The Millenial Rebellion

a reply to: onequestion

I agree with most of the points you made. The real estate market is not in a decline right now. It is in the healthiest position in the last 10ish years. Most millenials do not want to buy , even if they can. More and more people are doing the multi family thing. The 50 year old parents buy a big house and have 3 and sometimes 4 generations living with them. Real estate aside, the millenials are screwed. They are the most brainwashed generation. Completely mind controlled by the constant bombardment from the mainstream media. When your idols are Fetty Wap and Kanye West, you know that the world is going to burn.

a reply to: Winstonian

That is just what we did. We bought a big house and three families will be living in it. One millenial and two sets of seniors. Paid cash for it. And the entire yard, front and back will be garden.

originally posted by: ketsuko
So you rebel against the system by voting for a man who wants to give that same system MORE POWER?!

How is that rebellion? ...
You guys need to study how Germany fell into the third reich. This is that pattern on both sides, but you if you can recognize it on one side, you should be able to see it in yourselves.

1st, none of you or the ones spoken of in the OP as being rebels to the system, are truly awake to what the bible refers to as "the system of things" (see my thread for details and a slightly more polite and polished up version of saying that if anyone takes offense or thinks I'm just being an arrogant know-it-all for pointing out something I feel you deserve to be aware of).

That being said, how can you rebel against something you don't understand because of all the misinformation you've been taught about it along with the wrong attitudes and philosophies that promote ignorance and belief in myths; especially how the system is pushing some people's buttons to become rebellious "goats" rather than the sheep described in the bible as the real rebels to this system of things, while painting a picture that being obedient and sheeplike, is the same as being gullible and a negative connotation is added to it including a negative label, sheeple. Turning light into darkness and darkness into light as per Isaiah 5:20, turning things upside down, now it's bad to be a sheep and good to be a goat, please consider for a moment whether it's coincidence that this is the exact opposite view that the bible is teaching, that book that was forbidden to be translated in an understandable language for the common people and as soon as it was, created protests against those religious teachers that claimed to be representatives of the God of the bible in the form of what we now know as "the reformation" and "protestantism").

You said something about studying "how Germany fell into the third reich" but studying from the wrong sources about that subject won't teach you much about how those who referred to themselves as Christians (I'm mentioning these for your sake, others were doing this as well) could allow themselves to be suckered in to going along with the whole "Heil Hitler!" greeting for example (a start of brainwashing). Notice the baptist teacher's behaviour regarding that greeting in this video (that subject starts around 6:45, then at 14:50 there are more details about this baptist teacher):



And notice how this brainwashing with nationalism and propaganda against anyone trying to warn people with the truth wasn't limited to Germany in this video:



People don't learn about this subject of "the system of things" and its ruler because they have the wrong teachers or take their information from the wrong sources that they view as reliable (in your case self-professed Christian teachers perhaps, if I remember your comments elsewhere correctly). While the ones that are actually teaching something beneficial, are viewed as the brainwashers or false prophets they've been made out to be by the real brainwashers and false prophets which does not require the act of prophesying (who often don't even know what they're doing but just repeating the traditions they've been taught, wrong teachings about the bible most of the times if we're still on the subject of self-professed Christian teachers).

Please pardon the mildly racist title of this video, it's not my choice:



It is important though that you do try to wake up, so use this wake-up call to your full advantage and don't forget to follow the link to my thread if you want to know the real important truths about reality, where we came from, where we're going, who's in control, who's not in control, who's lying or telling lies (inadvertent or otherwise) and who's trying to tell you the truth.

Please don't allow your mind to scream "cult" and run away without giving it any serious consideration (especially what I said above regarding "turning things upside down", the people singing below are not the brainwashers, deceivers or false prophets that they are accused of being, more videos and information about those false accusations about that in my thread but all the arrows of the real ruler of this system of things are pointing in one direction of attack and false propagandistic accusations, i.e. slander and ad hominems to distract away from the logic in their arguments and importance of their message or teachings, that's your first clue).

Romans 12:2:

And stop being molded by this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, so that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

2 Corinthians 4:3,4:

If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination [or "light"] of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

As I've seen you post comments about the bible and theology, you get 1 guess who "the god of this system of things" that "has blinded the minds of the unbelievers" is.

Here are the real rebels against this system of things:

a reply to: whereislogic


That car that skid off the icy road.

--The millennials will rebel. The elder generations have helped them as much as they could; but, simply, things change. The Y and Z generations are a new breed of love. They are furious and fervent and don't know where to vent their anger. But they also are the most compassionate and caring.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: onequestion

If Millenials are not invested in the stock market, don't own homes, and aren't working, then their impact on the economy will be minimal at best.

What I do agree with, is that the sense of disenfranchisement will grow.

It won't be a twitter rebellion, it would be more of a breaking glass/tipping car type of rebellion.

You undercut yourself by saying if they aren't involved in the economy than they won't effect it. And what we know of minimals today, they aren't going to get off of mom's couch to march anywhere.

I do agree with you that there is a disenfranchisement about them. Much like the old hippie gen, except this one is growing into the status quo culture at an incredible rate as a new philosophy of life (best exampled by the PC movement).

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: DBCowboy

Their minimal impact on the economy is what's going to put us into a 100 year long recession.

It will be two generations out before the economy begins to recover.

The entire landscape is going to change because how can a millenial tell their children to go to college when they found out it was just a scam in the first place?

That is correct. It is projected that millennials will only be worth 50% or less than their parents were. They were affected by the corruption in the big corporations that created the 2008 financial crisis, they are affected by corrupt colleges and a corrupt government that are forcing outrageous student loan debt, they are affected by a lack of good quality work (yes, this is true, and yes, millennials got educated that is how they got student loan debt so don't say it is their fault for not pursuing an education).

People don't realize that if millennials don't have money, then they won't be able to be consumers. That affects the economy negatively.

People also don't realize that the millennial children will start off poor instead of middle-class like their parents. What is this going to do? It could very well be a few generations before things get better.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Winstonian

That is just what we did. We bought a big house and three families will be living in it. One millenial and two sets of seniors. Paid cash for it. And the entire yard, front and back will be garden.

This was a super decision! I think a lot more homes will have multiple generations or multiple families living in them.

Millennials are already turning to room-mates or living with their parents to help with financial burdens. And in a lot of cases, this is a prudent choice, based on realistic financial planning, not laziness. I know a few honorable people who are living with their parents or grandparents and work full-time AND have an education but they don't make enough to move out on their own. In other cultures, it is common for multiple generations to live together in the same house.

One of my friends lives with his grandmother and takes care of her because she has dementia, and he also works at his parents' farm earning no pay, and on top of that, is a substitute teacher (working towards being a full-time math or physics teacher). Lucky for him, his future looks somewhat bright because math teachers are in demand. But if being a teacher is like winning the jackpot, what does that say?

He is going to have to manage his grandmother (because his family doesn't have enough money to pay for a nursing home) and continue working on his parents' farm for no pay, so this could negatively impact his ability to teach full time.

We need a draft!

Lets finnish what we started in the ME and draft thse feckless lazy hippys!

If they refuse to turn up? Shoot there uselss socilaist terrorist arses for cowardness.

a reply to: WeowWix

You're missing or overlooking something important, perhaps these videos can help, it does better complete what I was pointing towards:




Notice in the video below how much misinformation, and how wide the varieties of ideas/philosophies and stories are when people are talking or considering what they are not referring to as "the system of things" (they often prefer the term "the Matrix" or like the OP, just "the system"):



And this video may give you a clue why there is so much confusion and misinformation revolving around this subject:


2 Timothy 2:23-26:

Further, reject foolish and ignorant debates, knowing that they produce fights. 24 For a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle toward all, qualified to teach, showing restraint when wronged, 25 instructing with mildness those not favorably disposed. Perhaps God may give them repentance* leading to an accurate knowledge of truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the Devil, seeing that they have been caught alive by him to do his will.

* = Or “a change of mind.”

Three 16th-Century Truth Seekers—What Did They Find?

“WHAT is truth?” That was the question that Pontius Pilate, Roman governor of Judea in the first century, asked of Jesus, who was on trial before the governor. (John 18:38) Pilate, of course, was not really seeking the truth. If anything, his question revealed his skeptical or cynical attitude. Apparently, to Pilate truth was whatever a person might choose or was taught to believe; there was really no way to determine what is truth. Many today feel the same way.

Ecclesiastes 1:9

...nothing new under the sun.

a reply to: Americanpatriot123

Clearly, your grasp of nuance and complexity is dizzying!

You cut straight through the knot like Alexander himself. If only the people of Gordia would recognise you as their rightful king!

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: DBCowboy

That's because wages are so low and corporate profits are so high that there's nothing left.

Everyone knows that the reason why the economy is drying up is because these big corporations and sucking the money out of communities and going to the next community like a virus just sucking the life out of everything.

And everybody knows it.

Haven't read the entire thread yet so perhaps someone else already said this, but no one is forcing communities to buy from these corporations.. but if people weren't spending their money there, they'd be buying the same products from a smaller business. The difference is that the larger corporations can offer lower prices to people, so that draws people to them, but of course they don't have to buy anything they don't want to. In that case the corp would go out of business. So I wouldn't say the corporations are 'sucking the money out' - its more like 'people are spending their money.' But those same places bring more jobs to a community as well, and offer more products which could cause a previously stagnating community to grow. Corporations really aren't evil. They provide you with services and goods, sometimes at insanely low prices, that you can choose to purchase or ignore, along with jobs for people who were previously unemployed. If you don't like it, pick a useful college major like business and start your own and run it the way you think it should be run. Pay high wages to your employees. It is what I am doing.

originally posted by: Americanpatriot123
We need a draft!

Lets finnish what we started in the ME and draft thse feckless lazy hippys!

If they refuse to turn up? Shoot there uselss socilaist terrorist arses for cowardness.

hahahahaha

No. Please.

I have to much respect and admiration for the institution of the military to subject everyone to that.

a reply to: JustAnObservation

When the corporations don't pay people enough to afford shopping anywhere else, then, people don't have much choice.

a reply to: onequestion

No, we hear you, but we think you don't understand what it is you are asking for.

Look. we see a problem too, but we don't understand why you think the more of the same will fix the problem because that IS what you are asking for. Just because Bernie tells you he is an outsider doesn't make it so. The policies he advocates for are the same things we've been doing on steroids. If they aren't working now, they won't work when you make them stronger.

We think that if you want true change, you need to do different things.

a reply to: whereislogic

You make a lot of assumptions. The first being that I haven't spent plenty of time digging up sources of information. Most people in Germany did indeed go along to get along, including many who claimed they Christian faith.

Germany was coming off of one war where the terms of their surrender, among other factors, forced them into severe economic distress. It's called the Weimar Republic. It had the kind of hyperinflation we are seeing in places like Venezuela and Argentina today.

There was generally a combination of loss of national pride and economic hopelessness permeating the country. It sounds, familiar if on a lesser scale, to what we have here. It was against this backdrop that the National Socialist German Workers' Party rose to power. It was put together to oppose the pull of the communist party which was also active at that time and for the same reasons. Both parties used anti-big business, anti-bourgeois (middle and upper class - they "have it" and are keeping you from "it"), anti-capitalist rhetoric in order to differentiate themselves, Nazis mixed in populism and nationalism and racial elements, mainly against Jews who were economically successful.

So what we have is the same depressed state of the nation and economy, same hopelessness, same rhetoric, same racial language.

a reply to: Americanpatriot123

tell ya what, find the money to pay for your war, without running a bigger deficit or raising taxes and I'll consider you letting you send my kids into a warzone...
on second thought, forget it, one kid has already served, in last the war that was brought on by the lies.
the economy is crap, and much of the problems with it step from the cost of that war! find the danged money for it!

a reply to: ketsuko

so who among those running will do different things?
hillary......ya, isn't that a hysterical idea!
cruz?? ya, the last crusader for christ that was elected turned out so well, that afterwards the conservatives were denying he was conservative.
that only leaves sanders and trump, and it seems to me that a big part of the population is showing their dismay at both parties by supporting these two.
and well, I think if you read up a little bit you will find that onequestion seems to like trump... I could be wrong there, but I think so!!!

but, as far as the economy goes, it doesn't matter who gets elected, because the only answer to the problem is let the danged thing fall!! all we've done trying to save it was turn the pothole into the bottomless pit.

a reply to: darkbake

A major problem is that many Gen X and Boomers can't see the reality of the economy and simply think Millenials are lazy.

So when they don't make enough money they blame be recent college grad and don't let them move back in and they end up homeless or in less than favorable living conditions.

Really sad.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: ketsuko

More false narratives from listening to much right wing conservative nonsense.

We're not looking for equality we want opportunity.

Then millenials need to:

1) Stop supporting progressive policies that punish businesses and a government that tries to pick winners and losers, and
2) Start supporting economic policies that endorse small business through lower taxes, investment, and decreased regulation.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: darkbake

A major problem is that many Gen X and Boomers can't see the reality of the economy and simply think Millenials are lazy.

Not lazy, more like ignorant and naive.

So when they don't make enough money they blame be recent college grad and don't let them move back in and they end up homeless or in less than favorable living conditions.

Really sad.

This part makes no sense. If I don't make enough money I don't blame other people. I re-evaluate my budget and make cuts as needed.