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The Scientist and The Philosopher

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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 12:34 AM
a reply to: Woodcarver

A issue at point is that Microbes at some point in history and prior to discovery, in perspective and in introspection, could then be related to as a, "Straw Man" despite the fact it was not.

Very interesting thread.

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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 01:14 AM
a reply to: Arbitrageur

the elephant is always that damned tool not in the place you meant to put it or did so you wouldnt forget where next time and persitence is justa memory written on ones brow of where the hell is that metaphorical elephant now?

posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 02:09 AM
a reply to: Kashai

... = infinity

countable infinity:
1, 2, 3, 4, ...

uncountable infinity:
00000000000000 ... 1

What determined each set as countable or uncountable is where they were determined infinite. Had the countable set been determined infinite before 1 was determined, it would be the same set as uncountable, thus the answer begins and ends with the concept, as even 'to measure' must be measured out ...

We need will, measure of will, and solution of measure of will, like so: (think sets within sets)

[[[ concepts ] conception of ] infinite [ conception of [ concepts]]]

[[[ solutions ] measurements of ] functions [ measurements of [ solutions]]]

[[[ bodies] translations of ] will [ translations of [bodies]]]
[[[ body ] soul ] spirit [ soul [ body]]]
[[[ son ] father ] holy spirit [ father [ son]]]

[[[quanta] quantizations of ] spacetime [quantizations of [quanta]]]

Notice the direction of the brackets (the beginning and the end are the image of what has been determined). The solution is within the measurement and both the measurement and solution are within infinity and vice versa. Like how a calculator has a pseudo-infinite number and function set within it that can be measured to produce a solution, where the solution is more the product of the measurement than it is the product of the infinite number set. (1+1 measures infinity and produces 2. So 2 is more the image of the measurement than it is the image of infinity. The measurement purposes, or determines, infinity.)

I think we should look at these words as being equal: measured, translated, quantized, conceived, and determined.

[[[will [ translations of [bodies]]]

[[[My will [was to translate [these words.]]] These words are the translation of my will.

Translation must determine to produce a solution.
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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 02:41 AM
a reply to: Bleeeeep

"Translation must determine to produce a solution."

I agree

posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 02:59 AM
a reply to: Kashai

It is the answer to Zeno's paradox too, I think.

There has to be a force of determination, or translation, that quantifies physicality.
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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 03:05 AM
um 1s and 0s do have a language thanks to the Myan civilization computers have a language, 1,2,3, whatever are variables as well, just representations of a concept already predefined, all of it is recombinations with no concrete other than what people affirm as a base with eachother as a standard base reality, beyond the name and form or sounds light heat and vibration of contact thats all it is contact, like a telegraph sending waves across fields of energy to be agreed on with interpretations and others to agree on or disagree on by groups.

Knowledge and understanding when held becomes a stagnant cup over time, it festers and overs no growth except to bactera also harnessing the same life energy and produces waves of its own, importance or not is also that accepted or agreed on concept among individual life forms, embrace the microbe as precious and no different and it embraces you back, embrace all life the same and precious and the earth restores in thanks, respect the earth for such restoration and the solar system smiles, as the sun winks on as the other stars in the distance, no self no other no beginning and no end, thus gone yet nowhere to go and the all that is and is not, is a gift. The sad part is all the needless suffering that fails to recognize how fleeting and precious all of this is by saying someting else has more value when it is all the same in neutrality throughout all time.

Reality graspings are sadly just delusions and dreams a universe that is just a mirror within a mirror reflecting an infinite nature that flows onward upward downward and all aroundward. Please know grasping within ones own bubble that can pop at anytime can bring more suffering when equanimity is not embraced... and please have compassion for those still struggling by holding onto chains and locked behind bars of the conceptual. Life happens things revolve things rotate, and life goes on all around each and every moment aware of it in all its splendor or not.

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