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Arguably The Most Important Documentary In The History Of Medicine Was Just Released

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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Drocms
I work in pharmacy and I have to tell you, if the pharmaceutical companies come up with a chemo drug that has a 2 precent better outcome than next leading chemo drug they jump on it. That's why people who work in the medical field generally do not buy the "they have the cure" theory. Do you realize how much a cure would go for? Look up Harvoni. In 90 precent+ of hepatitis c patients it cures the disease. Over a course of three treatments they are cured, wanna guess how much it costs? It costs my pharmacy over 80 thousand dollars to buy the three bottles consisting of the entire treatment. You know what is even crazier? Insurance companies almost never reject it because it is cheaper over the long run (less hospitalizations). Trust me, if they had a cure it would be bottled and accessible to you... At a cost


If they found a cure, the entire world would be forever altered, and changed in a way many could not believe.
Of course it would.


This will be allowed VERY slowly, and maybe never, because we wouldn't want humans being capable of everything now would we ???
Says who? There's already plenty of scientific research and results out there for plenty of diseases and illnesses that were found and put out there very quickly.




posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 02:24 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Elementalist

I just told my wife what you said. She has cancer.

I can't tell you what she said as its against t&c.

Cancer is the replication of bad cells. Breathing and "happy thoughts" do diddly to DNA.



Well, it must be nice to see you think you know what is going on with "cancer".
Its got nothing to do with "what I think is going on". It's called researching the available data.


As we have all watched countless people die and suffer immeasurably, I guess you are right and we should believe everything is on the correct path and things are getting better because "science".
Science isn't linear. There is no "right or wrong path" to follow.


Sarcasm on) It is always best to use the extreme emotion of a sufferer to point out what "truth" is, in no way whatsoever is it affecting them or causing them to think one way or another. (Sarcasm off
Truth is truth and it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

Why not take the same reactions towards your cancer doctors, oh wait, they will have you removed from the premises and laugh you out of the hospital.We don't have "cancer doctors". We have specialists. Between the family there is various specialists, doctors and hospitals they are visited. They aren't set in their ways either. They're open to new ideas and discussions about possible cures. Just like my wife is speaking to her specialist about Mito-(DCA).



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 08:17 AM
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1. Cancer is not one disease, it is many different diseases that are categorized together.

2. Documentary? Really?



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

And all the treatments that others have tried and had success with are all hoaxes I suppose.


WELL PUT.

I have a dear friend who, 25 years or so ago, cured herself of breast cancer by homeopathic supplements alone. Her case was serious. She was cancer free until recently. Now, she's almost done curing herself again.

All the presumed knowing blather on this thread would not impress her in the least. She owes her life to stuff folks on this thread decry as useless or worse. What a bunch of arrogance, imho.

Such a perspective makes it out as though she couldn't possibly still be living due to such supplements . . . or she couldn't possibly be telling the truth because she wasn't part of a double blind study held by the high priests of the Cult of Scientism . . . or she couldn't possibly still be alive simply because it's against their high priestly and haughty dogma. Someone may even try and convince us that she's a figment of my imagination. LOL.

She was a counseling client 35+ years ago. Her husband ran off with her sister. She had plenty of turmoil in her life. And, the last 5-10 years, her kids have had a list of traumas adding further stress. So, her body was likely set-up for further complications of some kind. Thankfully, she's almost totally beat the odds AGAIN.

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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Haven't read the study but I thought you might find it interesting.
drsircus.com...


I find it very gratifying to have written and published Sodium Bicarbonate – Rich Man’s Poor Man’s Cancer Treatment. It is the only complete medical review on the subject. I hope it is clear to everyone, after reading the research below from the mainstream of medical science, the importance of becoming familiar with bicarbonate medicine and what it can do for cancer, kidney and diabetic patients as well as for those seeking relief from the worst symptoms of the flu.

“The results of this study suggest that tumor cells do, indeed, perform niche engineering by creating an acidic environment that is non-toxic to the malignant cells but, through its negative effects on normal cells and tissue, promotes local invasion.”



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Dr Sircus is a fraud. He got his "idea" from an Italian doctor who was charged with fraud and murder. The same Dr Sircus believes cancer is a fungus. CANCER IS NOT A FUNGUS.

There have been scientific studies of bicarbonate soda. All results have found that it can't cure cancer. However, it has been found to work, in conjunction with another drug, to help alleviate pain.

ETA: If you really want to see how much of a fraud Dr Sircus is, go check out his shop. He has about a dozen books all claiming to cure cancer. They all use different ingredients. Some are actually deadly in the doses he recommends.
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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

He didn't do the study don't let your anger stop you from looking thoroughly, I know it may be hard. I hate the lies and bull crap too.
cancerres.aacrjournals.org...
Bicarbonate Increases Tumor pH and Inhibits Spontaneous Metastases
Ian F. Robey1, Brenda K. Baggett1, Nathaniel D. Kirkpatrick1, Denise J. Roe1, Julie Dosescu2, Bonnie F. Sloane2, Arig Ibrahim Hashim3, David L. Morse3, Natarajan Raghunand1, Robert A. Gatenby3, and Robert J. Gillies3
+ Author Affiliations

1Arizona Cancer Center, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona; 2Department of Pharmacology, Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan; and 3H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center and Research Institute, Tampa, Florida
Requests for reprints:
Robert J. Gillies, H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center, SRB-2, 12302 Magnolia Drive, Tampa, FL 33612. Phone: 813-725-8355; Fax: 813-979-7265; E-mail: Robert.Gillies@moffitt.org.
Abstract

The external pH of solid tumors is acidic as a consequence of increased metabolism of glucose and poor perfusion. Acid pH has been shown to stimulate tumor cell invasion and metastasis in vitro and in cells before tail vein injection in vivo.



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

That study was done in 2008 (published in 2009) and done with cells in Petri dishes and breast cancer cells in mice.

There have been studies done with humans and it has been found that bicarbonate soda does not cure cancer. The dosage needed would cause serious problems and be very likely fatal.

There was, as I've stated, a study done with it and dimethyl sulfoxide as a pain med. Link



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

The studies including that one used mice also.
2015
Further,
combining bicarbonate therapy with anti-CTLA-4, anti-PD1 or adoptive T cell transfer improved
antitumor responses in multiple models, including cures in some subjects.
cancerres.aacrjournals.org...

www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com...

Recent studies suggests that baking soda neutralizes blood-acidity in patients who are already suffering from cancer.

A Italian study from 2014 suggests baking soda showed promise as a means of controlling tumor growth and the spread of cancer cells to other organs.2

And research from the Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Florida, indicates the alkalizing effect on pH of baking soda could play an important role in slowing cancer cell activity.3

The results of these studies expanded on a successful 2009 study by the University of Arizona Cancer Center. Scientists there took metastatic breast cancer cells and injected them into the mammary fat pads of mice. One group of mice got water with baking soda. The other group didn’t.

The cancer spread significantly less in the group of mice with the water and baking soda. And their survival rate was much higher.4

My colleague, Dr. Mark Rosenberg, MD, noted recently at a medical conference we attended:
www.alsearsmd.com...



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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Hi, I have a little anecdote that is slightly off-topic, but i feel it is merited. Anyway, about 10 years ago I knew a man named Dr. Reed(forget his first name, i was 12). He was always working and i never saw him much, and my dad later told me this story, I never heard it from Dr. Reed himself. Said Dr. was researching a cure for ALS and discovered that it was caused by a certain type of fungus. He came up with his own cure and everything, and went to Vanderbilt University to present it.(or whatever the term is). They would hear none of it and basically just told him to STFU and go away. I remember being severely confused as to why they sent him away, but now that I have woken up it just saddens me. Anyway, i thought this was relevant.



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

And from the article you just linked to...


Unfortunately, baking soda won’t prevent cancer, and neither will an alkaline diet.

And...

While cancer does thrive in acidic environments, it develops and grows perfectly well in the normal, human alkaline environment.

And...

But acidic foods don’t cause cancer and baking soda won’t prevent it.



But I do agree, there are some benefits from baking soda. It just doesn't cure cancer.

ETA: The idea of ALL cancers being a fungus, therefore being treated by alkaline products, comes from Tullio Simoncini. He is responsible for multiple deaths and the reduction in effectiveness of cancer treatments. Dr Sircus follows Tullio Simoncinis teachings, it's where he got his ideas from and it's wrong.
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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: Sourcery

And there are articles stating that there is evidence for fungal infections in cerebrospinal fluid and brain tissue from patients with ALS. Here's one

But I don't know much about ALS to be perfectly honest, so I wouldn't even like to guess.



posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy


The external pH of solid tumors is acidic as a consequence of increased metabolism of glucose and poor perfusion.

I don't know from where you take your information, but there is something I can tell you for sure is that tumors have ALWAYS EXCELLENT PERFUSION, due to angiogenesis.



it is also a fundamental step in the transition of tumors from a benign state to a malignant one, leading to the use of angiogenesis inhibitors in the treatment of cancer. The essential role of angiogenesis in tumor growth was first proposed in 1971 by Judah Folkman, who described tumors as "hot and bloody."


You are basing your logic on completely false informations!



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 02:09 AM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: namelesss

One of my good friends, a 7th Day Adventist . . . has cured herself twice--many years apart . . . from 2 different bouts with cancer--strictly by supplements/homeopathic means.

There is so much wrong with that statement...
I am assuming that a 7th day Adventist is a Xtian?
In which case, no Xtian would EVER take the credit for their 'cure'!
Ever!
Your claim that she 'cured herself' is a matter of 'belief', as THERE IS NO EVIDENCE!
And the 'evidence' is that homeopathic 'stuff' is anything other than placebo is equally mountainous!
Then there are the 'supplements', which are predominately the same thing as 'homeopathetic'...; placebo.

What is a 'miracle' from one Perspective, is just a Bic lighter, from another.



Sad about your Mom.

It was. Thanks.
I think one of the 'saddest parts' was all the 'hope'; running all over, from Mexico to Canada to hunt down and try every 'magic cure'.
Imagine, not only to die, but to die an oldster, in disappointment (illusions still bursting)!



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 06:29 AM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: NautPsycho

You really REALLY need to read this.

It explains about the bodies ph and acidosis/alkalosis.

What you're suggesting is
1, impossible. As I've said numerous times, your body self regulates ph between 7.35 and 7.45.
2, if you could raise the alkalinity of your body you would cause some serious damage and it would be because something was already wrong with you.


Actually, your own source article contradicts you. Yes, the human body is designed to "self regulate" every single part of the anatomy at the cellular level and the physiology of the body describes how those processes work.

But, as is clearly stated in your source material several times, certain things can disrupt homeostasis at that cellular level and though the body tries to regulate itself, the imbalance is too great and intervention is needed to put things right again.

Typically this happens with blood pH when there is an imbalance in acidity due to a disease process, like a virus...your body cannot reach homeostasis so you become symptomatic and start feeling sick. You can treat the symptoms, but until the virus runs its course, the acid imbalance remains. Influenza is one example...it is widely believed that such imbalances cause several of the nastiest symptoms associated with it. Actually, I believe your source refers to it by name as an "acid based" illness.

However, people can walk around with a chronically imbalanced pH and never realize it until one day they become sick with something unrelated and subsequent blood tests reveal it. This is quite common. And there are studies that strongly suggest it could be a factor in many chronic disorders, including diabetes and renal disease.

But more germane to your point is that blood pH most certainly can be altered chemically, and the body will not be able to regulate it any more than it can while under the onslaught of a virus. And this state of imbalance can be maintained for quite some time, without any lasting effects.

The Atkins diet is an example of this. By eliminating carbs from your diet and consuming only protein, you cause your body to enter a significant state of ketoacidosis. Your body is being starved of sugars and has to work much harder to break down the overload of protein, which puts it in an acid imbalance and is the catalyst for rapid weight loss.

The diet even instructs people to test their urine frequently with test strips to ensure that their urine ketone level stays very high so that their bodies will respond by shedding pounds. Of course, those pounds are muscle tissue and water, and Dr. Atkins was well aware of this, so the total sugar starvation is only intended for the first two weeks. But the longer you keep maintaining that state of acidosis, the more weight you'll lose...and he wasn't shy about mentioning that numerous times in his book either, even though he knew it was medically unsound and potentially dangerous, hence the controversy over the methods of his diet plan.

I'm not ready to say that baking soda cures anything except for indigestion and bad breath. But there are plenty of recent studies out there that show promise in the treatment of certain diseases by introducing an alkaline state, and they were not conducted by the people you mentioned.

It is not impossible at all to adjust the body's pH long term, and doing so in a controlled clinical environment would be no more dangerous than giving a patient chemotherapy or radiation. It's the people out there trying to self-treat, practicing medicine on themselves and their family members without a medical license that would be at any risk of killing themselves with sodium bicarb. The science is a tad more complex than just picking up a box of Arm&Hammer at the store and expecting it to perform a miracle.

My granny died a horrible death from metastatic breast cancer. She thought she beat it the first time. But it came back, in her bones, and by the time they found it, there was nothing they could do. She was 62. She didn't want to die. And if she were alive today and there was the slightest possibility that sodium bicarb could save her precious life, I'd be waiting with her at the front door of whatever medical institution there was who were willing to give it a try. No hesitation.

I myself have SLE. It has robbed me of my hearing and is now working on my sight, too. It has permanently damaged my kidneys and left scar tissue on my lungs. It has damaged the nerves that tell my legs when to move so I fall, often and hard. It's not a cancer, and I am grateful for that. But it is merciless, and it will kill me...almost has, more times than I can count on both hands.

But I gave up on medicine a long time ago. The drugs they gave me to fight this disease made me sicker than the lupus itself. Pretty soon, I had acid reflux and reactive airway disease, and a host of other issues...every single one of them caused by the medicine that was supposed to be helping me. When I finally drew the line, I was taking more than twenty pills a day and using three inhalers. Enough. I threw it all in the trash and went looking for alternate solutions. That was in 2013.

Today, I take no medicine other than Zyrtec for allergies, and I have been in remission for more than a year. I am a medical professional and have the greatest respect for physicians. I would have laughed at the idea that I'd be fighting SLE with nothing more than apple cider vinegar and daily oil pulling with raw coconut oil. But here I am.

The thing about medical science that doesn't get mentioned much is that it has historically been largely trial and error. We don't really realize how many common drugs out there started off as a treatment for one thing, utterly failed at the task in clinical trials, and then were found to be either a component of or the treatment itself for something completely unrelated. How many of these treatments and cures were discovered through someone else's mistake. There are a lot. Because medicine is not, has never been, and never will be an exact science.

I'm not telling you this to try and sway your beliefs...you seem quite certain in them. But hopefully you'll at least consider looking past the mistakes of these doctors you say are frauds and murderers, because if the idea had no merit, further studies would not have gone forward. Funding would not have been granted if it was proven to be just some fraudulent claim, without any sound science to support it.

Blessed Be.

-Tiger
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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: SeaWorthy

And from the article you just linked to...


Unfortunately, baking soda won’t prevent cancer, and neither will an alkaline diet.

And...

While cancer does thrive in acidic environments, it develops and grows perfectly well in the normal, human alkaline environment.

And...

But acidic foods don’t cause cancer and baking soda won’t prevent it.


But I do agree, there are some benefits from baking soda. It just doesn't cure cancer.

ETA: The idea of ALL cancers being a fungus, therefore being treated by alkaline products, comes from Tullio Simoncini. He is responsible for multiple deaths and the reduction in effectiveness of cancer treatments. Dr Sircus follows Tullio Simoncinis teachings, it's where he got his ideas from and it's wrong.


The Dr who said those things gives all of his patients soda. What it comes down to with the ones who make it is they try everything they can if it doesn't hurt. My asian friend succeeded with a cancer that was incurable and that was diet alone. Something many Japanese had used before her.

I read (another anecdotal) a guy who convinced his Dr to inject his tumor with baking soda he also succeeded against cancer.
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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 11:04 AM
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I don't know from where you take your information


I always show where and the quotes come from them if not I say so.



You are basing your logic on completely false informations!

These are published studies I haven't seen your?
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posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

never say never my friend.. i thought there was pure cannabis oil, blood electrification & colloidal silver- dr. beck's work.. orgone body chambers? haha, i'm an optimist i guess



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: AwakenYaMind
a reply to: JoshuaCox

never say never my friend.. i thought there was pure cannabis oil, blood electrification & colloidal silver- dr. beck's work.. orgone body chambers? haha, i'm an optimist i guess





From what I learned helping my mother through melinoma, the best hope we have of a cure, is DNA modification. They can teach your DNA to recognize and attack your specific type of cancer...

Still really early stages tho.



posted on Apr, 22 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

right on.. sorry about your mother..

it probly sounds new age, but dna activation could work too.. hard to do in this 3D matrix but apparently if we raise our vibrations high enough, the lower vibrational viruses and such would cease to harm us.. just a nonlinear thought




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