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I survived the 2016 Super Bug, unfortunately, Prince didn't

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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

Coincidence, this thread. Every year I get a flu shot, usually in October (despite the opposite advice of most here on ATS) because of luck or a good constitution, I never get a cold, let alone the flu. Anywho, I felt a cold coming on last Tues., which is rare for me. I bought and used ZICAM to try to head it off before becoming full fledged. Within a couple of days, it was full bore - 103° fever, congestion, body aches, hallucinations, the whole works. I hadn't been this sick in like twelve years. I actually went to the dr. Friday. I was told I was too late in the game where Tamiflu would be beneficial and would just have to ride it out by drinking plenty of fluids and Tylenol every few hours. I did test positive for the flu from a nasal swab, the doc also said how late in the season it was, and the strain was obviously not in the shot. Long story short is I hadn't been that sick in years and whatever it was overrode my usual immunity. Hope I never get it again too soon.




posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: ketsuko

I saw news reports earlier that said he was treated for dehydration, which would have been a result of the flu. Not sure what to believe there. Can you link it.

I am seeing that he attended a concert two days prior to his death, so yeah, looks like he did recover from the Flu. My bad.


I just have a nagging suspicion that Prince's death wasn't directly caused by the flu. Whatever it was may have been exacerbated by the flu, but I think the autopsy will show a drug overdose or another underlying condition. Intentional or not we'll never know, but he made a comment a few days before his death as to waiting a few days to pray for him.

"Prince’s last words on stage: ‘Wait a few days before you waste your prayers on me"
metro.co.uk...



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

I feel for ya, been there, done that and it's one nasty strain. I hope you feel better real soon. If you start coughing real hard, get to the doctor right away as it may be turning into pneumonia.

Yea, it is strange how widespread this nasty bug is this late in the season.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
OP glad to see you are up and ticking away here. I had an aunt that died a few years back from complications with the flu that turned. She too had other health issues that may have contributed. But like yourself I am generally stubborn and tend to wait but after reading this I will be sure to take care of myself.

I just started taking a mega men vitamin so hopefully that will help aid in my healthiness. If anything I'm pissing gold now lol.


Glad to hear it. After my experience, I will not hesitate to get checked out when something don't feel right from here on out. I guess it's time to admit I'm getting older now and things may break down once in a while.

Sorry to hear about your aunt. It was also pneumonia that claimed my mother back in 2001, and she too had other complications, and once it advanced to pneumonia, she slipped into a coma and that was it. Pneumonia can be a killer.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Daughter2
A few years ago I almost died of the flu too. My white blood cell count was close to 30,000.

I'm not saying it wasn't drugs but the whole story about the plane landing for a save shot doesn't make sense.

Police and paramedics carry because it needs to be given right away - so I don't know if he could have survive the entire time it took to land the plane and then the transport to the ER.


I agree with you. Dehydration makes more sense. He had been battling the flu. It was only three hours after he performed a show, so you can bet he was feeling pretty lousy and from what I went through, there was a point when my wife finally said, "that's it, I'm taking you to the hospital." Prince's people probably decided the same thing.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: carewemust
Prince cancelled 2 shows earlier this month due to the Flu. Cancellations are extremely rare for him. The strain of Flu that Prince had must have been really deceiving. His doctors would have put him in the hospital if his Flu's severity was obvious, wouldn't they?

I get the feeling that Man (private or government) invented some of these strains and they got away from the lab, or something. Anyone else get this feeling?


Yes. I find it crazy how the vaccine is spot on this year and everyone getting this nasty strain didn't get the shot. I was asked many times by doctors if i will get the shot now. Seems like a scare-tactic, maybe. But, I also firmly believe that many of these bugs are getting stronger due to warming temperatures, but that's a whole other thread.


I know people who had the shot and got the flu. They did guess better at which way the bug was going to mutate this year though. Less of those who got the shot got real sick this year. Last year it was nearly worthless. The Flu was out and about around here quite a bit, but not too many people got it really bad requiring hospitalization from what I have heard.


I am now hearing there are cases of those who got sick even with the shot, but of course, my doctor tried to convince me that everyone here that was sick, didn't have the shot. Lucky for you Yoopers that your strain wasn't so nasty. Over here in northern WI I know of quite a few people who got really sick this year and in just the past couple of months.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper
Mneither. It's not on any mainstream news source so I doubt this is true.


Sure.


Prince received drug overdose treatment six days before his death during his plane’s emergency landing in rural Illinois, according to a report. New York Daily News



Prince was reportedly treated for a drug overdose six days before his death on Thursday, according to TMZ.

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According to the TMZ report, doctors gave Prince a “safe shot”... MSN .com



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Wildbob77
I'm glad that you're OK now but man, that sounds like one tough diet


I'm working on losing weight and it's taken me from the first of the year to lose 25 lbs. I've given myself the rest of the year to lose another 25.

PS I'm so glad I got my flu shot this year

Take care


Losing the 50 lbs was horrible, but now that it's gone, I'm determined not to get it back. The strict carb diet hasn't been easy, especially for a guy who loves to eat, but I have a huge motivator right now... not wanting to live with diabetes. I've been able to eat smaller portions of all my meals, totally cut out soda and any other sugary foods and opened up to eating more fruits and veggies (which were lacking in my previous daily menu). My wife has been in awe at my will-power, but I just needed the motivation and this sickness was it.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: fernalley
a reply to: Rezlooper

Do you know what strain you had? I also got quite sick in march and went to Acute Care. The attending Dr did a nasal swab and said it would be sent to the CDC (?) At the same time she stated I had H1N1 and a kidney infection. I asked if I would get the results and she basically said no. I went to my own GP to follow up on our yearly physical and asked him what they had sent him and he had received nothing but he would request them.As I have another appointment next month my Dr office phoned and said they had them . Of course you have to go there in person.
I am curious and want to know. I was also surprised by the kidney infection (no symptons) and my nurse neighbor questioned how they knew so fast. I was in and out of there in 4 hours which is amazing.
I did not have any flu shots . I was also pretty much recovered after just over two weeks.


I never knew the strain. I didn't get swabbed because by the time I went to the hospital it was clearly pneumonia. My wife and baby were swabbed but we never thought to ask.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: EveStreet
a reply to: Rezlooper

Glad you're doing better and were able to find that pre-existing condition as a result and now are able to treat it.

Even if Prince died of something else, it is not inconceivable to me that someone would actually die from the flu. I have seriously never feared for my life as much as when I had the flu back in 2013. One minute I was fine and the next I knew something was seriously wrong and I began having the chills with a fever of 103. I had almost everything you could imagine over the next MONTH. Fever, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, sore throat, headache, congestion, coughing, fatigue, aches & PINK EYE on top of it all!

I had to sleep sitting up for a week or more so I wouldn't drown in my own fluids. By the time I knew what was happening I was too sick to even think of leaving the house to go to the Dr. Luckily (I guess) I was unemployed at the time because I couldn't have gone to work for those weeks at all. Had no appetite - just shuffled from bed to bathroom to recliner and back. I watched a lot of Three's Company reruns and HGTV in the wasteland of round the clock TV. The only upside was that I lost 25-30 lbs. during that time. Just after I got better for two weeks - I relapsed and it was back for two more, only not quite as bad as the first time.

After getting better I was curious as to what sort of flu has all of those symptoms and swine flu was the only one that had all of them and the pink eye so maybe that's what got me. I seriously haven't felt the same since. Always dead tired all of the time. And I gained back those 30 lbs and more. Sigh.

Well that's my flu story and thanks for sharing yours.


Man, that definitely sounds like a horrible strain that wouldn't let go. Sorry to hear that you still feel some affects.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Rezlooper
Mneither. It's not on any mainstream news source so I doubt this is true.


Sure.


Prince received drug overdose treatment six days before his death during his plane’s emergency landing in rural Illinois, according to a report. New York Daily News



Prince was reportedly treated for a drug overdose six days before his death on Thursday, according to TMZ.

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According to the TMZ report, doctors gave Prince a “safe shot”... MSN .com



I will wait for the autopsy, but why can't both of these rumors be true? If prince was battling the flu, and self-medicating, I would imagine that he may have over-dosed on his ovc meds. To me, this would make more sense.
edit on 4 22 2016 by CynConcepts because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts
I will wait for the autopsy, but why can't both of these rumors be true? If prince was battling the flu, and self-medicating, I would imagine that he may have over-dosed on his ovc meds. To me, this would make more sense.


You do not take opioids for the flu and you do not get a save shot for overdosing on flu medication.




edit on 22-4-2016 by AugustusMasonicus because: never go in against a Sicilian with death is on the line



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Opioids? Like OxyContin? Something that alleviates muscle aches and pains? Like when you need to perform on stage and your body is wracked by muscle aches and pain which is definitely a major flu symptom?

edit on 4 22 2016 by CynConcepts because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Both of these sources are sensationalist rags that cut corners, go with whatever sources they can find whether right or wrong just to be the first to break a story. I wouldn't take any thing reported from these two very seriously until some of the real main stream news sources start reporting it and so far CBS, ABC, Fox or any other have even mentioned the word drugs.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts
Opioids? Like OxyContin? Something that alleviates muscle aches and pains? Like when you need to perform on stage and your body is wracked by muscle aches and pain?


Try going to the doctor and asking for an Oxy script because you have the flu. Let us know how that works.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Opioids? Like OxyContin? Something that alleviates muscle aches and pains? Like when you need to perform on stage and your body is wracked by muscle aches and pain which is definitely a major flu symptom?


OK. Let's put it slightly differently. No physician would PRESCRIBE Opioids for the flu. That make a little more sense?



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: CynConcepts
Opioids? Like OxyContin? Something that alleviates muscle aches and pains? Like when you need to perform on stage and your body is wracked by muscle aches and pain?


Try going to the doctor and asking for an Oxy script because you have the flu. Let us know how that works.


He's Prince. Probably has a private doctor who understands that he has to perform on stage, and be willing to do whatever Prince asks.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
I am not saying that a doctor prescribed an opioid to him for the flu. Sheesh, I have never needed to take all of any pain relievers prescribed. I am stating that he easily could have self-medicated himself for his individual symptom relief!



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper
...so far CBS, ABC, Fox or any other have even mentioned the word drugs.


CBS:


"People close to Prince tell me he struggled with painkillers due to his hip and ankle issues," Frazier said..


FOX:


WHAT KILLED PRINCE?
Autopsy set amid reports of drug-related death...



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: CynConcepts

Considering he had past drug addiction issues and required a save shot when his private jet was diverted the likely answer is that he overdosed on drugs.



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