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Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg

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posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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Pics or I dont belive.
um? would that be porn???




posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: buddha
Pics or I dont belive.
um? would that be porn???

Pics were already posted 4th page



posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Interesting.


I put this under Origins and Creationism because the flash reminds me of possibly the life spark or soul incarnating. Your thoughts ATS?


So does that mean it's possible that animals have souls too? After all you just said that scientists have witnessed this in animals other than humans before witnessing it in humans.

Though I think it's just a byproduct of a chemical reaction of the sperm and egg combining. Newton's third law and all.

ETA:

The bright flash occurs because when sperm enters and egg it triggers calcium to increase which releases zinc from the egg. As the zinc shoots out, it binds to small molecules which emit a fluorescence which can be picked up my camera microscopes.


Natural explanation in the article. It's just buried in the middle of it, so you have to actually read past the first few paragraphs to see it.


We agree on this one Krazy. its just a chemical reaction this time.



posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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My jacket makes a spark when I take it off, I guess I should get it a social security card and claim it as a dependent??

Seriously, this thread has deeply saddened me to see how the majority of people even in a place that's supposed to be enlightened are unquestioning numbskulls.

There is really no hope for the future of humanity.



posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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Any excuse to hide from the inevitable. If that works for you... but no thanks, I'll pass



posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 10:49 PM
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originally posted by: Raxoxane
a reply to: FamCore

And this one of the reasons why i see abortion as the foulest murder,THE most disgusting,despicable,beyond contempt act any human could possibly commit. There is enough birth control options available today-and i don't buy the excuse of it being a difficulty to obtain birth control. There is it seems, NEVER a problem to find time and money for trips to the mall,the hairdresser,the movies,pubs and clubs,sitting on your fat ass and ordering take-away foods and useless trinkets from mail order catalogues or infomercials.

Get birth control,you pathetic slags..don't start nothing an there won't BE nothing..and you will not be the most disgusting murderers that you are. I console myself with the fact that incarnation is a real thing-and karma is a Bitch.


I think I'm in love



posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 11:44 PM
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Zinc Sparks.


...involved in the modification of the zona pellucida, a glycoprotein matrix surrounding an egg. After fertilization, chemical changes in the zona pellucida form a barrier that prevents other sperm cells from entering the egg. The zinc vesicles may be involved in the chemical changes, the team says.
cen.acs.org... -Source-Zinc-Sparks.html

The egg cell is releasing zinc atoms. It also happens within minutes of fertilization, not at the moment of.
No magic, or souls, or spaghetti monsters. Zinc atoms.



posted on Apr, 26 2016 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: 0bserver1

That was an awesome video, I wish it had been longer though. Thanks for sharing.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 12:17 AM
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originally posted by: NotTooHappy
Zinc Sparks.


...involved in the modification of the zona pellucida, a glycoprotein matrix surrounding an egg. After fertilization, chemical changes in the zona pellucida form a barrier that prevents other sperm cells from entering the egg. The zinc vesicles may be involved in the chemical changes, the team says.
cen.acs.org... -Source-Zinc-Sparks.html

The egg cell is releasing zinc atoms. It also happens within minutes of fertilization, not at the moment of.
No magic, or souls, or spaghetti monsters. Zinc atoms.


So you're not inspired by it? Boring McBoreFace?


Edit... No, I can do better than that. So, it's Zinc? ZINC is glowing like that? Or is it photons of lights? You can try to call it Zinc atoms all you want but Zinc doesn't glow. The glow comes from LIGHT.

The idea that a flash of LIGHT occurs at the moment ofnconception, no matter the chemical reaction that produces it, is beautiful.
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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: NthOther
Deeper meaning is totally lost on these people.


Others just ignore history when it's convenient.

What is the origin of Christendom’s belief in an immaterial, immortal soul?

“The Christian concept of a spiritual soul created by God and infused into the body at conception to make man a living whole is the fruit of a long development in Christian philosophy. Only with Origen [died c. 254 C.E.] in the East and St. Augustine [died 430 C.E.] in the West was the soul established as a spiritual substance and a philosophical concept formed of its nature. . . . His [Augustine’s] doctrine . . . owed much (including some shortcomings) to Neoplatonism.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XIII, pp. 452, 454.

“The concept of immortality is a product of Greek thinking, whereas the hope of a resurrection belongs to Jewish thought. . . . Following Alexander’s conquests Judaism gradually absorbed Greek concepts.”—Dictionnaire Encyclopédique de la Bible (Valence, France; 1935), edited by Alexandre Westphal, Vol. 2, p. 557.

“Immortality of the soul is a Greek notion formed in ancient mystery cults and elaborated by the philosopher Plato.”—Presbyterian Life, May 1, 1970, p. 35.

“There is no dichotomy [division] of body and soul in the O[ld] T[estament]. The Israelite saw things concretely, in their totality, and thus he considered men as persons and not as composites. The term nepeš [neʹphesh], though translated by our word soul, never means soul as distinct from the body or the individual person. . . . The term [psy·kheʹ] is the N[ew] T[estament] word corresponding with nepeš. It can mean ..., life itself, or the living being.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XIII, pp. 449, 450.
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The difficulty lies in the fact that the meanings popularly attached to the English word “soul” stem primarily, not from the Hebrew or Christian Greek Scriptures, but from ancient Greek philosophy, actually pagan religious thought. Greek philosopher Plato, for example, quotes Socrates as saying: “The soul, . . . if it departs pure, dragging with it nothing of the body, . . . goes away into that which is like itself, into the invisible, divine, immortal, and wise, and when it arrives there it is happy, freed from error and folly and fear . . . and all the other human ills, and . . . lives in truth through all after time with the gods.”—Phaedo, 80, D, E; 81, A.

In direct contrast with the Greek teaching of the psy·kheʹ (soul) as being immaterial, intangible, invisible, and immortal, the Scriptures show that both psy·kheʹ and neʹphesh, as used with reference to earthly creatures, refer to that which is material, tangible, visible, and mortal.

One myth leads to another: comment and comment 2

'Plato-fans to the left of me,
Plato-fans to the right of me,
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with philosophy and the depth of human imagination,
Boldly I rode and well,
Into the jaws of Pagan Mythology,
Into the mouth of La La Land
I rode.'

Wished I managed the term "dark Abyss" in there somewhere. Or something with the word "darkness".


“The Hebrew term for ‘soul’ (nefesh, that which breathes) was used by Moses . . . , signifying an ‘animated being’ and applicable equally to nonhuman beings. . . . New Testament usage of psychē (‘soul’) was comparable to nefesh.”—The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1976), Macropædia, Vol. 15, p. 152.

“The belief that the soul continues its existence after the dissolution of the body is a matter of philosophical or theological speculation rather than of simple faith, and is accordingly nowhere expressly taught in Holy Scripture.”—The Jewish Encyclopedia (1910), Vol. VI, p. 564.

What does the Bible say that helps us to understand what the soul is?

Gen. 2:7: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” (Notice that this does not say that man was given a soul but that he became a soul, a living person.) (The part of the Hebrew word here rendered “soul” is neʹphesh. KJ, AS, and Dy agree with that rendering. RS, JB, NAB read “being.” NE says “creature.” Kx reads “person.”)

1 Cor. 15:45: “It is even so written: ‘The first man Adam became a living soul.’ The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” (So the Christian Greek Scriptures agree with the Hebrew Scriptures as to what the soul is.) (The Greek word here translated “soul” is the accusative case of psy·kheʹ. KJ, AS, Dy, JB, NAB, and Kx also read “soul.” RS, NE, and TEV say “being.”)

1 Pet. 3:20: “In Noah’s days . . . a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.” (The Greek word here translated “souls” is psy·khaiʹ, the plural form of psy·kheʹ. KJ, AS, Dy, and Kx also read “souls.” JB and TEV say “people”; RS, NE, and NAB use “persons.”)

Gen. 9:5: “Besides that, your blood of your souls [or, “lives”; Hebrew, from neʹphesh] shall I ask back.” (Here the soul is said to have blood.)

Josh. 11:11: “They went striking every soul [Hebrew, neʹphesh] that was in it with the edge of the sword.” (The soul is here shown to be something that can be touched by the sword, so these souls could not have been spirits.)

Is the soul the same as the spirit?

Eccl. 12:7: “Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the spirit [or, life-force; Hebrew, ruʹach] itself returns to the true God who gave it.” (Notice that the Hebrew word for spirit is ruʹach; but the word translated soul is neʹphesh. The text does not mean that at death the spirit travels all the way to the personal presence of God; rather, any prospect for the person to live again rests with God. In similar usage, we may say that, if required payments are not made by the buyer of a piece of property, the property “returns” to its owner.) (KJ, AS, RS, NE, and Dy all here render ruʹach as “spirit.” NAB reads “life breath.”)

Eccl. 3:19: “There is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit [Hebrew, ruʹach].” (Thus both mankind and beasts are shown to have the same ruʹach, or spirit. For comments on verses 20, 21, see page 383.)

Heb. 4:12: “The word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul [Greek, psy·khesʹ; “life,” NE] and spirit [Greek, pneuʹma·tos], and of joints and their marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Observe that the Greek word for “spirit” is not the same as the word for “soul.”)

Does conscious life continue for a person after the spirit leaves the body?

Ps. 146:4: “His spirit [Hebrew, from ruʹach] goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.” (NAB, Ro, Yg, and Dy [145:4] here render ruʹach as “spirit.” Some translations say “breath.”) (Also Psalm 104:29)

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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

It's due to zinc...Not magic, after all. But it is very, very cool.

The human body amazes me.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: NotTooHappy
Zinc Sparks.


...involved in the modification of the zona pellucida, a glycoprotein matrix surrounding an egg. After fertilization, chemical changes in the zona pellucida form a barrier that prevents other sperm cells from entering the egg. The zinc vesicles may be involved in the chemical changes, the team says.
cen.acs.org... -Source-Zinc-Sparks.html

The egg cell is releasing zinc atoms. It also happens within minutes of fertilization, not at the moment of.
No magic, or souls, or spaghetti monsters. Zinc atoms.


So you're not inspired by it? Boring McBoreFace?


Edit... No, I can do better than that. So, it's Zinc? ZINC is glowing like that? Or is it photons of lights? You can try to call it Zinc atoms all you want but Zinc doesn't glow. The glow comes from LIGHT.

The idea that a flash of LIGHT occurs at the moment ofnconception, no matter the chemical reaction that produces it, is beautiful.


While it is a very cool discovery of something the human body does at the moment of conception...it is caused from zinc.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 01:25 AM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

You might prefer all sorts of things, but what you prefer is absolutely irrelevant and always will be, because guess what? You only have the right to choose that for yourself. You can choose nine months over eighteen to twenty years, and that is fine, but the moment you start dictating to anyone else which way to go in the same scenario, is the point at which your position looses validity. You do not have permission to extend the police state to the contents and the function of a woman's reproductive organs, and you will never have the right to extend such.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 01:36 AM
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The Roman Catholic translation, The New American Bible, in its “Glossary of Biblical Theology Terms” (pp. 27, 28), says: “In the New Testament, to ‘save one’s soul’ (Mk 8:35) does not mean to save some ‘spiritual’ part of man, as opposed to his ‘body’ (in the Platonic sense) but the whole person with emphasis on the fact that the person is living, desiring, loving and willing, etc., in addition to being concrete and physical.”—Edition published by P. J. Kenedy & Sons, New York, 1970.

Neʹphesh evidently comes from a root meaning “breathe” and in a literal sense neʹphesh could be rendered as “a breather.” Koehler and Baumgartner’s Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros (Leiden, 1958, p. 627) defines it as: “the breathing substance, making man a[nd] animal living beings Gn 1, 20, the soul (strictly distinct from the greek notion of soul) the seat of which is the blood Gn 9, 4f Lv 17, 11 Dt 12, 23: (249 X) . . . soul = living being, individual, person.”

As for the Greek word psy·kheʹ, Greek-English lexicons give such definitions as “life,” and “the conscious self or personality as centre of emotions, desires, and affections,” “a living being,” and they show that even in non-Biblical Greek works the term was used “of animals.” Of course, such sources, treating as they do primarily of classical Greek writings, include all the meanings that the pagan Greek philosophers gave to the word, including that of “departed spirit,” “the immaterial and immortal soul,” “the spirit of the universe,” and “the immaterial principle of movement and life.” Evidently because some of the pagan philosophers taught that the soul emerged from the body at death, the term psy·kheʹ was also applied to the “butterfly or moth,” which creatures go through a metamorphosis, changing from caterpillar to winged creature.—Liddell and Scott’s Greek-English Lexicon, revised by H. Jones, 1968, pp. 2026, 2027; Donnegan’s New Greek and English Lexicon, 1836, p. 1404.

The ancient Greek writers applied psy·kheʹ in various ways and were not consistent, their personal and religious philosophies influencing their use of the term. Of Plato, to whose philosophy the common ideas about the English “soul” may be attributed (as is generally acknowledged), it is stated: “While he sometimes speaks of one of [the alleged] three parts of the soul, the ‘intelligible,’ as necessarily immortal, while the other two parts are mortal, he also speaks as if there were two souls in one body, one immortal and divine, the other mortal.”—The Evangelical Quarterly, London, 1931, Vol. III, p. 121, “Thoughts on the Tripartite Theory of Human Nature,” by A. McCaig.

In view of such inconsistency in non-Biblical writings, it is essential to let the Scriptures speak for themselves, showing what the inspired writers meant by their use of the term psy·kheʹ, as well as by neʹphesh. Neʹphesh occurs 754 times in the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Scriptures, while psy·kheʹ appears by itself 102 times in the Westcott and Hort text of the Christian Greek Scriptures, giving a total of 856 occurrences. (See NW appendix, p. 1573.) This frequency of occurrence makes possible a clear concept of the sense that these terms conveyed to the minds of the inspired Bible writers and the sense their writings should convey to our mind. An examination shows that, while the sense of these terms is broad, with different shades of meaning, among the Bible writers there was no inconsistency, confusion, or disharmony as to man’s nature, as existed among the Grecian philosophers of the so-called Classical Period.

Soul: Insight, Volume 2

Do not follow after the God of Confusion and Vagueness, the God of Darkness, the Father of the Lie/false story/myth (see at 2:39 in the video below):



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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 02:28 AM
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Thanks for that explanation. I keep an open mind on the idea of a soul because its funny how soul's came to exist alongside heaven and hell. If one didn't have something like a soul, only a rotting body the priests had no vehicle with which to frighten us with.

I am happy with the spark of life meaning just that.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: iTruthSeeker

And God said, "let there be light".



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:00 AM
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why does such a negative comment get so many stars speaks volumes of the people who star this bollocks reply, lets not make assumptions and have dreams and lets just stagnate and die off like f..king pandas. no scrap that i want to evolve you lot can stagnate, people that are to scared to share there beliefs or thoughts but would rather discredit anyone who does are scum IN MY OPINION................



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:34 AM
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People's desperate and speedy attempts to discredit anything "spiritual" is funny to watch. And bordering on an obsession.
Interesting post OP, whatever the cause. Spiritual or chemical.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:44 AM
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Whether Animal, Vegetable or sentient Human life....

It is a spark of life. Be it described by a chemical reaction or not.

In any case I think it's cool.

Some people only want either to abstain or a full pepper diet.


There's room for both in my world.







posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 04:57 AM
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8 in 10 Americans think angels are real.

www.cbsnews.com...

It doesn't surprise me at all that someone would think the CHEMICAL reaction of fertilization was also the 'spark of life" or the "living soul infusing itself into the newly created human".

This is what you get when you teach your children about religion. At that early age, they have no concept of what to believe because Santa Claus and the Easter bunny are as real as God at that point in their life. Indoctrination of the young into a cult following of a GOD created through the ages to fit the needs of the human race who need to have a 'God'.

Dogma...all of it.

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