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God Did It! The rest is post modern chatter!

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posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Its just that truth has many meanings. Hence you will not see it in a scientific paper. Just because I found that a certain reaction was most likely behaving in a manner with an SN1 mechanism (vs an SN2), it does not mean that it is so, as Kinetics is way more fickle than that
Just as an example.

While I may proudly pull the ogam staves from my crane bag at ritual, interpret them as the "shinning ones are happy with the offering, lets go feast", and who is to argue if I don't get struck down? I mean when is the last time a god smote someone?




posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: edmc^2

The "recorded in your book" is a metaphor for gods book. That is the record he keeps for all living things being born and dieing.


Sure if that's what it means but look closer - "before any of them ever began".

To me this is the DNA code being written before the embryo was even being constructed.

That is, the instructions in the DNA are being coded (written) to eventually become a human being.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

If God was to smite anyone, I'm sure I'd be on the list lol.

The only problem I have with believing in God ( s ) is there's no proof. A book isn't always proof.

My wife even calls for God a few times a week (hehehe), but he never shows up.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: edmc^2

Can you prove this? OR is it a belief? I ask this as if you can prove it, we can all go home and call it a good game, otherwise, bring on some substitutes and keep going



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: edmc^2

But that's not what it says. It doesn't even come close to saying DNA or coding.

It's a metaphor and open for interpretation. It being DNA and whatnot is your interpretation. It doesn't make it more correct than the next guys interpretation.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

I was talking Gods here, screw just one
I've blasphemed (according to monotheists) enough in my many years and yet I've not been smote. Mind I follow what in essence is a mystery religion, and perhaps it is all a good old joke, and the Gods are deadpanning us


But back to what I was saying, subjective terms like "truth" are unhelpful. Now constants, those are helpful. Speed of light in a vaccuum, Donald Trumps "hair", etc they let you know what is going on.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

I think everyone would probably get smote, one way or another.

God/Gods/Spaghetti Monster. Same difference to an atheist lol.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Me too. I even dared him to smite me. I guess I'm more powerful than god lol.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Strangely most of your Indo-European deities were too busy messing with each other to smite humans, well except those like Zeus who were being sexual predators



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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Heh

I don't have faith... I am a believer...

That is truth...

How could the faithless perceive the difference and presume in ignorance to comprehend it?

My doubts have fled from me...
My faith has been transformed to realization...
I find no fault in Christ...

Your own doubts or lack of understanding...
even your own contempt portrayed as indifference and indignation indeed not even your hatred for me as a believer can rob me of my truth...

The funny thing about the proof of God is I can only ever be proven right that God exists...
If there is no God nobody would ever know the difference...

The bible is the first book I ever read in grade 2 from cover to cover...
Then I read the hobbit and forgot about reading the bible for awhile as the Lord of the Rings and many others followed...
But when I had hardships or questions I found results from the bible...
It was too easy...
I did not have to search everywhere it was mystical as the answers were found pertinent to my questions as if by a guiding hand opening it to that which I sought...
I believe because God has revealed himself to me because I sought him out earnestly...

I don't expect you to understand this truth...

But I do wish you can find truth for yourself...

I do not agree with everything Noinden says...
but he is very close to understanding the truth of this matter of truth...



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

How condescendingly gracious of you neighbor. I'd say your belief is a matter of faith, thus you have faith. But we've done that dance.

So I am glad your God makes you happy.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

I was not being condescending...
I know you have your own faith...
But I would not agree you truly believe it...
There is a difference...
The statement you made was rather condescending
and petty...
This is the truth...
edit on 27-4-2016 by 5StarOracle because: Word



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: edmc^2

Can you prove this? OR is it a belief? I ask this as if you can prove it, we can all go home and call it a good game, otherwise, bring on some substitutes and keep going


Sure.

Here are the rest of the verses of that same chapter:




You created every part of me;
you put me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because you are to be feared;
all you do is strange and wonderful.
I know it with all my heart.
15 When my bones were being formed,
carefully put together in my mother's womb,
when I was growing there in secret,
you knew that I was there—
16 you saw me before I was born.
The days allotted to me
had all been recorded in your book,
before any of them ever began.


Contrary to what TerryDon79 said, these verses is about the construction and recording (coding) of the human body. It had nothing to do with the recording of all birth and death.




edit on 27-4-2016 by edmc^2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: edmc^2

Ahh so you have the notes the author made? Perhaps some earlier things that led to this verse, but were not included in the final form?

So Psalm 139:13-16?

Yeah no, that is not proof. That is quoting scripture. That can satisfy your gnosis, a shared one I will agree, but an unprovable one.


So do you understand what constitutes proof? I will give you a hint, it can't come from an overly edited, translated through many languages, book, known as the bible.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

Neigbhbour, saying I am "very close to understanding the truth of this matter of truth" implies you are there already. Given our different faiths, I kind of doubt that we have the same understandings.

No it was condescension, and my reply was too. If you did not mean it to be that way, look at how you phrase something next time.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: edmc^2

Can you prove this? OR is it a belief? I ask this as if you can prove it, we can all go home and call it a good game, otherwise, bring on some substitutes and keep going


Sure.

Here are the rest of the verses of that same chapter:




You created every part of me;
you put me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because you are to be feared;
all you do is strange and wonderful.
I know it with all my heart.
15 When my bones were being formed,
carefully put together in my mother's womb,
when I was growing there in secret,
you knew that I was there—
16 you saw me before I was born.
The days allotted to me
had all been recorded in your book,
before any of them ever began.


Contrary to what TerryDon79 said, these verses is about the construction and recording (coding) of the human body. It had nothing to do with the recording of all birth and death.





The verses you shared are a terrible translation of genetics, if that's actually what they are.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: edmc^2

Ahh so you have the notes the author made? Perhaps some earlier things that led to this verse, but were not included in the final form?

So Psalm 139:13-16?

Yeah no, that is not proof. That is quoting scripture. That can satisfy your gnosis, a shared one I will agree, but an unprovable one.


So do you understand what constitutes proof? I will give you a hint, it can't come from an overly edited, translated through many languages, book, known as the bible.


Now you're changing the game.

What then do you think (know) about these verses?

"You created every part of me;
you put me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because you are to be feared;
all you do is strange and wonderful.
I know it with all my heart.
15 When my bones were being formed,
carefully put together in my mother's womb,
when I was growing there in secret,
you knew that I was there—
16 you saw me before I was born.
The days allotted to me
had all been recorded in your book,
before any of them ever began. "

What was the writer talking about?

If not the recording and construction of the human body. Please do tell.

Furthermore - what's being " recorded in your book, before any of them ever began."?

Please do tell.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

I was referring to your earlier comment on truth...
Perhaps comprehension is lacking...
Didn't think I would have to quote to reference what you said...
I feel you are mistaken...
edit on 27-4-2016 by 5StarOracle because: Word



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: edmc^2

Can you prove this? OR is it a belief? I ask this as if you can prove it, we can all go home and call it a good game, otherwise, bring on some substitutes and keep going


Sure.

Here are the rest of the verses of that same chapter:




You created every part of me;
you put me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because you are to be feared;
all you do is strange and wonderful.
I know it with all my heart.
15 When my bones were being formed,
carefully put together in my mother's womb,
when I was growing there in secret,
you knew that I was there—
16 you saw me before I was born.
The days allotted to me
had all been recorded in your book,
before any of them ever began.


Contrary to what TerryDon79 said, these verses is about the construction and recording (coding) of the human body. It had nothing to do with the recording of all birth and death.




The verses you shared are a terrible translation of genetics, if that's actually what they are.


Poetry in motion my friend.



posted on Apr, 27 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

I am aware of what post you were referring too. I found your reply condescending. LIke truth that would be a subjective thing.




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