a reply to: username74
maybe rickymouse will catch up with this, as a stone mason, im a bench worker/carpenter with an engineering background and i live in a european
mountain range (so i have to work with granite too, but on a more basic level)
now i want to placate the academics or white collars among us. this is not some kind of attack on them, i just want to point out that alot of theories
about how the larger practical task were achieved are created by people who largely have litte or no practical experience in attempting large
practical tasks, and ironically one of the biggest challenges of starting and finishing a large practical tasks is the planning and mindset (and i
suspect i will come to regret my choice of words)
so bear that in mind
ok and here i will paste in herodotus because its probably the first coherent account of an outsider
i should point out that this shouldnt be regarded as a piece of primary evidence about the pyramids, its what some bloke who was his guide and he told
what he thought he knew (or at least what he saw fit to tell this greek bloke)
so problem 1
the old dolerite maul or pounding blocks
working granite with copper and bronze
ok number 2 first it easier
surely they would have bought in some iron or maybe if there was some rough steel tools. this stuff was knocking about in anatolia 4000 years ago.
surely you wouldnt attempt to work with granite on that scale to that level with copper and bronze, and yes, i ve seen the studies. thats no kind of
field test for any kind of equipment in an industrious working enviroment. fine on other rocks. not on granite.
and you were never going to find any lying aroud because of value and novelty. i still have my greatgrandfathers leather tools. what the hell for?
why can i only find examples of the bizarre finish of this dolerite pounder marks in egypt and in the andes. the type around the obelisk.
why do they think that trench around was made with pounders? because of the marks?
why would you use a pounder to dig? a long chisel and a pounder, maybe.
theres no leverage to be had on your haunches and theres no room bla blah
i also see an absence of chisel marks on the base but then chisel marks to break it free, maybe holes for wedges. fat chance! i know they say you can
move anything with wedges, and thats basically true but it has to be a free object, not a considerable portion of earth still attached to a spree and
having a supposed mass of a thousand plus tonnes
have you any real working concept of how massive that is? the wedges would have to take the weight of the obelisk before they start to exert pressure.
if you use wedges to take something of the quarry wall the mass of the rock is working for you, it wants to go. they are trying to break whats beneath
them and they are working perpendicular to gravity. maybe that was later. also do we know if it wasnt just abandoned initially and the cracks are from
tectonic activity later on?
i digress, the pounders. so the other dolerite quarrys for stone henge . none. theres no mauls anyway, which i assume the same thing
3 so i am not sure if there is an accepted modern idea of how long it was supposed to have taken because 3 months a year for 23 years is just shy of
6 solid years. on radishes and onions eh? i wonder if herodotus had a reference for the guy or just found him when he got off the boat. he says
priests but it sounds to me like he heard it down the pub and maybe just saw them from a distance
i think reading off some of the quantities and looking at some of pertries drawings that its possible there was existant underground or something
already there. its a limestone plateaux, full of caves and aquifers and i would be interested to know the relative datums of the old lake moeris
surface, is that the name? and the plateaux
they may have used an existing cave network and isolated it, to construct the subterreanean sections.