The Millenial Rebellion

I don't think millenials are lazy, or entitled, sjws, or snowflakes. I'm not into division but I'm pretty sure people are confused and that's the kids from the generation after us. Millenials are hardcore.

A lot of us work our asses off, have families, we stay active, we have learned skills and know our business.

We are just poed at the government, tired of working hard just to barely get by, and see through a lot of bs.

Nearly everyone is fed up.

a reply to: onequestion

There are a lot of factors involved. A lot of boomer parents of millennials are struggling to stay employed, help their kids when they can and also have one or more elderly parents they are having to help. Also families are smaller and more isolated, so a lot of times there isnt this big network of family members who can help. And a lot of boomer parents don't know that the job market has really changed because they have been in a job for years and have no experience with the present situation. We dont live in an Ozzie and Harriet scenario anymore where mom and dad can just shell out money to attack any issue, its more like every man for himself and cooperate or get out. That is really where we are now. Its harsh but its reality.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

lol.

I love gleaming examples of ignorant perspectives.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

"2) Start supporting economic policies that endorse small business through lower taxes, investment, and decreased regulation."

Businesses had all those benefits before Reagans great tax shift in the 80's to favor high earners and large corporations.

Let me guess, let's go back and fix the other guy's mess.

I am a Boomer. I fully support Bernie Sanders as he is the only candidate running who is for ALL of us. The Democratic Party has abandoned the working class to favor the professional class instead. The Millennials recognize this and demand representation. Personally, I am embarrassed that my generation has decimated the middle class. I believe it is a step in the right direction to elect Sanders to undo the many wrongs that have been perpetuated over the past 40 years. It's time for real change instead of establishment politics that promise the moon while delivering nothing but a plethora of favored laws and loopholes for Big Money to exploit.

America has gone from a single wage earner that could support a family to a double wage earner that can hardly makes ends meet. This model is not sustainable, particularly since the trend is driven solely by avarice. This song pretty much expresses what is going on today in America... We Can't Make It Here

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: onequestion

What laws did they break?

Please clarify.

You said, "Actually I think punishing crony capitalist is exactly what we need. Jail time and treason."

I asked, "what laws did they break?"

They don't break laws, they buy a politician and eliminate them.

a reply to: onequestion

Go for it! Rebel. Good luck with that!

I'm a millenial too, and I think we are doing it wrong, most of the times we are using a misdirected rage, instead of pulling people into our "cause" we dont give a damn about that.

a reply to: MOMof3

That sounds nice! I am sure I will be having the in-laws moving in at some point. It is nice to have family close if possible.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Bernienomics won't create well paying jobs.

What's your point? Put any name you want in front of nomics and it still won't work. When corruption, the bloated government, pointless wars, and the tax code is addressed maybe things will change.

a reply to: onequestion

The older generations tend to be Trump supporters and that reflects the same populace movement that is making Sanders so popular but the two generations have to completely different ideas on how to change it.

The reason for that o believe is that the older generation was able to experience a more capitalistic and less plutocratic economy and hats what they want to return.

Millenials haven't been around long enough to experience a good economy so their perspective on capitalism is skewed.

Heya. Good morning...

Good thread, S/F, but I want to make a couple of points:

I am the proud mother of two Millennials - one is 27, the other is 25. They took very different routes - the first excelled in a public high school, was always "driven" to do so, and earned a scholarship to a prestigious private university - the other was more anti-authoritarian and headstrong, and opted out of the public school system.

BOTH are successful in what they do - BOTH are very intelligent. BOTH were raised in middle-class, modest life-style homes, with grandparents that were more of the "nice house and nice cars" generation.

The BOOMERS are the parents of the Millennials - don't forget that lots of us were the "hippies" - and we raised our kids to understand "making do", and turning away from uber-materialistic beige-ville suburban "keeping up with the neighbors" stuff. Some Boomers are, indeed, very corporate, materialistic, shallow, and staunchly conservative...

but not all of us.
And plenty of us Boomers are also Sanders supporters. It isn't just the Millennials. Yes, they are their own generation, but not all of them are simply rebelling "against" the way their parents live....lots of them are supporting what their parents have been saying all along.

So - call us hippies, call them hiplets, take away our birthdays, turn us into frogs, stamp "no dessert" on our ID cards, but WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS.

My kids are both very aware - so please give us parents who strove to teach them making do, compassion for others, and avoiding frivolous spending, excessive debt, war -- and also organized religion -- credit for turning out at least a huge percentage of you all.

Hang in there - make the changes - we're behind you all the way!!


Some of these conservatives, I tell ya, "Ain't got the good sense God gave a lemon."

a reply to: Winstonian

I really had to think outside the box on this new life experience. The house has two full baths, but need three. So I bought a state of the art composting toilet to avoid building codes. Built two lofts for an extra bedroom, ideas I got from Tiny Homes.

a reply to: onequestion

Uh, what??? How in the world does anyone equate supporting a 20-year career politician & Washington insider such as Bernie Sanders as "rebelling against the system"? It's utter nonsense.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: onequestion

Uh, what??? How in the world does anyone equate supporting a 20-year career politician & Washington insider such as Bernie Sanders as "rebelling against the system"? It's utter nonsense.

Remember that just because someone is an elected official doesn't mean they are bought and paid for by the establishment. There is a huge difference between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton when talking about insiders or establishment. Cruz would appear to be more anti establishment but his wife works for wall street and Trump would appear to be even more outside but he's friends with Hillary and Bill Clinton and IS a wall street Billionaire. You just need to have an open mind and research the candidates. That's what I do.

Remember "Greed has no boundaries."
Too many spoiled rich from the cold war era ruined this generation. They don't even teach. They hire immigrants to do all the teaching most of the time. What suppose to be a normal family life turned into a lazy life. You got kids who don't even understand the basics such as cooking now a days. The families are not even passing on their traits, they rely on the schools and overworked.

I can't think of anyone in my life who is doing better now than they were 10 years ago. Not a single one.

I could see how stupid the system was very shortly after starting high school and opted out. Haven't paid a dime of income tax to date. Even ten years ago at age 16 I felt pretty strongly that the economy/system whatever you want to call it was bound to fail and I suspected it would do so fairly soon. I chose not to finish high school or look for work though I suppose that could just be the autism I always hated being around people in general.

Still hoping for things get exceptionally bad really quickly instead of just having the # economy slowly fail. Have a nice chuckle at all the people that bought the "Work hard and stay driven, and you'll be happy and successful" BS

originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: onequestion

Uh, what??? How in the world does anyone equate supporting a 20-year career politician & Washington insider such as Bernie Sanders as "rebelling against the system"? It's utter nonsense.

I do see it as rebelling against the system of cultural values.

Most of us in the US grew up with values which emphasized anti-collectivist and pro-individualist values to an extreme.
Narcissism is next to godliness, and there is no socialist party in America. (Or if there is, it had better stay hidden).

Daring to support and say words like "socialism" out loud is a pretty big revolt, in my opinion.

1982 was my birthday so I guess I am lumped in. Started off life rough, still rough, and at 34 I am fairly happy with next to nothing materialistically or financially due to my injuries which I am pending SSI and VA disability. Just got housing through section 8 VA program and if it were not for that I would be camping on the fringes of society with low chances of living well or long.

I had my mother move in with me since she is old and ill. Though she can be abrasive and hard to get along with often times whereas I am super chill and dislike all drama I like to have her around anyways so no shame there.

Starting a family is something I have wanted for a long time but have been too busy surviving to even think about doing. Plus I always figured that unless you had your #e together like having a car, house, fat wallet, and whatever else it is women are looking for these days you are better off sitting it out or striving to at least provide those things.

Strategically that is a smart move but from a reproductive standpoint it sucks to live in a society that has so quickly gone from edge of extinction with decent opportunity to slow planetary environmental suicide for most with bleak prospects for a good future. That being said I am optimistic about life and the future but lets face it our trajectory is not looking so hot as a species unless you are running the Black programs and zipping around in their special secret squirrel space ships.

I am about to just say # the family courts, the minefield that is even engaging with the opposite sex, and the fact that My situation in life is temporarily or permanently retarded and just do what I see most other younger people regardless of age or standing in life doing which is just start a family and deal with the messy stuff as it comes.

The one thing that scares the hell out of me as a 34 year old American guy is having a gal run off with our kids and getting little to no part in my potential kids life which would break my heart. I know a lot of other guys feel the same way about Americas current climate regarding marriage,family, and civil courts and laws.

So like the other millennial guys who missed out on our prime for whatever reasons we get to just sit out the whole staying in the gene pool thing or we lay our heads big and small on the chopping block for our chance at having a family.

Either way MGTOW all the way.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

In my personal experience, in my own family and friends, the Millenials are kids of the X Generation- they are, as expected, closer in opinion with their grandparents, the Boomers. That is a pretty stable pattern you can find through out history- as each generation tries to individuate and be different than their parents, their attitudes swing back and forth, each closer to their grandparents than parents.

Perhaps you had your kids a bit later in life and that made all the difference.
But one of the things that was foreseen by Strauss and Howe long ago was that kids of the X generation will not be in a hurry to grow up because they saw their parents struggle so hard to survive. x'ers working crap jobs, settling for less in a cynical and fatalistic way will not exactly inspire them. Grown up life looks depressing and worthless.

This is exactly what I perceived. Our own kids have expressed that they have respect and gratitude for the way we struggled and suffered to keep them safe and happy, but also feel we sacrificed ourselves too much and want to believe there should be another way of living- and they want to find it.

The Boomers were in a similar situation, with parents that dedicated themselves to providing a secure home and happiness to their kids, and used to living in the shadow of their war hero parents.
What I find differenciates the Millenials in their attitude is that they don't usually have the same condescending attitude towards their parents as the Boomers did for theirs.

They don't snear insults about us, they have sympathy. They aren't so much rebels against their mom and dad, as the system that has abused them.

It's idealistic and unrealistic (this elder X Gen says, naturally!) but I still think- that is the job of young people! To bring some new ideals and hope into each stage of social evolution. There is no way we are going to be comfortable with that anyway.

a reply to: Bluesma

I agree with you totally, and see the same thing.

I didn't have my kids until I was in my early 30s, and they DID watch us struggle to keep up. Their grandparents (my parents) were born in the 30s, and had me in 1958. My brothers were here by 1962....so, we are right on the "cusp" - the in-betweens. Somewhere I saw us called Generation Jones.

It was evident all of their lives that we, their parents, didn't have the same standard of living as they enjoy; we learned that the "American Dream" was, well, dead, the hard way. So I think you are right - they are aware, and see that the traditional "each generation does better than their parents" American way is no longer true.

Honestly I feel bad for them, but at least for my kids, I taught them resilience, making do with what we had, frugal living but not "poor" - just not extravagant.

And we (in this discussion here) haven't even mentioned the differences in awareness of world events that the internet has brought with it.
Plus, 9/11 happened when they were in elementary school - an event that changed the trajectory of American self-perception forever.