoes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
For the 'nth' time...
Its not legally permitted to prescribe drugs of any kind unless you're a qualified professional and can back your recommendation up with proven medical case history.
Trust me, getting hormone blockers prescribed is an extremely difficult thing to do and requires more than just your local family doctor whipping out a prescription form. It requires validation from an endocrinologist, psychologist, and the consent of the legal guardian if the patient is under the age of consent.
I'll agree with you to some degree, if these medical interventions were being handed out like candy, then no, obviously that's not a good thing and I would be against it. However, show me the case of where these steps were taken and a 'mistake' was made.
Its a fallacy and I would suggest the nightmare scenario you are continually describing has no basis in reality. Where as there are plenty of cases to support my points on how medical procedures and treatment policies are carried out legally and to the benefit of the patients concerned.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Annee
Ohhh I don't know... Anything in your head .....
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Really calling me a troll???