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In a direct challenge to David Cameron’s claims of British sovereignty, Germany, France, Italy and Luxembourg signed a document last September in Rome calling for the creation of a “general union of states”, which has only now come to light.
Not content with merely monetary union and free movement, the declaration, signed by the speakers of the national parliaments in Germany, France, Italy and Luxembourg states that they want to integrate a broad spectrum of policies. “It should include all matters pertaining to the European ideal — social and cultural affairs as well as foreign, security and defence policy,” the declaration states.
It adds: “We are convinced that new impetus must be given to European integration. We believe that more, not less, Europe is needed to respond to the challenges we face.
“The current moment offers an opportunity to move forward with European political integration, which could lead to a federal union of States.”
The Commission has denied all knowledge of the declaration. A spokeswoman told the Sunday Times: “I am not aware of any such initiative. This is not something related to the commission.”
But leader of the Commons, Chris Grayling, who has been sent the document, said: “This shows there are now serious plans for a political union, where those countries in the Eurozone move towards having a single government.”
originally posted by: DOCHOLIDAZE1
a reply to: athousandlives
why cant we just be us? why do we need to be unified? why can we not have speprate identiteys? My people and chinese people are not the same, germans and mexicans are not the same, hawians and new zealanders are not the same japanese and canadians r not the same peruvians and greenlanders are not the same, irish and indians are not the same. why are we being forced into unions? why are we being forced into a new world order?
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: athousandlives
Thanks for your well thought out response.
The thing I am having a tough time with is looking at the economic disparities between diff. countries in the EU : World Debt Clocks
Also, if they plan to consolidate everything, including military operations, how would it work with so many languages? Some of these (actually all of them, at this point anyway) are hypotheticals
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Besides, English is probably the main language in Europe, although I'm sure the Germans may have a say on this in the future.
But from my understanding, if this 'United States Of Europe' (Thats probably not how its really going to be called) goes ahead it would mean relinquishing of own sovereignty and a creation of a single government, Controlling each countries resources and citizens.
Im guessing a single european army and maybe down the line a tagging of each european citizen.
originally posted by: athousandlives
Well as it stands The European Union is mostly a commercial and monetary agreement, that includes ease of travel between member states, and a single currency.