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originally posted by: Klassified
originally posted by: Rocker2013
It's called magic, its trickery, just because you haven't been able to work out how it's done does not mean it's "supernatural" or "demons".
ATS, we really, REALLY, need a facepalm emoji.
Yes we do. For those who have reading comprehension deficits.
On the other hand, I believe there are a few occultists (very few) who earn a living masquerading as stage magicians. That is a very different proposition.
originally posted by: crowdedskies
a reply to: Klassified
I do not agree with the view that stage magicians are using outside help (demons , Djins, emelentals , etc). To me, It is all sleight of hand,exploiting powers of suggestion, etc
Why put these illusionists on par with occultists ? They do not deserve being put on such a pedestal.
On the other hand, I believe there are a few occultists (very few) who earn a living masquerading as stage magicians. That is a very different proposition.
originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: QuinnP
Man... I seriously hope you are not suggesting that just because this guy that was on a reality TV game show says he cultivated his talents with the help of demons that it is actually true.
You may as well be saying:
I don't know, so.... Demons.
/endthread
originally posted by: QuinnP
He stated this very matter-of-factly over air for the entire world to hear. And eventually the judges had to tell him to stop saying that his spirit guide Desment was helping him. lol.
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: QuinnP
He stated this very matter-of-factly over air for the entire world to hear. And eventually the judges had to tell him to stop saying that his spirit guide Desment was helping him. lol.
This is what is known as patter. Like someone saying they discovered the trick by studying ancient Egyptian papyri or some crap.
It's showmanship. It's the bs frosting surrounding the trick that makes it entertainment instead of a documentary.
originally posted by: QuinnP
Can you state your source that he was lying. If you are just assuming this, your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: QuinnP
Can you state your source that he was lying. If you are just assuming this, your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.
YOU are the one making the assertion, bwana. It is up to you to disprove the null hypothesis. You must therefore prove that they ARE using demons, and since magician patter is an old and well known phenomenon, you cannot use what they say.
Get to instrumenting, sir!
Your epiphany lies here