Attended Trump Rally today!

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: introvert
Hypocrites.

Not really... I see nothing in a Donald Trump presidency that's going to cost me more of my money or freedoms. The same has never been said about Obama.

Who's going to pay for the wall? Mexico?

Nope...you and I will pay for it. If it gets built at all, that is.

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: introvert

Yeah, remember all that negative press Obama got while he was running for president?

Me neither. The MSM was treating him like the second coming of Christ.

Bull#. I was around to see how the press covered Obama's candidacy. Most were reasonable, some were friendly or pro-Obama and the rest were anti-Obama, claiming he was the anti-Christ.

As Indigo stated, your post is out of touch with reality.

a reply to: introvert

Really?

Obama had the backing of Hollywood. He had the backing of Wallstreet. He had the backing of every liberal media outlet. He had the backing of lobbyist groups, special interests and almost every advocacy group in the country... not to mention he was put on a pedestal by his own party.

Do you deny this?

Yeah, he had a real hard time. /sarcasm

originally posted by: HolgerTheDane2

originally posted by: UnBreakable

And will Hillhag be any different?

Can I ask you a question?

Why is it that you guys think that rewriting a name in a hilarious (!!!???) way gives any weight to your arguments?

To be honest, I think it makes you look un-intelligent.

I don't think anything about her is hilarious, except when she barks like a dog. That's just my pet name for her because she barks like a pet. Sorry, that's the nicest name I can come up with.

a reply to: Konduit

Obama had the backing of Hollywood.

Not everyone in Hollywood is a liberal. That is a myth pushed by Right Wing propaganda.

He had the backing of Wallstreet.

True. So did the Republican candidate.

He had the backing of every liberal media outlet and almost every advocacy group in the country

Not all of the media outlets are liberal. Can you name which major media outlets endorsed Obama? Also, not every advocacy group out there is liberal. Those that push for Right Wing agendas would have endorsed the Republican candidate, correct?

not to mention he was put on a pedestal by his own party.

Both parties do that. It's what happens when you become the party's nominee.

Do you deny this?

No, but I think your forgetting to apply the same logic to the other side of the spectrum. Obama received just as much negative press as he did positive, so I find your statement to be unfounded and biased. I know the narrative that has been pushed by the Right Wing propagandists and it appears that you are simply parroting it without independence thought or reason.

a reply to: introvert

Yeah, see, there's this new thing called budgeting. You may have heard of it. It involves prioritizing your expenditures to keep them below your income level. Using budgeting, Washington DC could (theoretically) cut outlays to programs that aren't cost effective to the tax payers and shift that money to programs that are more desirable or advantageous to the country. This nation spends $1.4 Billion a year on the border patrol and another $55 Billion per year on Homeland Security. Furthermore, it spends $113 Billion per year on illegal immigration costs (Source )

Seems to me like rebudgeting the expense of the wall out of the savings the wall will mean to those other expenses is pretty much a slam dunk for paying for the wall without turning to the tax payer for more.

too bad you went during phase 2, phase 1 was a lot more fun

a reply to: introvert

Not everyone in Hollywood is a liberal. That is a myth pushed by Right Wing propaganda.

Be honest, nobody gets coverage in Hollywood unless they are a liberal mouthpiece.

True. So did the Republican candidate.

I can think of one Republican candidate that doesn't have wall street on their side.

Not all of the media outlets are liberal. Can you name which major media outlets endorsed Obama? Also, not every advocacy group out there is liberal. Those that push for Right Wing agendas would have endorsed the Republican candidate, correct?

Liberal media outlets include NBC, ABC, CNN, TYT, NY times, NY post... all of them grovelling at the feet of their savior to this day.

Both parties do that. It's what happens when you become the party's nominee.

That's funny, since the GOP seems to be doing the exact opposite to the clear front runner.

No, but I think your forgetting to apply the same logic to the other side of the spectrum. Obama received just as much negative press as he did positive, so I find your statement to be unfounded and biased. I know the narrative that has been pushed by the Right Wing propagandists and it appears that you are simply parroting it without independence thought or reason.

I can't remember the last politician before Obama to get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

But my original premise still stands.

We are going to pay for it and the chances of re-prioritizing the federal budget is slim to none.

While I agree with your sentiment, it's not based in reality at this point.

originally posted by: introvert
While I agree with your sentiment, it;s not based in reality at this point.

Fair enough, but let's examine what is undoubtedly based in reality circulating on the 4 alternatives...

Hillary Clinton: I didn't want the first term of Obama, certainly not his second... why in the hell would I want a third term of malaise and BS?
Sanders: My wallet cannot afford this man's socialist policies and intents.
Cruz: Here's a great idea... a two faced outside who's desperate to become an insider while his father speaks of God speaking to him in dreams, saying his son has been annointed the "Sword of the Lord" by God.
Kasich: Nothing like milquetoast, eh?

Trump is the most sensible and logical candidate to support at this point.

a reply to: Konduit

Be honest, nobody gets coverage in Hollywood unless they are a liberal mouthpiece.

Really? Why is Clint Eastwood so popular then? How about Adam Sandler? They are Republicans.

You are spitting propaganda.

I can think of one republican candidate that doesn't have wall street on their side.

Just one?

Liberal media outlets include NBC, ABC, CNN, TYT, NY times, NY post... all of them grovelling at the feet on their savior to this day.

Did all of them endorse Obama? Are they also the only news outlets out there? You'd have to have a much bigger list to justify your comments.

That's funny, since the GOP seems to be doing the exact opposite to the current front runner.

True. His supporters are the one putting him on a pedestal. How ironic, huh?

It's hypocritical to chastise the Left for holding Obama on a pedestal, while holding Trump on his own pedestal.

I can't remember the last politician before Obama to get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing.

That is also true. I can't remember the last time someone was considered a viable candidate for the office of the President just for being a jack ass.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I think the most logical choice is to not support any of them.

Trump does not provide any stance that I would find to be any more logical than the positions posited by any of the other candidates.

He is a feel-good candidate. He appeals to those that lack knowledge of policy and constitutional understanding, and vote based on how the candidate makes them feel.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: introvert

Yeah, see, there's this new thing called budgeting.

Holy crap...What the eff does Donald Trump know about budgeting???

His net worth consists of One Part: Money he stole from banks and investors...as he repeatedly declared bankruptcy for his investments and ran with the cash and Nine Parts: Declaring the name "TRUMP" as a brand and assigning it a value of 9 Billion Dollars.

The effen guy literally continued to piss in a toilet made of gold while telling the banks he owed almost a Billion Dollars to eff off...

He BRAGS about "using the bankruptcy laws to his advantage"...how do you think that sh*& would fly when the American taxpayer is his bank?

Amazing the degree to which people delude themselves about this mans business prowess...

He has not shown his tax returns for a reason...

No, his tax returns are in the open.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
No, his tax returns are in the open.

Honestly...what is wrong with Trump supporters that blindly claim night is day?

No...to the contrary, he is the only candidate that has not released his tax returns.

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Indigo5

The establishment thinks they can get away with gerrymandering and in-your-face crony politics against Trump simply because people like you give them a free pass since he isn't "your guy".

Sad to see Americans cheer as voting is being treated this way. This is the dirty politics people are getting tired of, which is exactly why Trump is winning.

"The Establishment"...you mean the GOP?...right?

The same organization that Trump Supporters cheered for and defended when they "gerrymandered" districts across the country to give them and advantage in the House? The same "Establishment" that eliminated early voting to suppress the vote of the working poor and instituted Voter ID laws to suppress the vote of minorities...whilst the same people that Support Trump defended the moves?

Suddenly NOW.....the GOP is engaging in "Gerrrymandering" and "Dirty Politics"?

Good for the Goose, Good for the Gander?

Trump and his supporters to the GOP Establishment...and..The GOP Establishment to Trump Supporters..

Are just hens coming home to roost....

Leave the rest of us out of it...

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yeah cause this "magic" wall will 100% work and you won’t ever have to pay for border patrols, Homeland security and other services cause trumps "magic" wall will be 100 effective!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So gullible. You’re as bad and naive as Obama supporters.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: introvert

Yeah, see, there's this new thing called budgeting.

Holy crap...What the eff does Donald Trump know about budgeting???

His net worth consists of One Part: Money he stole from banks and investors...as he repeatedly declared bankruptcy for his investments and ran with the cash and Nine Parts: Declaring the name "TRUMP" as a brand and assigning it a value of 9 Billion Dollars.

The effen guy literally continued to piss in a toilet made of gold while telling the banks he owed almost a Billion Dollars to eff off...

He BRAGS about "using the bankruptcy laws to his advantage"...how do you think that sh*& would fly when the American taxpayer is his bank?

Amazing the degree to which people delude themselves about this mans business prowess...

He has not shown his tax returns for a reason...

Back in June, when the city's bungled, six-year effort to renovate the Wollman Ice-Skating Rink in Central Park was $12 million over budget with no end in sight, real-estate tycoon Donald Trump stepped forward.

Just give the project to me, he said, and I'll finish the rink by Christmas. This Christmas. And for free.

He was two months ahead of schedule, and $750,000 under budget.

"This serves as an example of what New York, the wealthiest city in the world, can do in terms of saving money - if things are done right," an exuberant Trump said. "If we could just plan and execute, it would be billions and billions of dollars that would be saved."

11/01/86 News Article

It seems to me that Trump has a better ability to budget than our government officials. Don't you think? 

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: FlyingFox
No, his tax returns are in the open.

Honestly...what is wrong with Trump supporters that blindly claim night is day?

No...to the contrary, he is the only candidate that has not released his tax returns.

Well, he spoke about it, and claims he and his family are all in compliance.

I think they are all still busy working on Obama's birth certificate or George Washington's dental records.

All these are highly relevant.

originally posted by: CynConcepts

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Back in June, when the city's bungled, six-year effort to renovate the Wollman Ice-Skating Rink in Central Park was $12 million over budget with no end in sight, real-estate tycoon Donald Trump stepped forward.

Just give the project to me, he said, and I'll finish the rink by Christmas. This Christmas. And for free.

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It seems to me that Trump has a better ability to budget than our government officials. Don't you think? 

Nope

with the stipulation that he be allowed to run the venue and an adjacent restaurant and use the profits

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Wollman Rink is currently operated by the Trump organization, and is today known as the Trump Skating Rink

...

The Trump name is prominently displayed on the walls of the rink as well as on the Zamboni that maintains the rink. Operation of the Lasker Rink on the north edge of Central Park is also handled by the group.

Finishing the renovation of a public skating rink does not qualify someone for President..

And he sure as heck made money on the deal.

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: crazyewok
Political rallys are something I just dont get.


Why waste your weekend going to see some blowhard lier tell more lies?

Just vote for the dammed candidates and be done with it.

This is how 90% of the US ignorant electorate vote. Don't go see the candidates in person to see what they're all about. Just make your choice based on what the MSM portrays and spoonfeeds you. Your reasoning is why it will always be politics as usual forever in this country.

Because a highly shaped and stage managed speech will give you a true insight into a politician's character, policies and the implications of those policies.

Your last sentence is ironic..