Polls Say Bernie Is More Electable Than Hillary. Don’t Believe Them.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Metallicus

Yes you got that right

Your GOP is the WORST GROUP IN THE EARTH

Worst even that Hillary

the record speaks for itself

It isn't MY GOP.

See that is the point. I am not a slave to partisan BS like you appear to be.

I don't care who is trying to take my rights away...they all suck.

Democrats want to limit gun rights...Republicans want to limit abortion rights...they are ALL wrong...people need freedom not more partisan BS. Stop being a tool for the political machine.

Its not about partisan, it's about who cut my friends food stamps

Who wants to destroy the little health insurance the poor does have now

Who wants to deprive LGBT of their right?

IT’S ABOUT ISSUES MAN!!!

That affect peoples lives not your dogma

a reply to: Willtell

How have the poor done in the last 8 years?

median household income was down 3 percent as of 2014, and the official poverty rate was 1.6 percentage points higher.

The rate of home ownership has dropped to the lowest point in nearly half a century.

The federal debt owed to the public has more than doubled — up 107 percent.

Consumer prices- up 12.3%


www.factcheck.org...

a reply to: Willtell

Maybe we are in a new era where a 74 year old Jewish socialist can get elected in America but I wouldn’t want to take the risk and elect a humanitarian catastrophe in Trump or Cruz

Guess what? The Republicans were saying the same crap when Obama got elected and nothing catastrophic happened. Everyone will survive Trump or Cruz or Hilary or Bernie as well. It isn't like we have any good choices.

a reply to: Willtell

So I have to give up my gun rights, my religious freedom, my life savings so your friend can have free food, free healthcare and gay wedding cakes? See it works both ways. We are screwed either way. I don't want to give up ANY of my rights...not for your Democrats or to the Republicans.

a reply to: Metallicus

Yep, can't say I disagree. There's a very very huge need for a 3rd party in that country or a proper independent candidate who can bring in enough donations to play hard ball during primary season.

Good news?

If Trump wins the nomination, the GOP might schism and then we'll have that 3rd party.

~Tenth

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I completely agree.

We need a party that stops trying to take rights away and one that starts giving them back. Right now we have a tug of war between special interest on both sides and no matter who wins 'we the people' lose.

a reply to: Metallicus

No...all that you still have as far as I know.

All some care about is some abstract notion of “freedom”

When human beings are dying and suffering because the US is still in the 19th and 20th century because of GOP policies.

Nobodies perfect, sure, democrats have problems, particularly in foreign policy, but thank your lucky stars you aren’t poor, black, minority and can afford to have the luxury of your “freedom” dogma.

How about freedom to have decent living

Freedom to be able to eat…have health care…school that don’t impoverish young people for life with debt etc…etc...Etc

The US is still far behind the civilized world and is dragging the others down with them

a reply to: avgguy

They did great under Bush didn't they?

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Metallicus

Yes you got that right

Your GOP is the WORST GROUP IN THE EARTH

Worst even that Hillary

the record speaks for itself

It isn't MY GOP.

See that is the point. I am not a slave to partisan BS like you appear to be.

I don't care who is trying to take my rights away...they all suck.

Democrats want to limit gun rights...Republicans want to limit abortion rights...they are ALL wrong...people need freedom not more partisan BS. Stop being a tool for the political machine.

Its not about partisan, it's about who cut my friends food stamps

Who wants to destroy the little health insurance the poor does have now

Who wants to deprive LGBT of their right?

IT’S ABOUT ISSUES MAN!!!

That affect peoples lives not your dogma

Wow, you sound just like these brainwashed people who do nothing more than spout the latest MSM talking points but when pressed for more information fold like a cheap suit.

Maybe less time watching MSM would be a good thing.

a reply to: Willtell

Nobodies perfect, sure, democrats have problems, particularly in foreign policy, but thank your lucky stars you aren’t poor, black, minority and can afford to have the luxury of your “freedom” dogma.

My 'freedom' dogma?!

Freedom is the only thing that matters to me when I vote. Who will do the least damage to my rights and things I care about. You are the one saying earlier that people should vote in their own self-interest.

I am TRYING to do that, but so far no one has stepped up to show me they understand the Constitution or the 2nd Amendment. You would vote to give up our freedom for security. I am not so short sighted.

a reply to: Willtell

How long ago was bush president again?

a reply to: Willtell

No, but under Bush 65% of new wealth created went to the rich, under Obama 95% of new wealth creation has gone to the rich. Obama basically handed trillions to Wall Street at the expense of the average American, while the jobs he created are minimum wage or have gone to foreign born workers. Certainly Bush is responsible for some of the horrible Obama numbers, but don't kid yourselves, Obama has done as much damage as he could get away with.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Willtell

How long ago was bush president again?

Eight years later the failures of the Bush Presidency are still being used to justify the failures of the Obama Presidency. Heck, Obama had two years of complete control of Congress and still failed.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Willtell

How long ago was bush president again?

Eight years later the failures of the Bush Presidency are still being used to justify the failures of the Obama Presidency. Heck, Obama had two years of complete control of Congress and still failed.

Ironically, if Obama had just stayed a senator until this election cycle, he probably would be a much better POTUS over the course of two terms than he was a junior Senator with no experience.

~Tenth

a reply to: tothetenthpower

That is a very interesting supposition.

It also might be true.

Supporting socialism is a sign of severe lack of education. With the incredible amount of free education available to free Americans, I am shocked that people actually support it publicly in this country. With that said, I will take almost anyone over Hillary. Bernie may be a confused person, but I do believe he thinks he wants what is best for the people of this country. Hillary has not done a good job of covering up her disgusting actions as Secretary, and there is no excuse to vote for such a person. Even for people who don't check the history of each candidate, her very recent flip flopping on issues and blatant lying should be more than enough of a deter ant.

a reply to: Metallicus

To a person that needed health insurance that may have saved their life…Obama wasn’t a failure


Of course the congress got voted out because the American people are too stupid to allow universal health insurance led by the GOP WHO SUCK THE BEHIND OF THE RICH AND POWERFUL

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
a reply to: Willtell

No, but under Bush 65% of new wealth created went to the rich, under Obama 95% of new wealth creation has gone to the rich. Obama basically handed trillions to Wall Street at the expense of the average American, while the jobs he created are minimum wage or have gone to foreign born workers. Certainly Bush is responsible for some of the horrible Obama numbers, but don't kid yourselves, Obama has done as much damage as he could get away with.

This thread btw wasn’t about Obama, but Obama, I agree wasn’t crap on a lot of issues but the GOP congress and their dogma for the rich and powerful and screw minorities and the poor wasn’t too helpful.

a reply to: Metallicus

How about freedom to eat, to have health care for children, freedom from all kinds of things that your friends in the GOP don't give a dam about, and freedom for a woman to control her body, and all kinds of freedoms your group don't care about such as freedom for gays to be what they are.


This thread btw wasn't about your "freedom"
but Hilary and Bernie

but that alright I'm always anxious to debunk ignorance

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Willtell

You have no qualms about having Hillary as POTUS? You're confident she has your interests at heart, even though she's quite obviously in with the Elites and Big Money Powers? Wow, she's good.

She's good, OR Will is very easily led by the nose...